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« Reply #150 on: April 02, 2009, 15:17 »
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what fotolia has taught me is if the image is isolated on white they almost always accept it .. no matter how horrid my technique .. if it has anything to do with nature they almost never accept .. anything else is a toss up ..


« Reply #151 on: April 02, 2009, 15:30 »
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There is just one rejection I couldn't seem to let go of. I think it's the best photo I've ever done, period, although it wouldn't be of interest to everyone, and that "aesthetic standards" thing just stuck going down.  Fotolia apparently doesn't have an appeal process, but they have an "Academy Board" forum section in which you can post rejected photos and supposedly get feedback. I did so and never got a reply.  I'm trying to move on with my life, now, but it's difficult.  The rejection of that photo haunts me.

« Reply #152 on: April 02, 2009, 15:39 »
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I have never posted something to the "academy board" section .. that said .. the few times I have looked at it (and to be fair most similar places at the other sites) .. what I have seen is since true perfection is an infinite goal anybody can take a photograph and find some justification to rationalize their preconception.

« Reply #153 on: April 02, 2009, 15:39 »
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Rejections are one of the most discouraging aspects of this business. I can understand the frustration that many have with FT - as someone who does mainly travel images, this is a category they're also not fond of. At the end of the day, you have to do what makes you happy. If not contributing to a site makes you feel better, then that's what you should do.

There's plenty of other places to spend time and energy in this business - if those places make you feel better, then chances are you'll be more productive and successful as a result.

vonkara

« Reply #154 on: April 03, 2009, 16:07 »
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Wow, I agree FT is the weirdest place to submit. They batch reject like crazy. When I started in 2007 they was accepting much of people images. I pointed out at this time as many people here the lack of quality in their collection.

Now I wonder what they are trying to do. It seem now, that all images taken out of the studio worth nothing for them. As I am shooting urban shot in Montreal for all the summer, I'm in big trouble

« Reply #155 on: April 03, 2009, 16:15 »
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Given the change I observed last month in FT (ok, it's just ONE month), with increased downloads, higher RPD and a significant decrease in subscriptions, I might consider resuming uploading to them.  These stories about rejections make wonder however...

RaFaLe

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« Reply #156 on: April 04, 2009, 04:12 »
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Yeah this is by far the worst for a budding photographer, trying to grow a portfolio!
The smallest portfolio I have is with FT.
They reject my work like crazy.
I think I now have something stupid like an 8% acceptance ratio!!!!!!  ???
That's insane!!!!!!!

I'm actually beginning to think this is personal.
Most of the same images get accepted at SS, CS, 123, DT etc.
Seems FT is the absolute worst for me.

I'm frustrated. Maybe I'll start taking advice mentioned earlier and not submit anything nature related or anything that's not isolated on a white BG.
I'm ready to hurt someone around now - I'm mad!

« Reply #157 on: April 04, 2009, 14:39 »
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I'm already getting used to the weird rejections.  As I think other posters have pointed out, they don't like selective focus or narrow DOF (they call those "technical problems) and they don't like nature.   I can deal with that.  However in my first couple of weeks with FT my photos have received essentially no views and I've made exactly 30 cents.  So it's not looking like the place for me.





gbcimages

« Reply #158 on: April 04, 2009, 14:57 »
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I do mostly all isolated work and out of 97 they kept 35. where the other places keep almost 100% of them

« Reply #159 on: April 04, 2009, 14:59 »
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14 of my last 20 sales were subs.  What is with this subs explosion?  Is it just me?

« Reply #160 on: April 04, 2009, 16:22 »
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Pixart,

I'm knocking on wood here because I'm having the opposite experience.  Of my latest 50 sales, 7 were subs.  Of the latest 20, only one was subs.  I was getting 30-50% subs before.

Your report makes me believe I just have been lucky and FT is still taken over by subs buyers.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #161 on: April 04, 2009, 17:04 »
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Of my last 50 not as bad, only 27 subs.   Wow, 27 sales = $8.37.  At least I can bring a friend out for coffee as long as we lay off the donuts.  :)

It's mostly the last couple weeks that there's been so many.  They are totally random too, not the same buyers picking up a series.

