Author Topic: Fotolia is my best seller this month (Read 23760 times)

Deyan Georgiev Photography · « **on:** July 21, 2014, 12:11 »

Hi everybody,

This month in Fotolia if I compare proportional for the first 21 days the income is 20% more than my best month ever

But the most important thing I notice is that this month I have not rise of the subscription sales!

dpimborough · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2014, 16:26 »

Quote from: Deyan Georgiev on July 21, 2014, 12:11

Hi everybody,

This month in Fotolia if I compare proportional for the first 21 days the income is 20% more than my best month ever

But the most important thing I notice is that this month I have not rise of the subscription sales!

Are you selling your images through the Dollar Photo Club?

PhotoBomb · « **Reply #2 on:** July 21, 2014, 16:30 »

Yes he is. 7000+ images - So Sad.

Deyan Georgiev Photography · « **Reply #3 on:** July 22, 2014, 00:51 »

Quote from: Teddy the Cat on July 21, 2014, 16:26

Quote from: Deyan Georgiev on July 21, 2014, 12:11
Hi everybody,

This month in Fotolia if I compare proportional for the first 21 days the income is 20% more than my best month ever

But the most important thing I notice is that this month I have not rise of the subscription sales!

Are you selling your images through the Dollar Photo Club?

I sell in DPC, but the rise is not from there as the subscription sales are not more then before DPC exist. I mean the sales as the number of sales, because now we have very good subscription sales in Fotolia as price. I think that about DPC we can draw conclusions for at least one year not now.

Deyan Georgiev Photography · « **Reply #4 on:** July 22, 2014, 01:00 »

Quote from: PhotoBomb on July 21, 2014, 16:30

Yes he is. 7000+ images - So Sad.

This what today looks "So Sad" after a year can be something different. I've shared this sales growth, not to discuss DPC, because I really think it's too early not defend it nor reject it.

pixsol · « **Reply #5 on:** July 22, 2014, 01:48 »

Deyan - Can you tell us if the increase in FT has come at the cost of other agencies ? Do you see any decrease in sales in other agencies ?

You have mentioned that there have been no increase in the subscription sales. Do you know (if that is even possible to know) whether the subscriptions are more from FT or DPC ?

Thanks in advance for your reply.

Deyan Georgiev Photography · « **Reply #6 on:** July 22, 2014, 02:08 »

Quote from: pixsol on July 22, 2014, 01:48

Deyan - Can you tell us if the increase in FT has come at the cost of other agencies ? Do you see any decrease in sales in other agencies ?

You have mentioned that there have been no increase in the subscription sales. Do you know (if that is even possible to know) whether the subscriptions are more from FT or DPC ?

Thanks in advance for your reply.

It is too short period of time to draw comparison whether there is a connection and whether this growth is at the cost of other agencies. Moreover, if we talk about sales decline of Single&Other in Shutterstock I can say yes this month they are rather weak, but this type of sales are accidental and can not be createria to conclusions(for example in the past year I have two months with the same drop without the presence of DPC)

About the subscriptions I have no idea what part of them are from DPC.

dirkr · « **Reply #7 on:** July 22, 2014, 02:14 »

I think FT has changed their search a bit. I too can see an increase in sales (though my numbers are too low to be statistically relevant), and I am opted out of DPC.

cobalt · « **Reply #8 on:** July 22, 2014, 02:24 »

fotolia is up for me as well this month and I am opted out of dpc. Maybe they have increased their marketing to prove they can still grow fotolia as well. Or maybe I am just lucky this month.

pixsol · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2014, 02:35 »

Quote from: Deyan Georgiev on July 22, 2014, 02:08

Quote from: pixsol on July 22, 2014, 01:48
Deyan - Can you tell us if the increase in FT has come at the cost of other agencies ? Do you see any decrease in sales in other agencies ?

You have mentioned that there have been no increase in the subscription sales. Do you know (if that is even possible to know) whether the subscriptions are more from FT or DPC ?

Thanks in advance for your reply.

It is too short period of time to draw comparison whether there is a connection and whether this growth is at the cost of other agencies. Moreover, if we talk about sales decline of Single&Other in Shutterstock I can say yes this month they are rather weak, but this type of sales are accidental and can not be createria to conclusions(for example in the past year I have two months with the same drop without the presence of DPC)

About the subscriptions I have no idea what part of them are from DPC.

