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BD

« Reply #75 on: February 08, 2014, 17:34 »
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Not really. In the Shutterstock Facebook deal the images are used only ones (one time usage) and only on the Facebook site in a smaller size. Unless Im mistaken, this Fotolia deal is for multiple uses (royalty free) at any size?


« Reply #76 on: February 08, 2014, 19:39 »
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Not really. In the Shutterstock Facebook deal the images are used only ones (one time usage) and only on the Facebook site in a smaller size. Unless Im mistaken, this Fotolia deal is for multiple uses (royalty free) at any size?

That's how I interpret it.

« Reply #77 on: February 09, 2014, 12:52 »
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Hi "WordPlanet"

Looks like Customer Service was waiting for a response to an email, hence the delay. I just confirmed that your account is now closed.

-Mat

Thank you Mat!

Uncle Pete

« Reply #78 on: February 11, 2014, 00:21 »
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Excuse me but is it possible for BS to offer lower royalties? They added that failed 50,000 DL RC level. And already pay less than SS. How much lower can it go there?

I closed my FT account and I must say, they waited for the end of the month and removed everything and paid me in 30 days. Couldn't have been any smoother or easy.

I closed mine over the partner programs and potential of losing all rights to everything because of mass distribution to unknown agencies, lack of detailed accounting or being able to monitor what was going on with my work. A general plague that's been afflicting microstock.

It would not surprise me a bit to find that SS is offering similar API deals via BS where they pay lower royalties overall.

jbarber873

« Reply #79 on: February 12, 2014, 09:31 »
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I remember a few years ago when every new year brought some sort of raise in this industry.  Ah the good old days...

Now each new year brings new ways to devalue our work and cut into our earnings.  Every January like clockwork. 

I really look forward to when my daughter finishes graduate school and begins earning enough to support herself.  Then I will be quite happy to throw in the towel.  It stopped being fun somewhere around 2010-2011.

  Wow, Lisa, I remember when you were just talking about which college your daughter would attend. Graduate school! Time marches by, and the only difference I see at Fotolia is that they have gone from being an arrogant agency with pretty good sales to becoming an arrogant agency with really lousy sales. Matt can whistle past the graveyard all he wants, but it's over at Fotolia.
   Time to open that taco stand I always wanted...

« Reply #80 on: February 12, 2014, 10:46 »
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... Time marches by, and the only difference I see at Fotolia is that they have gone from being an arrogant agency with pretty good sales to becoming an arrogant agency with really lousy sales. ...


It's a shame that an agency that started out with so much promise, and managed to survive a near-death experience with their V2.0 software has been a leader of late in various royalty cutting moves and not much else. They were the agency that really made an effort to do something for the European (non-English-speaking) market - which iStock and Shutterstock sensibly followed.

Good agencies gone bad :)
« Last Edit: February 13, 2014, 01:19 by Jo Ann Snover »

« Reply #81 on: February 12, 2014, 11:22 »
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I closed mine over the partner programs and potential of losing all rights to everything because of mass distribution to unknown agencies

Same reason why I closed my FT account, Pete. It seems better to retreat to a few "trusted" agencies (assuming any are trustworthy) and my own website than see my port spread all over the world on vague "partner" sites. Too much of it is in that situation already, but at least I can do a better job with images to come.

lisafx

« Reply #82 on: February 12, 2014, 22:11 »
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I remember a few years ago when every new year brought some sort of raise in this industry.  Ah the good old days...

Now each new year brings new ways to devalue our work and cut into our earnings.  Every January like clockwork. 

I really look forward to when my daughter finishes graduate school and begins earning enough to support herself.  Then I will be quite happy to throw in the towel.  It stopped being fun somewhere around 2010-2011.

  Wow, Lisa, I remember when you were just talking about which college your daughter would attend. Graduate school! Time marches by, and the only difference I see at Fotolia is that they have gone from being an arrogant agency with pretty good sales to becoming an arrogant agency with really lousy sales. Matt can whistle past the graveyard all he wants, but it's over at Fotolia.
   Time to open that taco stand I always wanted...

My post may have been misleading...  She's halfway through her junior year of college, but planning on getting a masters degree, so that's when our financial obligation to her ends.  Assuming it ever does.  Anyone with self-sustaining adult kids want to provide a ray of hope?  PLEASE!!
   ;)

« Reply #83 on: February 13, 2014, 01:55 »
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If I get it right they all are same, one dollar:

- small $1
- medium $1
- xxl $1

"Only our highest resolutution files Unlimited image use, unlimited print runs".