« Reply #162 on: April 04, 2009, 17:46 »
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If you ask me, FT could leave just one reason for rejection: "Your photo did not meet aesthetic level"

Poncke

« Reply #163 on: May 20, 2012, 06:48 »
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3 years later and nothing has changed  at FT.  ;D

« Reply #164 on: May 20, 2012, 07:18 »
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Yeah this is by far the worst for a budding photographer, trying to grow a portfolio!
The smallest portfolio I have is with FT.
They reject my work like crazy.
I think I now have something stupid like an 8% acceptance ratio!!!!!!  ???
That's insane!!!!!!!

I'm actually beginning to think this is personal.
Most of the same images get accepted at SS, CS, 123, DT etc.
Seems FT is the absolute worst for me.

I'm frustrated. Maybe I'll start taking advice mentioned earlier and not submit anything nature related or anything that's not isolated on a white BG.
I'm ready to hurt someone around now - I'm mad!

what I think is frustrating on many sites oonce you have a certain percentage of acceptance/rejection - they will stick to that same ratio - even if you upload a batch of techniqly sound good stock photos - the magic ration will be applied.
So if your acceptance ratio is 8 % - I bet that if you uploaded a batch of great photos - only 10% will get accepted - no matter what.
Kind of crappy, but thats the way it is

« Reply #165 on: May 20, 2012, 07:37 »
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that was half year ago. Today keyword order at FT is not important anymore. Tested.

Is this a FT confirmed thing? I try to do my keywording in Word and put the words in order of importance there so when I upload to Alamy and FT I don't have to do a lot of extra work, but I always end up dicking around (wasting time, perhaps?).

Wim

« Reply #166 on: May 20, 2012, 09:29 »
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In my case, out of all the top tiers FT has always been the best where reviewing is concerned, almost zero rejections there lately.

« Reply #167 on: May 20, 2012, 10:07 »
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Very old thread btw

Out of curiousity just did a quick check.  I've had 3 rejections in the last year.  1 was well deserved and the other 2 are almost random like I was "due" a rejection (they were better than many accepted).  Subjectively, they have the best reviewers.  Objectively, I would expect good reviewers to reject the weaker and accept the better images and 3 of the top 4 fail by that yardstick.

« Reply #168 on: May 20, 2012, 10:52 »
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Very old thread btw

Out of curiousity just did a quick check.  I've had 3 rejections in the last year.  1 was well deserved and the other 2 are almost random like I was "due" a rejection (they were better than many accepted).  Subjectively, they have the best reviewers.  Objectively, I would expect good reviewers to reject the weaker and accept the better images and 3 of the top 4 fail by that yardstick.

It seems to depend very much on the type of photo you are unloading.   I just looked at Fotolia's "latest uploads" page.   About 90% of what's accepted is photos of attractive models, vectors, and manipulated composite images.   Only 10% are traditional still life/scenic photos.   It appears that Fotolia doesn't want a lot more of the latter types, and for them Fotolia's rejection rate is much higher than for other micro sites.   

« Reply #169 on: May 20, 2012, 11:49 »
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The recent files (and the best sellers which sometimes ony have 1 dl in total) look like editors' picks so what you say seems pretty likely.

lagereek

« Reply #170 on: May 20, 2012, 13:37 »
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Strange to hear all this. I have almost never had any problems with the FT reviewing. Its always been fair to me. I think we have to understand that in this kind of business, rejections is something that goes with the territory, Its frustrating but there you are. Best to just forget it and move on really.

As an example I always use, is the Getty-RM housecollection, when sending them say 50 files, you are honored if they accept 4.

« Reply #171 on: May 20, 2012, 15:17 »
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interesting topic back from 2008, even more curious is that his/her account is with the same pictures so why this?

« Reply #172 on: June 08, 2012, 17:24 »
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Over the years, I've learned to just shrug off rejections. But lately Fotolia stands out from the others in that it appears they are following the trend of Crestock: accepting marginal images, while nixing the ones that are selling elsewhere.

OM

« Reply #173 on: June 08, 2012, 19:00 »
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If you ask me, FT could leave just one reason for rejection: "Your photo did not meet aesthetic level"

Nah. That's reserved for the ones that they can't find a single objective thing wrong with but the reviewer doesn't like (maybe because of some repressed childhood trauma).  ;D

OM

« Reply #174 on: June 08, 2012, 19:04 »
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14 of my last 20 sales were subs.  What is with this subs explosion?  Is it just me?

Same here........madelaide is getting all the dl's and we're getting all the subs. :D

Oh dear, sucked into ancient thread........mind you, much higher percentage of subs than 2 years ago.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2012, 19:07 by OM »


 

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