Does anyone have the current numbers for bronzes? Sorry for the mis-information. 

The old tables are here:
http://us.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors

and the new tables are here:
http://us.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/Nonexclusivity

This would matter to me if I ever sold anything on Fotolia other than xs and sub.  I will probably be removing my port now, I was borderline before, and I am not impressed.

Does anyone know when this becomes policy?

Thanks

^^ That's about what I came up with, as well.

They did not mention subscriptions, did they? I would say this again means that while credits go up, subscription stays the same making it more appealing.

Yep, that's exactly right, just like DT. (It is mentioned somewhere specifically that footage & subscription prices remain unchanged.)

It seems like DT & FT both want to go the same model as SS. Mainly a sub site with a few pay-per-download sales thrown in now and again. Even IS is getting into the act, except they are doing it via other sites (photos.com, and whatever the new getty sub site will be called).

I am not at all happy about this.  For the second year in a row Fotolia has cut our commissions.  That makes it a TREND with them, not an isolated incident.

Although I still get a fair number of L - XXL sales there,  buyers now have the option to buy the sub package that includes XL images.   I don't see this doing anything but pushing more buyers into subscriptions.  

If cutting commissions is Fotolia's idea of trying to keep contributor's happy I think it falls misearably short.  

And as for who gets the commission raise, that is what, 3 people?  I have been emerald for a couple of years now and I still only have 30k sales at Fotolia.  

This is the most serious push toward Istock exclusivity yet.  

Lisa,

Since the last change have you made more or less money?  My monthly income has gone up considerably since the last change and I expect it to do so again based on the math I have done on the new price structure.  The added bonus for me personally is that I feel more confident in raising my prices to the maximum.

I have made more money, Mat, but I have also added over 1,000 images to my portfolio in the last year since the changes.  I can't be sure how much the additional sales are due to portfolio growth and how much is due to Fotolia's growth.

Fotolia was my #3 site in November of 08 and they were still my #3 site in November 09.  However my royalties at Fotolia only grew 22% over the past year, while my overall royalties grew 30%.  

To sum up, my Fotolia royalties grew 8% less than my overall royalties in the last year since the commission cut.  That is not growth, that is contraction.  Now they propose to contract even more.  Not good at all.

ETA:  Just ran the same numbers from istock.  My royalties at istock grew 72% in that same year's time!!  Holy frickin' cow!!

@Matt Hayward,

You can't delete my post here so I'll make my point again and as far as I'm concerned you can ban me from the Fotolia forum as it's pointless discussing anything there if you're going to delete anything that doesn't praise 'Fotolia', you might want to read the forum rules over there as well.

Try and understand the way business works, the dollar amount is not the issue here it's the percentage drop, the reason Fotolia have put up their prices is because the cost of running a business increases each year, well guess what the same applies to contributors who are in this as a business and whilst Fotolia have increased their nett profit percentage from a sale they have decreased ours, I appreciate it's hard to understand if you're doing this for a hobby but I'll try to explain with a simple example: when the cost of running a business raises by a $1 getting an 80c rise is not considered an increase.

And for those that missed my post before it was deleted on the Fotolia forum- all I pointed out was that at the time when the market leader and Fotolia's biggest competitor had made an announcement that was making a large number of contributors seriously think about going exclusive I was surprised to see Fotolia make this announcement.

Sorry my post didn't fit in with your 'yes man' policy over there.

Quote from: MatHayward on December 17, 2009, 13:48

Since the last change have you made more or less money?  My monthly income has gone up considerably since the last change

Not mine. I'm bronze since ages and my ELs should be priced 50 credits according to the (old) table, but my 3 most recent ELs were sold for 10, 10, 20 credits, giving me 3.2, 3.2, 6.4$, while SS gives me 28$ for an EL. Are you supposed to ask to get the proper levels applied?

Yes, I emailed them and they changed mine.

"Fotolia continues to pay artists one of the highest royalty rates in the industry"

The word 'bollocks' comes to mind when hearing that quote

By cutting royalties really shows they are not looking after there members at all

@Matt Hayward,

You can't delete my post here so I'll make my point again and as far as I'm concerned you can ban me from the Fotolia forum as it's pointless discussing anything there if you're going to delete anything that doesn't praise 'Fotolia', you might want to read the forum rules over there as well.

Sorry my post didn't fit in with your 'yes man' policy over there.

I already worked for a company working that way. They are closed now. Not getting true feedbacks from employees is the main reason. Everyone were quitting in less than 6 months. I know Wal-Mart act the same way as well. Nothing good to be compared to

I have seen Mat's calculations here and on fotolia forum!

Hilarious  

Ok Mat,

Currently my percentage is %34

When I sell an $8 vector I get $2.72

With fotolia's genius new structure my percentage will be %31

I will be getting $2.48 when I sell an $8 vector which happens very often.

So this year I make $2.72, next year I will be making $2.48 per vector. How do you expect to compensate this huge loss? It is huge considering I sell a lot of vectors.


I guess my Maths skills are not as good as yours.