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« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2014, 11:05 »
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I wonder if these sales will be reported in such a way that we know where the sales came from: FT or FT-Dollar Club, or if they are simply going to hide it all under one mysterious umbrella.

Since we don't know how their other affiliate earnings are reported my guess is the last one.


« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2014, 12:05 »
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I wonder if these sales will be reported in such a way that we know where the sales came from: FT or FT-Dollar Club, or if they are simply going to hide it all under one mysterious umbrella.

There won't be any way to identify sales from DPC, I asked.

Thanks. What a f-%^$^ng joke FT has become.

« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2014, 23:09 »
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Even though I told FT two days ago that I wanted to remove my port there, my images are still up. Maybe I'll hear back from them about that tomorrow (Monday).

But... I had my first "Dollar Club" sale today. I made a whole $.20 for one of my best images. That's twenty cents, folks.

Who-hoo!!!!!!

« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2014, 23:54 »
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Even though I told FT two days ago that I wanted to remove my port there, my images are still up. Maybe I'll hear back from them about that tomorrow (Monday).

But... I had my first "Dollar Club" sale today. I made a whole $.20 for one of my best images. That's twenty cents, folks.

Who-hoo!!!!!!

How did you determine it was a DollarClub Sale?

« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2014, 09:59 »
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Even though I told FT two days ago that I wanted to remove my port there, my images are still up. Maybe I'll hear back from them about that tomorrow (Monday).

But... I had my first "Dollar Club" sale today. I made a whole $.20 for one of my best images. That's twenty cents, folks.

Who-hoo!!!!!!

How did you determine it was a DollarClub Sale?

Under that image in my "Files Overview" section, it shows this:

License XS
Price    1.00
Commission 0.20
Sales   2

I've never seen that combination of info until this weekend. So I interpreted "Price 1.00" as meaning "Dollar Club", and "Commission 0.20" as $0.20"

Is that not correct?

DC


« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2014, 10:03 »
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XS is extra small, which just happens to cost a dollar.

« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2014, 10:05 »
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XS is extra small, which just happens to cost a dollar.

OK. Maybe I got that wrong.

But... if an image already costs $1.00, then what's the big deal about the "Dollar Club"?  Is it that you can get an XXL image for $1.00?

« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2014, 10:28 »
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I kind of see this as their ThinkStock and possibly will drive more of our sales to this sub scheme than to the credit sales we could should be getting.

Ron

« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2014, 10:32 »
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XS is extra small, which just happens to cost a dollar.

OK. Maybe I got that wrong.

But... if an image already costs $1.00, then what's the big deal about the "Dollar Club"?  Is it that you can get an XXL image for $1.00?
No, its a credit sale, its one credit, and you get 20% of 1 credit, is 0.20 credits. Depending on what you account you have thats converted to 1 credit = 1 Euros, 1 credit = 0.75 pound or 1 credit = 1 dollar.

« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2014, 10:41 »
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XS is extra small, which just happens to cost a dollar.

OK. Maybe I got that wrong.

But... if an image already costs $1.00, then what's the big deal about the "Dollar Club"?  Is it that you can get an XXL image for $1.00?
No, its a credit sale, its one credit, and you get 20% of 1 credit, is 0.20 credits. Depending on what you account you have thats converted to 1 credit = 1 Euros, 1 credit = 0.75 pound or 1 credit = 1 dollar.

OK. I get that.

But it still begs the question: Will the "Dollar Club" make our images available for $1 regardless of size? Will the large size still be $1?

ADDED: Perhaps I should point out that my FT port is very small and I've not had many sales there. Certainly, nothing close to a payout. So I don't quite understand how their system works.

And the whole bit about "credits" calculated differently depending on where one lives is rather murky.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2014, 10:43 by marthamarks »

« Reply #60 on: January 20, 2014, 14:27 »
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Yes, that is unbelievably for every size.  I assume that they will throw us a sub, but will hold my breath - it is Fotolia after all and won't be surprized if they make it even smaller.

« Reply #61 on: January 20, 2014, 16:25 »
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Yes, that is unbelievably for every size.  I assume that they will throw us a sub,

So... it will be $.25 (twenty-five cents) for each sub sold, regardless of size. Forever.

I started at that stage with SS and have happily moved up in the royalty rankings since then. But it doesn't sound like FT plans any increasing royalties with its swanky new "Dollar Club." The photographer will get $.25 forever.

Good grief. I am definitely outta FT.

« Reply #62 on: January 20, 2014, 16:40 »
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Yes, that is unbelievably for every size.  I assume that they will throw us a sub,

So... it will be $.25 (twenty-five cents) for each sub sold, regardless of size. Forever.

I started at that stage with SS and have happily moved up in the royalty rankings since then. But it doesn't sound like FT plans any increasing royalties with its swanky new "Dollar Club." The photographer will get $.25 forever.

Good grief. I am definitely outta FT.

As I understand it, you will make the same from a DPC sale as a regular sub on FT. I make 29 Cents per regular sub. I expect to receive that for sales on DPC.

« Reply #63 on: January 20, 2014, 16:52 »
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Yes, that is unbelievably for every size.  I assume that they will throw us a sub,

So... it will be $.25 (twenty-five cents) for each sub sold, regardless of size. Forever.

I started at that stage with SS and have happily moved up in the royalty rankings since then. But it doesn't sound like FT plans any increasing royalties with its swanky new "Dollar Club." The photographer will get $.25 forever.

Good grief. I am definitely outta FT.

As I understand it, you will make the same from a DPC sale as a regular sub on FT. I make 29 Cents per regular sub. I expect to receive that for sales on DPC.