Thanks Deyan !

Karen · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2014, 03:39 »

Quote from: Deyan Georgiev on July 22, 2014, 00:51

I sell in DPC, but the rise is not from there...

Why do you support fotolia DPC?
Why did not you remove your 7000+ images from DPC?

Deyan Georgiev Photography · « **Reply #11 on:** July 22, 2014, 05:03 »

Quote from: Karen on July 22, 2014, 03:39

Quote from: Deyan Georgiev on July 22, 2014, 00:51
I sell in DPC, but the rise is not from there...
Why do you support fotolia DPC?
Why did not you remove your 7000+ images from DPC?

It is difficult to answer short and more with my not good english.

First I will not defend DPC, because generally looking it is bad for us to sell pictures at a low price. And as now have the button to opt out I can do it at every time. By the moment I'm not sure about the influence of DPC on the market and when I'm not sure I do not make any decision. If opt out I will loose money for sure, if not I'm not sure if I will get more sales on the other sites to compensate this.

The future will show us a lot about this

P.S. We are small boats in the microstock ocean and The Search of each agency is the wind that drives our boat to the our client! One day when someone become a big ship, then will not be necessary to rely only on the Search wind just because he is big and the client can see him from very far away. It will even not be necessary to float so much, but the client will go to him.

So, I do the thing in a manner which is right at the moment.

Beppe Grillo · « **Reply #12 on:** July 22, 2014, 05:08 »

Quote from: PhotoBomb on July 21, 2014, 16:30

Yes he is. 7000+ images - So Sad.

So sad to see that not everybody agree to let the others make their own choices…
Yes, this is really so sad…

Deyan Georgiev Photography · « **Reply #13 on:** July 22, 2014, 05:18 »

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on July 22, 2014, 05:08

Quote from: PhotoBomb on July 21, 2014, 16:30
Yes he is. 7000+ images - So Sad.

So sad to see that not everybody agree to let the others make their own choices…
Yes, this is really so sad…

This can be true if we know how much are "the others". As I said there are a lot of information we need.

Monty-m-gue · « **Reply #14 on:** July 22, 2014, 05:31 »

Deyan, it's hard to see how DPC can be good for contributors in the short or long term. By leaving your files at DPC you are effectively telling Fotolia that you are OK with the direction they are taking the industry. If you removed your files you would be offering solidarity with contributors and sending a clear message to DPC.

If we little boats gather together on the ocean and utilise only the wind of the supportive agencies then we'll likely have a sustainable industry for longer...

dpimborough · « **Reply #15 on:** July 22, 2014, 05:43 »

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on July 22, 2014, 05:08

Quote from: PhotoBomb on July 21, 2014, 16:30
Yes he is. 7000+ images - So Sad.

So sad to see that not everybody agree to let the others make their own choices…
Yes, this is really so sad…

He has made his choice nobody forced him to leave DPC or stay in it

MarcvsTvllivs · « **Reply #16 on:** July 22, 2014, 06:36 »

Fotolia is up for me as well. I too am opted out of DPC.

Nikovsk · « **Reply #17 on:** July 22, 2014, 06:43 »

Quote from: Monty-m-gue on July 22, 2014, 05:31

Deyan, it's hard to see how DPC can be good for contributors in the short or long term. By leaving your files at DPC you are effectively telling Fotolia that you are OK with the direction they are taking the industry. If you removed your files you would be offering solidarity with contributors and sending a clear message to DPC.

If we little boats gather together on the ocean and utilise only the wind of the supportive agencies then we'll likely have a sustainable industry for longer...

If the top 1% contributors got together in the decision making, the balance agency/contributor would be much more favorable to us. I hope the Fotolia D-day is the start of something bigger, but again it will only work properly if the top contributors are in as they hold the vast majority of the collection.

Monty-m-gue · « **Reply #18 on:** July 22, 2014, 06:49 »

Fotolia is well up for me this month too. I'm opted out of DPC. I expected to be penalised but that doesn't seem to have happened..