Why even bother for small downloads if they all are SAME PRICE!

And "Unlimited print runs, Unlimited image use", it's just extended USE, nothing less!

And this "heavy image users".. 10 images on month, realy realy HEAVY USERS ONLY!

All my images on Fotolia are extended marked, So, what happens if I will set them not extended. Fotolia take my images out from Dollar Club or not?

ERR: some typo: exclusive versus extended .. lol
« Last Edit: February 13, 2014, 02:17 by jarih »

stocked

« Reply #84 on: February 13, 2014, 03:55 »
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They are clearly targeting Shutterstocks bottomline as FT has no stand in the US. And as usual with FT they are targeting our bottomline too with their DollarPhotoClub (ReallyStupidName).
If you love these 28,- Dollar ELs and if you depend on the income stream from Shutterstock you should worry!
« Last Edit: February 13, 2014, 05:17 by stocked »

« Reply #85 on: February 15, 2014, 21:14 »
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Hi all,
 
I looked into Dollar Photo Club.  It is an affiliate site that is using the Fotolia api program.  The database on Fotolia is mirrored on this site as it is on many other partner sites.  The difference is that Dollar Photo Club isnt available to everyone.  It is an exclusive club (not exclusive content) that is going to be made available to heavy buyers. 
 
The sales from Dollar Photo Club take place through Fotolia (as do all api sales) so your commission remains the same.  It is essentially a giant subscription.  You will receive the same subscription commission you would if the image were purchased directly from a Fotolia member with a subscription. 
 
This is another way to drive traffic to your portfolios and should result in an increase in overall sales for each of us.

All the best,

Mat Hayward

 :o Wow - I never knew I was a heavy buyer of images at FT.  How did that slip past me? I received my invitation this week to join the dollar club as an exclusive member.

Funny thing is, I've never bought a single image from FT - contributor only.

« Reply #86 on: February 16, 2014, 08:58 »
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I have 20+k images at FTL. It took me a lot of effort to upload that many images so it is not an easy decision to quit. It never was. They know this. And I am sure they don't care if I quit. But to tell you the truth my imcome is going to be so low on their site that I also don't need to care anymore. Means I can quit just for the fun. :) And it would be a fun!

« Reply #87 on: February 16, 2014, 09:53 »
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I have 20+k images at FTL. It took me a lot of effort to upload that many images so it is not an easy decision to quit. It never was. They know this. And I am sure they don't care if I quit. But to tell you the truth my imcome is going to be so low on their site that I also don't need to care anymore. Means I can quit just for the fun. :) And it would be a fun!

This is where we are today, unless you are of the caliber of the likes of Sean.  But you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT when you say they don't care because, regardless, there are far more artists who aren't on these forums, who aren't unaware of the manipulation agencies undertake, and new content will keep flowing.  With guys like Sean they can use that as branding leverage.  With guys like me they take a dump, throw their cigarette in the water and flush. Why? They will gladly take another dump tomorrow.

« Reply #88 on: February 16, 2014, 16:47 »
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Well, my overall rank at Fotolia is no25 currently so they should have a reason to care.  But I know they don't.

« Reply #89 on: February 20, 2014, 02:19 »
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I came across the site while looking for other places to sell my stuff. Race to the bottom for sure.

BD

« Reply #90 on: February 23, 2014, 04:10 »
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Also from their FAQ:

Dollar Photo Club images can be used for any non-commercial projects such as websites, web banners, newsletters, PDF documents, blogs, email, slide shows, standard-resolution TV and video presentations, and cell phone splash screens. Images can also accompany magazine articles, books, advertising, brochures, documents, illustrations, booklets, brochures, billboards, business cards, packaging, high-resolution videos, and presentations where the value of the images is not the main value of the overall project.

What does that last bit mean? (my bolding)

Have you looked at Fotolias standard license lately? It says pretty much the same thing. The Dollar Club license looks pretty much the same as Fotolias standard license. Actually Ive noticed quite a few agencies now have this in their standard license. I think there might be a lot of contributors who need to check licenses at their agencies. They have been changing
« Last Edit: February 23, 2014, 04:29 by BD »

« Reply #91 on: February 24, 2014, 13:09 »
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So... the BS about this club being exclusive and not being available to everyone... Well I just got an invitation.  I got an account when PhotoXpress first opened - and edited to add that I NEVER SPENT A CENT THERE.... but I'm important enough to get this exclusive elusive invitation.

