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« Reply #75 on: May 30, 2014, 02:51 »
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Good stuff, Jo Ann. Very well said.


Ron

« Reply #76 on: May 30, 2014, 02:59 »
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I can understand why they kicked me out, but hadn't they been the crooks they are in the first place I wouldnt have kicked up a shitstorm. Action = reaction, I fully accept the consequences, but thats easily said as they werent a big earner for me.

ethan

« Reply #77 on: May 30, 2014, 03:05 »
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^ still it doesn't make it right. Any corporation that uses it's 'muscle' to try administer punitive actions against a specific individual sucks.

With their actions Fotolia have firmly established themselves as the new bottom feeders in this business, and that's saying something when you consider some of the other scum-bag corps out there.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #78 on: May 30, 2014, 04:28 »
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^ still it doesn't make it right. Any corporation that uses it's 'muscle' to try administer punitive actions against a specific individual sucks.

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If these corporations were not corporations but countries we could call them dictatorships

ultimagina

« Reply #79 on: June 05, 2014, 07:07 »
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Besides the topic, but what do you expect? Democracy in a private entreprise? There is no such thing. You don't get to vote who your boss is. You freewillingly join an entreprise, sign a contract, do what your boss asks you to do, resign if you don't want to do it or get fired, sue them if the ask is illegal. It never was an it will never be a democracy.


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Ron

« Reply #80 on: June 05, 2014, 07:45 »
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If you had read my comments, you would have known I was expecting it in someway. I am not playing the victim card in any way.

PS: I have emailed Chad about 5 times to get a reason, but he is ignoring the question which I find childish. Big bad Fotolia dont have the balls to tell me why. That I find more annoying than anything else. LOL.

ultimagina

« Reply #81 on: June 05, 2014, 07:55 »
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I read the story and I feel for you. I only replied to the dictatorship comment made by Beppe Grillo. Besides the topic.


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« Reply #82 on: June 05, 2014, 09:22 »
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Besides the topic, but what do you expect? Democracy in a private entreprise? There is no such thing. You don't get to vote who your boss is. You freewillingly join an entreprise, sign a contract, do what your boss asks you to do, resign if you don't want to do it or get fired, sue them if the ask is illegal. It never was an it will never be a democracy.


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The frustration is very heavy, and beppes comment was really around behaviors with our content. We can pull that content....sometimes fully...but the result is loss of income and for some of us that's important. Most if us are very angry that FT is shunning their suppliers in exchange for cheating practices.  What is cheating you may ask? How about calling DPC a subscription site when it is od but they pay us sub prices.  We have every right to vent and share our frustrations and call them for what they are.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2014, 13:35 by Mantis »

ultimagina

« Reply #83 on: June 05, 2014, 13:08 »
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If these corporations were not corporations but countries we could call them dictatorships

Besides the topic, but what do you expect? Democracy in a private enterprise? There is no such thing. You don't get to vote who your boss is. You free-willingly join an enterprise, sign a contract, do what your boss asks you to do, resign if you don't want to do it or get fired, sue them if the ask is illegal. It never was an it will never be a democracy.

I couldn't quote from this Tapatalk app, so here is the missing quote from a PC

Not that I care, but it looks funny to see -6 for an obviously true statement. All "corporations" exercise their "muscles" against individuals since the age of time, in all societies. This is called downsizing, re-organization, firing, dismissal, etc.

Nobody likes these things, but this doesn't make my statement false. This is why I don't understand people giving a minus to a true statement.  >:( What do you expect "minus people"? Lies that make you feel good?  :o

One more time, I am sorry to see Ron being punished for speaking up.

« Last Edit: June 05, 2014, 15:44 by ultimagaina »

« Reply #84 on: June 05, 2014, 13:46 »
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If these corporations were not corporations but countries we could call them dictatorships

Besides the topic, but what do you expect? Democracy in a private enterprise? There is no such thing. You don't get to vote who your boss is. You free-willingly join an enterprise, sign a contract, do what your boss asks you to do, resign if you don't want to do it or get fired, sue them if the ask is illegal. It never was an it will never be a democracy.

I couldn't quote from this Tapatak app, so here is the missing quote from a PC

Not that I care, but it looks funny to see -6 for an obviously true statement. All "corporations" exercise their "muscles" against individuals since the age of time, in all societies. This is called downsizing, re-organization, firing, dismissal, etc.