Mantis · « **Reply #19 on:** July 22, 2014, 07:23 »

Quote from: Deyan Georgiev on July 22, 2014, 00:51

Quote from: Teddy the Cat on July 21, 2014, 16:26
Quote from: Deyan Georgiev on July 21, 2014, 12:11
Hi everybody,

This month in Fotolia if I compare proportional for the first 21 days the income is 20% more than my best month ever

But the most important thing I notice is that this month I have not rise of the subscription sales!

Are you selling your images through the Dollar Photo Club?

I sell in DPC, but the rise is not from there as the subscription sales are not more then before DPC exist. I mean the sales as the number of sales, because now we have very good subscription sales in Fotolia as price. I think that about DPC we can draw conclusions for at least one year not now.

You can draw conclusions immediately by the $1 pricing. DPC is a poison to micro stock for this very reason. They lie to contributors by calling DPC subscriptions when it is in fact a credit purchase model, yet they pay sub royalties. What other FACTS do you need to convince you that this is a very bad deal? With the size of your port, you fit a perfect profile for the kind of contributor we need to stand up to those greedy bullies at Fotolia. It's up to you, of course, what you ultimately do, I just thought it was important to post some facts that dispel the "waiting period" argument.

Deyan Georgiev Photography · « **Reply #20 on:** July 22, 2014, 08:23 »

The purpose of my post was not to discuss DPC, because of this will stop. Am sorry, but it is really difficult to me to explane how I see this situation. May be a little bit later...

Let's focus our energy to create high value images which will not sell for $1. There are a lot of places to sell images for good money.

cthoman · « **Reply #21 on:** July 22, 2014, 09:25 »

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on July 22, 2014, 05:08

Quote from: PhotoBomb on July 21, 2014, 16:30
Yes he is. 7000+ images - So Sad.

So sad to see that not everybody agree to let the others make their own choices…
Yes, this is really so sad…

True. Nobody can make decisions for others. At the same time, the decisions other contributors make affect everyone.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #22 on:** July 22, 2014, 10:23 »

Quote from: cthoman on July 22, 2014, 09:25

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on July 22, 2014, 05:08
Quote from: PhotoBomb on July 21, 2014, 16:30
Yes he is. 7000+ images - So Sad.

So sad to see that not everybody agree to let the others make their own choices…
Yes, this is really so sad…

the decisions other contributors make affect everyone.

This is always true but until DPC nobody seem to care.

gbalex · « **Reply #23 on:** July 22, 2014, 11:10 »

Quote from: Monty-m-gue on July 22, 2014, 05:31

Deyan, it's hard to see how DPC can be good for contributors in the short or long term. By leaving your files at DPC you are effectively telling Fotolia that you are OK with the direction they are taking the industry. If you removed your files you would be offering solidarity with contributors and sending a clear message to DPC.

If we little boats gather together on the ocean and utilise only the wind of the supportive agencies then we'll likely have a sustainable industry for longer...

Outstanding post

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #24 on:** July 22, 2014, 11:26 »

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on July 22, 2014, 05:08

Quote from: PhotoBomb on July 21, 2014, 16:30
Yes he is. 7000+ images - So Sad.

So sad to see that not everybody agree to let the others make their own choices…
Yes, this is really so sad…

no, it is you Photobomb and some others who are sad

from his post, i don't sense he is sad.
and Beppe is correct. it is you who decides what you want with your work.
no more than a custom auto shop complaining that xxx franchise is giving away business for peanuts.

if his workload is of low-production cost or even zero cost, and he makes a killing in DPC ( i am not with fotolia or any DPC sites, just to let you know...)
his work is giving him the rewards he seek.

so why not? if your work is of higher value, bully for you!
we divide the zero cost work and the higher value work accordingly,
and submit them to the agencies or sell it independently... locally or globally.

in the end, it is none of anyone's affair but his, as Beppe points out.

lastly, as he said

Quote from: Deyan Georgiev on July 22, 2014, 08:23

The purpose of my post was not to discuss DPC, because of this will stop. Am sorry, but it is really difficult to me to explane how I see this situation. May be a little bit later...

Let's focus our energy to create high value images which will not sell for $1. There are a lot of places to sell images for good money.

so, why not leave it as it is.

if it leaves a sour taste in your mouths, you are just as free here on Tyler's MSG to start a new post
and say so.
furthermore, at least he is making some money, whereas others who cry shame may be giving their own work free on dst etc ... but that's for another thread.
i will keep this thread on issue as Deyan wishes

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