From: PhotoXpress [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:06 AM
To: XXXX
Subject: New Stock Photo site, just $1 a Vector

Our friends at Fotolia just launched an amazing new site we know you'll want to check out...

Dollar Photo Club is the next wave in stock photos - a members-only club offering 25 million royalty free images for one easy price.
$1 for any vector and any high res image - guaranteed!
Discover downloads that NEVER expire - cancel your membership and purchased downloads will STILL be there when you need them, always...

Don't ever pay more than $1 for professional stock images and vectors!
Join Dollar Photo Club today!
The Dollar Photo Club Committee
P.S. PhotoXpress customers like you can get preferred admission to Dollar Photo Club; just choose "PhotoXpress" when asked which stock agencies you currently use
- but hurry, places are strictly limited
!

« Reply #92 on: February 24, 2014, 13:12 »
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double post
« Last Edit: February 24, 2014, 13:15 by Pixart »

« Reply #93 on: February 24, 2014, 13:13 »
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And just to remind everyone... Mat did look into this for us right away and this is what he was told...  (Just trying to understand the e-mail's:  "Our friends at Fotolia have just launched an amazing new site...  Could I be misreading that statement?)  (Edited to fix that sentence)


Hi all,
 
I looked into Dollar Photo Club.  It is an affiliate site that is using the Fotolia api program.  The database on Fotolia is mirrored on this site as it is on many other partner sites.  The difference is that Dollar Photo Club isnt available to everyone.  It is an exclusive club (not exclusive content) that is going to be made available to heavy buyers. 
 
The sales from Dollar Photo Club take place through Fotolia (as do all api sales) so your commission remains the same.  It is essentially a giant subscription.  You will receive the same subscription commission you would if the image were purchased directly from a Fotolia member with a subscription. 
 
This is another way to drive traffic to your portfolios and should result in an increase in overall sales for each of us.

All the best,

Mat Hayward
[/quote]

« Reply #94 on: February 24, 2014, 13:32 »
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@ Pixart
Lol, thanks for posting! I'm not with them but I had really good time reading this... [censure]
 ;D ;D

« Reply #95 on: February 24, 2014, 14:09 »
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Thought... maybe everyone reading this should sign up for as many accounts as possible and use up all their limited spots?

« Reply #96 on: February 24, 2014, 15:39 »
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And "Unlimited print runs, Unlimited image use", it's just extended USE, nothing less!


But the standard licence at Fotolia already offers unlimited print runs - this from the licences page on their site:
"Fotolias standard license allows unlimited print runs"  It also covers so many uses like book covers etc that it is a wonder anyone ever buys an extended licence.  I don't allow them with my FT port since I got $5 for one not long after I started.  Dollar Photo Club doesn't seem to offer extended licences that I can see, but when the permitted use of the standard licence is so broad who needs one apart from TShirt and mug sellers?

« Reply #97 on: February 24, 2014, 18:33 »
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Discover downloads that NEVER expire - cancel your membership and purchased downloads will STILL be there when you need them, always...

Ok, what happends if I quit Fotolia and delete my portfolio. My images will sill be there for future downloads for those who bought them before? Even if I do not work with Fotolia anymore and do not allow them to have my photos on their website and servers? Where and when did I sign this?

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #98 on: February 24, 2014, 18:40 »
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Discover downloads that NEVER expire - cancel your membership and purchased downloads will STILL be there when you need them, always...

Ok, what happends if I quit Fotolia and delete my portfolio. My images will sill be there for future downloads for those who bought them before? Even if I do not work with Fotolia anymore and do not allow them to have my photos on their website and servers? Where and when did I sign this?

It means that just like regular buyers, even if they stop buying at Fotolia, they still have any files they already bought and downloaded.
Some subs sites have clauses that say buyers can't use files in new projects after they stop their subscription payments, but I have no idea how they'd police that.

« Reply #99 on: February 24, 2014, 18:50 »
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It means that just like regular buyers, even if they stop buying at Fotolia, they still have any files they already bought and downloaded.
Some subs sites have clauses that say buyers can't use files in new projects after they stop their subscription payments, but I have no idea how they'd police that.

Yes ok, I got it! That wasn't my point.
My point is, they promise that buyers can redownload bought images forever, anytime. Or am I wrong and they aren't offering this? If they do, how can they keep their offer if the photographer quits and FTL is loosing the right to store the files on their servers?


 

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