Nobody likes these things, but this doesn't make my statement false. This is why I don't understand people giving a minus to a true statement.  >:( What do you expect "minus people"? Lies that make you feel good?  :o

One more time, I am sorry to see Ron being punished for speaking up.

FYI I didn't vote you down.

But I would also say that there is a reciprocal to your scenario. It's the company stealing from and manipulating their suppliers. There should be legal action against Fotolia but most of us, if not all, do not have the financial means to tackle this and Fotolia knows it, so Oleg keeps smoking his f@cking cigars and laughing at the situation. By the way by opting in all images into a completely new site should technically have shut down FT legally I believe. By not informing ALL contributors of an opt out option he is forcing our content into a scheme we did not sign up for. He's a crook and this discussion should be about how to stop him, shut down DPC and make restitution to contributors who were blindly forced into this scheme and to this day have no idea their images are being used.

All that you say is true, though. But this really isn't a case of a corporation parting ways with a supplier, it's a corporation trying to punish suppliers for exposing corruption.....FOTOLIA's corruption.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2014, 13:49 by Mantis »

ultimagina

« Reply #85 on: June 05, 2014, 16:03 »
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FYI I didn't vote you down.

But I would also say that there is a reciprocal to your scenario. It's the company stealing from and manipulating their suppliers. There should be legal action against Fotolia but most of us, if not all, do not have the financial means to tackle this and Fotolia knows it, so Oleg keeps smoking his f@cking cigars and laughing at the situation. By the way by opting in all images into a completely new site should technically have shut down FT legally I believe. By not informing ALL contributors of an opt out option he is forcing our content into a scheme we did not sign up for. He's a crook and this discussion should be about how to stop him, shut down DPC and make restitution to contributors who were blindly forced into this scheme and to this day have no idea their images are being used.

All that you say is true, though. But this really isn't a case of a corporation parting ways with a supplier, it's a corporation trying to punish suppliers for exposing corruption.....FOTOLIA's corruption.

Right! And I'm with you on this.

But when it comes to breaking the relation with a partner,  there is nothing really Fotolia specific. All companies do this, either according to a contractual clauses, or not.
If not, the individual can always sue the company independently or through an union, if part of it.

I've fired once a a guy because he came in the office arrogantly wearing a competitor's t-shirt. He refused to go home and change it, arguing that he lives in a "free country".

I'm sorry, a company is not a democracy.

Ron

« Reply #86 on: June 05, 2014, 16:15 »
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Fotolia paid my earnings. Quicker then any other time they paid out. I guess they really wanted to get rid of me. LOL.

Chad still not telling me why. Maybe I should email these guys and ask:

chad@fotolia.com, pat@fotolia.com, ralph@fotolia.com, invoice@fotolia.com, domain@fotolia.com, michael@fotolia.com, pickmecause@fotolia.com, contest@fotolia.com, jennifer@fotolia.com, Julie@fotolia.com, david@fotolia.com, oleg@fotolia.com, Mat.Hayward@Fotolia.com

« Reply #87 on: June 05, 2014, 16:40 »
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Fotolia paid my earnings. Quicker then any other time they paid out. I guess they really wanted to get rid of me. LOL.

Chad still not telling me why. Maybe I should email these guys and ask:

chad@fotolia.com, pat@fotolia.com, ralph@fotolia.com, invoice@fotolia.com, domain@fotolia.com, michael@fotolia.com, pickmecause@fotolia.com, contest@fotolia.com, jennifer@fotolia.com, Julie@fotolia.com, david@fotolia.com, oleg@fotolia.com, Mat.Hayward@Fotolia.com

Nice list. I'm sure mat could let you know.

« Reply #88 on: June 05, 2014, 17:07 »
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Fotolia paid my earnings. Quicker then any other time they paid out. I guess they really wanted to get rid of me. LOL.

Chad still not telling me why. Maybe I should email these guys and ask:

chad@fotolia.com, pat@fotolia.com, ralph@fotolia.com, invoice@fotolia.com, domain@fotolia.com, michael@fotolia.com, pickmecause@fotolia.com, contest@fotolia.com, jennifer@fotolia.com, Julie@fotolia.com, david@fotolia.com, oleg@fotolia.com, Mat.Hayward@Fotolia.com

Haha, we could also e-mail these guys our opinions, that DPC is bad and unnecessary idea and they should not support it :D
Just to keep them entertained.