But how many credit sales is that going to steal from you? Assuming that at least some of these "special exclusive" customers (which in my mind is everyone they can pump into it) purchased credit packs, and now are on a subs program, we lose way more that the peanuts for a .20-.29 cent sub.

MxR

« Reply #64 on: January 21, 2014, 06:14 »
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Subscriptions?...  this really is: sell photos XL on demand for a dollar, not a real subscription.

 Our work is like a crap for Fotolia "the microstock Titanic"

« Reply #65 on: January 21, 2014, 06:43 »
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Microstock............R.I.P.

« Reply #66 on: January 21, 2014, 08:12 »
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Closing account.... it's time we showed our market muscles, because we actually do have those: there are plenty of other sites. Just like buyers, "vote with you feet", leave them.

« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2014, 08:20 »
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Yes, that is unbelievably for every size.  I assume that they will throw us a sub,

So... it will be $.25 (twenty-five cents) for each sub sold, regardless of size. Forever.

I started at that stage with SS and have happily moved up in the royalty rankings since then. But it doesn't sound like FT plans any increasing royalties with its swanky new "Dollar Club." The photographer will get $.25 forever.

Good grief. I am definitely outta FT.

As I understand it, you will make the same from a DPC sale as a regular sub on FT. I make 29 Cents per regular sub. I expect to receive that for sales on DPC.

But how many credit sales is that going to steal from you? Assuming that at least some of these "special exclusive" customers (which in my mind is everyone they can pump into it) purchased credit packs, and now are on a subs program, we lose way more that the peanuts for a .20-.29 cent sub.

Hi Mantis, I wasn't supporting Fotolia's DPC, merely correcting an inaccurate assumption made by the previous poster (Marthmarks) that all payments would be 25 cents forever. I share your concern that this initiative will eat into credit sales. I'll wait and see how this affects the balance of sub / credit sales on FT before making a decision to drop them..

« Reply #68 on: January 21, 2014, 09:10 »
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Yes, that is unbelievably for every size.  I assume that they will throw us a sub,

So... it will be $.25 (twenty-five cents) for each sub sold, regardless of size. Forever.

I started at that stage with SS and have happily moved up in the royalty rankings since then. But it doesn't sound like FT plans any increasing royalties with its swanky new "Dollar Club." The photographer will get $.25 forever.

Good grief. I am definitely outta FT.

As I understand it, you will make the same from a DPC sale as a regular sub on FT. I make 29 Cents per regular sub. I expect to receive that for sales on DPC.

But how many credit sales is that going to steal from you? Assuming that at least some of these "special exclusive" customers (which in my mind is everyone they can pump into it) purchased credit packs, and now are on a subs program, we lose way more that the peanuts for a .20-.29 cent sub.

Hi Mantis, I wasn't supporting Fotolia's DPC, merely correcting an inaccurate assumption made by the previous poster (Marthmarks) that all payments would be 25 cents forever. I share your concern that this initiative will eat into credit sales. I'll wait and see how this affects the balance of sub / credit sales on FT before making a decision to drop them..

I hear ya.  I meant "US" not you specifically.  This whole thing stinks.

gillian vann

  • *Gillian*
« Reply #69 on: January 27, 2014, 03:37 »
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exclusive high volume clients..... who only want 10 images per month.  ???

« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2014, 15:08 »
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It's been over three weeks since I advised fotolia I wanted to close my account and I'm still getting the occasional sale there, so my photos are still online. Meanwhile, still no response to my request to close the account. Maybe I ought to send them a message by certified mail or maybe there's a 30-day waiting period?

Anyone else get a response?



« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2014, 18:53 »
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Hi "WordPlanet"

Looks like Customer Service was waiting for a response to an email, hence the delay. I just confirmed that your account is now closed.

-Mat


Mat, I guess I'm in the same situation. I asked for cancellation, then got an email asking "Are you sure?" I tried to write back and say YES! but I couldn't figure out how to reply to that message I received.

Perhaps you can take the initiative of closing my account too, and removing my images.

Thanks!

EDITED TO ADD: Mat did make that happen. Thank you, Mat!
« Last Edit: February 07, 2014, 23:26 by marthamarks »

« Reply #73 on: February 08, 2014, 13:02 »
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I just received this message from FT. Anybody have further thoughts?


Hi Martha,

Thank you for your email. Unfortunately we cannot remove your files from Dollar Photo Club unless we completely delete them from Fotolia first.

Please note that Dollar Photo Club is an affiliate site that is using the Fotolia api program. The database on Fotolia is mirrored on this site as it is on many other partner sites. The difference is that Dollar Photo Club isnt available to everyone. It is an exclusive club (not exclusive content) that is going to be made available to heavy buyers.

The sales from Dollar Photo Club take place through Fotolia (as do all API sales)
so your commission remains the same. It is essentially a giant subscription. You will receive the same subscription commission you would if the image were purchased directly from a Fotolia member with a subscription.

This is another way to drive traffic to your portfolios and should result in an increase in overall sales for each of us.

Sincerely,

I think we will see more sites using api to offer discounted sub deals to large entities. Fortune 500 companies and such.

It would not surprise me a bit to find that SS is offering similar API deals via BS where they pay lower royalties overall.

« Reply #74 on: February 08, 2014, 15:27 »
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This is very similar to what SS did with Facebook - give them a giant 'subscription' for some upfront payment - from which we get nothing - then pay photographers a token amount per download.   

In the new world of microstock there are no more "sales" or "royalties".   The big money is in upfront fees which the agency doesn't share with contributors.  A download via an API isn't a sale, so the payment isn't based on a percentage.

As always, You'll Make It Up On Volume.

« Last Edit: February 08, 2014, 15:29 by stockastic »


 

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