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Agency Based Discussion => Adobe Stock => Topic started by: dp_dr on March 05, 2017, 16:15
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I noticed that the thumbnails (on contributors' portfolio page) do not bear anymore the Fotolia's watermark. They have the large side ~ 450px and are indexed by Google Images so they may be used by anyone without paying a penny :(
Is this a technical issue or a permanent decision from Fotolia?
See as exemple (also attached):
https://eu.fotolia.com/p/204629611 (prinscreen attached)
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I don´t like it.
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No watermarks on the buyers site either >:( just downloaded one of my images through the old right click save method and got 359x240 53kb image.
Good enough to use on a blog page
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They removed them a LONG time ago. Yup - good enough for a blog image.
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If they see a decline in sales, they will add back the watermarks.
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This is unprofessional, I don't like it.
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I've filed a complaint with Fotolia's Support and I strongly encourage you to do so, because our images are vulnarable to copyright infringment.
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Fotolia removed the watermark on thumbnails?
I don't remember any watermark on the thumbnails.
And
Shutterstock has not
Adobe stock has not
Dreamstime has not
iStock/Getty has not (and their "thumbnails are twice bigger that the one of the other sites)
Envato has not
CanStock Photo has not
Depositphotos has not
Bigstock has not
123RF has not
Zoonar has not
GL Stock Images has not
Alamy has not
Mostphotos has not
etc.
So, where is the problem?
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That could be an explanation for my miserable March. 5 downloads for the entire month less than one day's earnings before. That has never happened before, not even when I first started, years ago.
What a pity, FT was my favorite and number one agency.
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Although it's a shame agencies are so reckless with our images when it comes to watermarking thumbnails, it's considered normal nowadays. FT are not the only one.
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Fotolia removed the watermark on thumbnails?
I don't remember any watermark on the thumbnails.
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So, where is the problem?
You are wrong! Here is an older thumbnail from Fotolia! It bears the watermark and the id no.
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I just download the same image without a watermark and don´t pay anything.... fotolia please protect our portfolio, put again watermarks!!!!
Fotolia removed the watermark on thumbnails?
I don't remember any watermark on the thumbnails.
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So, where is the problem?
You are wrong! Here is an older thumbnail from Fotolia! It bears the watermark and the id no.
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Fotolia removed the watermark on thumbnails?
I don't remember any watermark on the thumbnails.
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So, where is the problem?
You are wrong! Here is an older thumbnail from Fotolia! It bears the watermark and the id no.
"I don't remember" means "I don't remember", nothing more.
I have not written that there was not, I have written that "I don't remember"
What word don't you understand in "I don't remember"?
How can be wrong somebody not remembering something?
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Reply from Fotolia >:(
Hi there,
The preview thumbnails contain no watermark because the resolution is not high enough for those images to be usable in full/definitive projects. Clients usually work with low res. copies of the file and purchase the high resolution copy when satisfied with the final result.
Kind Regards,
Fotolia Europe
+44 (0) 80 0917 0886 (English only)
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I still see watermark. I also downloaded "comp image" and it has watermark.
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Reply from Fotolia >:(
Hi there,
The preview thumbnails contain no watermark because the resolution is not high enough for those images to be usable in full/definitive projects. Clients usually work with low res. copies of the file and purchase the high resolution copy when satisfied with the final result.
Kind Regards,
Fotolia Europe
+44 (0) 80 0917 0886 (English only)
Wow, that's pretty ignorant. I can think of about 1,000 common uses for images that size. Every single blog for example.
I use images smaller than that for promoting other things I sell.
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I still see watermark. I also downloaded "comp image" and it has watermark.
They don't have watermarks until you do a mouse-over. It's very easy to just do a screen grab of the previews without the watermarks.
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Wow, that's pretty ignorant. I can think of about 1,000 common uses for images that size. Every single blog for example.
I use images smaller than that for promoting other things I sell.
I definitely agree with you. There are tons of websites that uses thumnails, for instance in rss feeds, in order to gain traffic and do not have a larger image in the main article!
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Web Designers can EASILY use it for a banner (gif) too. Nothing we can do about it though.
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Web Designers can EASILY use it for a banner (gif) too. Nothing we can do about it though.
If there is a watermark, designers can easily remove it with Photoshop if they want…
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If there is a watermark, designers can easily remove it with Photoshop if they want…
This can be proven and designers may not argue anymore that it was an innocent infringment.
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If there is a watermark, designers can easily remove it with Photoshop if they want…
This can be proven and designers may not argue anymore that it was an innocent infringment.
Yes, it is right.
But as on most of the sites (see my list above) there is no watermark on the thumbnails you will also have to prove from which site the image comes… (Bonne chance ! …)
I don't negate that it could be a problem, but it is not new and it is not only Fotolia.
I don't understand why your "attack" is so specific to Fotolia…
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I don't understand why your "attack" is so specific to Fotolia…
In my case, all my images without watermark on Google Images come from Fotolia...
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I don't understand why your "attack" is so specific to Fotolia…
Because it's not like that on Shutterstock.
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This IS the problem.
Fotolia removed the watermark on thumbnails?
I don't remember any watermark on the thumbnails.
And
Shutterstock has not
Adobe stock has not
Dreamstime has not
iStock/Getty has not (and their "thumbnails are twice bigger that the one of the other sites)
Envato has not
CanStock Photo has not
Depositphotos has not
Bigstock has not
123RF has not
Zoonar has not
GL Stock Images has not
Alamy has not
Mostphotos has not
etc.
So, where is the problem?
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Alamy has watermarks. Bigstock too. Envato thumbnails are tiny in comparison.
But it doesn't make it less of a problem if almost everyone let's you grab images for free in perfect blog size...
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It makes them do less work for an image though. Just go to Fotolia and download their comp for free ...
No need to search google or grab it from a "blog".
I think if thieves know an image is for sale on micro, it is a hard case to prove - it's in the wild.
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This IS the problem.
Fotolia removed the watermark on thumbnails?
I don't remember any watermark on the thumbnails.
And
Shutterstock has not
Adobe stock has not
Dreamstime has not
iStock/Getty has not (and their "thumbnails are twice bigger that the one of the other sites)
Envato has not
CanStock Photo has not
Depositphotos has not
Bigstock has not
123RF has not
Zoonar has not
GL Stock Images has not
Alamy has not
Mostphotos has not
etc.
So, where is the problem?
Yes, fundamentally it is.
But personally I don't care a lot because I know that many of my images are used, or will be used, without my consent.
This is part of the game and, unfortunately, if I want to be part of the game I have to play it as it is…
By the way my "So, where is the problem?" was a little "ironic/sarcastic"…