« Reply #89 on: June 06, 2014, 04:31 »
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^ still it doesn't make it right. Any corporation that uses it's 'muscle' to try administer punitive actions against a specific individual sucks.

With their actions Fotolia have firmly established themselves as the new bottom feeders in this business, and that's saying something when you consider some of the other scum-bag corps out there.

At this point I can only hope that Fotolia reaps what it sows. Can you imagine the fun we'd have with the thread....FOTOLIA CLOSES ITS DOORS. And poor Oleg would have to find a way to live on his meager multiple millions of dollars while his employees are now unemployed.

Batman

« Reply #90 on: June 09, 2014, 16:31 »
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If you had read my comments, you would have known I was expecting it in someway. I am not playing the victim card in any way.

PS: I have emailed Chad about 5 times to get a reason, but he is ignoring the question which I find childish. Big bad Fotolia dont have the balls to tell me why. That I find more annoying than anything else. LOL.

Did IS tell you why they close your account?

Ron

« Reply #91 on: June 09, 2014, 17:06 »
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No, I told IS why I closed my account there. Skumzak.

Milinz

« Reply #92 on: June 09, 2014, 19:12 »
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Fotolia paid my earnings. Quicker then any other time they paid out. I guess they really wanted to get rid of me. LOL.

Chad still not telling me why. Maybe I should email these guys and ask:

chad@fotolia.com, pat@fotolia.com, ralph@fotolia.com, invoice@fotolia.com, domain@fotolia.com, michael@fotolia.com, pickmecause@fotolia.com, contest@fotolia.com, jennifer@fotolia.com, Julie@fotolia.com, david@fotolia.com, oleg@fotolia.com, Mat.Hayward@Fotolia.com

Haha, we could also e-mail these guys our opinions, that DPC is bad and unnecessary idea and they should not support it :D
Just to keep them entertained.

Would they care or listen? FT is a dictatorship not trying to pretend to be a friendly agency. Money makes them all powerful.

« Reply #93 on: June 10, 2014, 02:13 »
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Fotolia paid my earnings. Quicker then any other time they paid out.

How long did you wait? I'm waiting now.

Ron

« Reply #94 on: June 10, 2014, 02:34 »
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Fotolia paid my earnings. Quicker then any other time they paid out.

How long did you wait? I'm waiting now.
Maybe 10 days or so

Milinz

« Reply #95 on: June 10, 2014, 09:51 »
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Fotolia paid my earnings. Quicker then any other time they paid out.

How long did you wait? I'm waiting now.

Almost 2 months but I had sales and 1000s of files, not 600 like Ron. Worth the wait to leave FT.

« Reply #96 on: June 17, 2014, 03:15 »
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I don't know what to think - had a phone call from FT, they asked me about the reason why I left and if I can come back!  :o  ::) ???

« Reply #97 on: June 17, 2014, 05:59 »
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I don't know what to think - had a phone call from FT, they asked me about the reason why I left and if I can come back!  :o  ::) ???

They are desperate. They play nice by sending these emails like they "truly care" but are STILL GLADLY GOING TO RIP YOU OFF LIKE THIS MODEL ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO DO.  If you are seeking opinions to your email, avoid them like the plague.

« Reply #98 on: June 17, 2014, 13:40 »
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I don't know what to think - had a phone call from FT, they asked me about the reason why I left and if I can come back!  :o  ::) ???

In almost every other case, I would think of this as a good sign. A business that wants to know why, if they messed up, things went wrong and if there's something they could do to improve is often a good one. These are the sorts of behaviors typically seen in someone that cares about the business, its long term prospects and that it meets its own high standards for performance.

I think that seeing how a business handles a messed up situation often tells you more about them than when everything is humming along smoothly.

However...

When a company has a long track record of just about every bad thing you can imagine in dealing with their suppliers (i.e. us) - the biggest and most recent sign being that they told contributors initially that they had to leave Fotolia to opt out of the DPC - I'd be inclined to view such contact negatively.

If a business only does the right thing under severe pressure, once the pressure's off, they'll likely revert to type and start mistreating suppliers again.

« Reply #99 on: June 17, 2014, 16:58 »
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They owe me 4,62 dollars since several weeks. Have not heard one word about it.


 

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