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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2008, 14:38 »
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out of 27
7 overabundant photo category
7 type of photograph

123 also knocked back 7 of them (which was much worse than usual, and I had been pleased with this batch, thought I done better than my average), anyway only 1 of their 7 was in the 14 refused by fotolia :(:(


« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2008, 17:35 »
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"The photographs in the Fotolia database are intended for sale as illustration of brochures, magazines, websites, and presentations. Your photographic work is excellent but does not meet the needs of the Fotolia customer base."

...well no sh*# Sherlock...I've re-dubbed the reviewer from "Atilla-the-Hun" to "Fotila-the-None"...this is really getting goofy...FOTOLIA, please make sure your reviewer is looking through the proper end of the microscope.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2008, 17:44 by anonymous »

« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2008, 18:29 »
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"The photographs in the Fotolia database are intended for sale as illustration of brochures, magazines, websites, and presentations. Your photographic work is excellent but does not meet the needs of the Fotolia customer base."

...well no sh*# Sherlock...I've re-dubbed the reviewer from "Atilla-the-Hun" to "Fotila-the-None"...this is really getting goofy...FOTOLIA, please make sure your reviewer is looking through the proper end of the microscope.

its like its istock's "this is not stock", feel like yelling at the monitor, Why the F*** is it selling so well elsewhere then???

« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2008, 02:53 »
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In last 3 days I had:

154 uploaded, 151 accepted, 3 rejected. Hm...

it is not Fotolia, it is your photos, I guess.

« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2008, 03:26 »
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In last 3 days I had:

154 uploaded, 151 accepted, 3 rejected. Hm...

it is not Fotolia, it is your photos, I guess.

I accept I still have a lot to learn :) and try and take rejections on the chin. I look for why it was rejected but when one sites rejects different images from others, you gain nothing from the rejection (I also accept what is art to one person is crap to another).  When that site is only one of many that rejects the image you have to start to say it is site.

I also find it frustrating when rejections are giving for essentially no meaning like 'overfiltered', or fotolias 'technical' problems which list any one of ten different things it could be.  Much like ss rejected 15 images for keywords, I then had to guess which word they didn't like, turned out to be 'image' but it took more rejections, wasting mine and the reviewers time and effort.  If they told me what was wrong i would have fixed it. Also like I said it is also frustrating to have good selling images refused for not being stock.  My 8 highest earning images have been refused from istock as they are 'not stock'. Like I said I have a lot to learn, I just dislike have to guess at what my mistakes are :)

Phil

oh, and obvisously only half my little rant is about fotolia :)
« Last Edit: January 31, 2008, 03:29 by rustyphil »

« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2008, 06:30 »
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with FT i have had three problems: rejections due to bad lightning. they were right, i was wrong. No more rejections due to bad lightning. rejections of backgrounds: I can't predict and I can't understand how they evaluate which background is suitable for them and which is not. Still most are accepted. Third is low payments per dl. If StockXpert will start producing much more dls than FT, I will stop uploading to FT because of the low payments per dl. their pricing is not fair.


« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2008, 07:59 »
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In last 3 days I had:

154 uploaded, 151 accepted, 3 rejected. Hm...

it is not Fotolia, it is your photos, I guess.

since you're "exclusive" there, you likely get a little extra special treatment..(sarcasm intended)
« Last Edit: January 31, 2008, 08:27 by anonymous »

« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2008, 08:24 »
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I actually went off a little bit on FT a couple of months ago in an email to them. Between the hours of 11 and 5 (EST) I had a 10% approval ratio. Everything reviewed outside of that time frame had about and 85-90% acceptance ratio. The discrepancy even included images from the same batches. I made a very polite (if you believe that) suggestion that they make sure their reviewers were on the same page and that anyone rejecting photos arbitrarily to clean up his backlog be dealt with in a stern manner. Don't know if they really paid any attention, but my rejections have been somewhat more consistent and predictable in the last month or so.

« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2008, 08:32 »
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I actually went off a little bit on FT a couple of months ago in an email to them. Between the hours of 11 and 5 (EST) I had a 10% approval ratio.

..was that am or pm? ...if it's am, that's when I've received the weird and goofy rejects...

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« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2008, 08:53 »
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In last 3 days I had:

154 uploaded, 151 accepted, 3 rejected. Hm...

it is not Fotolia, it is your photos, I guess.
This remark comes across as elitist. Did you intend it to sound this way?

The reason I started this topic is because I've had close to a very high acceptance rate (90-100%?) at Fotolia over the past several months. Fotolia is my third highest earner of 11 sites and I like them.

However, a few weeks ago, I started getting random high rejections (50%+) on certain batches. Mostly for "similar images". While the images may have been similar in subject, they were not just a slight different angle of the same subject. They were two completely different scenes with similar objects.

Since the rejections seemed inconsistent from batch to batch my guess is they have a new reviewer.

« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2008, 09:33 »
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Since the rejections seemed inconsistent from batch to batch my guess is they have a new reviewer.

That must be Atilla the Grim Reviewer. He wanders from site to site, gloomily and spooky quaerens quem devoret. He lives on the blood of submitters and he can only be satisfied by a number of weird and queer rejects like this is not commercial. Some days he's around DT, some days he's around SS, some days around FT.

Once in a while you will run into him. That's part of the miserable mortal stocker's life.

On Topic: I would never upload batches containing variations of the same subject. Mix those over successive batches. Reviewers are human too, and they like some variety.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2008, 09:37 by FlemishDreams »

« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2008, 15:38 »
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He lives on the blood of submitters and he can only be satisfied by a number of weird and queer rejects like this is not commercial. Some days he's around DT, some days he's around SS, some days around FT.

He's been known to haunt StockXpert submitters too, saying "Thank you, but we're not looking for this type of image".

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2008, 15:59 »
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I actually went off a little bit on FT a couple of months ago in an email to them. Between the hours of 11 and 5 (EST) I had a 10% approval ratio. Everything reviewed outside of that time frame had about and 85-90% acceptance ratio. The discrepancy even included images from the same batches. I made a very polite (if you believe that) suggestion that they make sure their reviewers were on the same page and that anyone rejecting photos arbitrarily to clean up his backlog be dealt with in a stern manner. Don't know if they really paid any attention, but my rejections have been somewhat more consistent and predictable in the last month or so.

I can attest to this as well ...

The majority of my submissions to Fotolia are submitted in 11pm - 2am EST since I am on the West Coast of the US. Perhaps it is the "night shift" who is responsible for the unusual amount of rejections ...

Mark

« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2008, 17:06 »
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anonymus, for all my new images  I made (since 3 months ago) I am not exclusive on fotolia anymore.

« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2008, 17:15 »
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..was that am or pm? ...if it's am, that's when I've received the weird and goofy rejects...

That was 11 AM to 5 PM. Maybe you're getting him because their punishment was to put him on the midnight shift.  ;D

« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2008, 18:40 »
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I was about 90-95% acceptance rate on FT until today, all 15 rejected for Type of Photograph. Nearly all were approved on SS/IS/StockXpert/DT. Don't have much motivation to upload there since the income is low and uploading is a bit of a pain. Maybe the price increase will help motivate me.

« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2008, 06:35 »
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62 Rejections and only 5 approvals recently with 3 of those being basic illustrations ... :(

Oh well ... more work to be done :)


Mark

« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2008, 08:11 »
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anonymus, for all my new images  I made (since 3 months ago) I am not exclusive on fotolia anymore.

Well, you sure used to rave about how cool it was to be exclusive there...must not have worked out...

My point being (as Nazdravie commented earlier), your comment simply came off as snotty...
« Last Edit: February 01, 2008, 08:18 by anonymous »

« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2008, 21:19 »
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Wow - whats up at FT? Normally don't get many rejections.

Just had six rejected for 'non-conformity', does this look so bad for stock?


« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2008, 21:39 »
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Wow - whats up at FT? Normally don't get many rejections.

Just had six rejected for 'non-conformity', does this look so bad for stock?




Wow !!! Real sorry about your rejection... may be they have a new rule - reject everything that looks like water or flood filter?

I'm not uploading to FT for now...

« Reply #45 on: February 03, 2008, 00:27 »
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Wow - whats up at FT? Normally don't get many rejections.

Just had six rejected for 'non-conformity', does this look so bad for stock?




I can't believe your photo was rejected ...

I'm about ready to give up submitting to FT (I've REALLY been trying to look past the fact that it has one of the most tedious upload systems around)

I know I'm new, but I'm not that bad (but its sure starting to feel that way with whoever their new reviewers must be ).... 42 rejections since my last actual photo was approved.

Mark

« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2008, 18:35 »
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I don't feel so bad now.  I'm a digital fractal designer.  I used to have pretty good approval rating.  The past few months have been horrendous and I'm lucky to get maybe 1 out of a batch of 10 approved.  Over and over 10 out of 10 rejected for a variety of reasons.   And these 'rejections' are doing fabulous on all the other Microstock sites I submit to, including SS.

I'm just on the fence with them.  I used to like them, now I dread them.  All the work to upload just to keep getting rejected over and over.  Not to mention their uploading is buggy and the descriptions are now showing up as titles.  ???  I don't know what has happened to them, but I don't like it.  If it keeps up, considering the poor earnings per sale, I wouldn't be uploading there anymore.

« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2008, 19:55 »
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I confirm too, I have over 90% of acceptance at Fotolia and since 15 days only 20% in some batch...

I resubmit everything on another account on the French fotolia platform and they have been almost all accepted.

« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2008, 23:29 »
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That's strange. Fotolia has been pretty good to me (although the % of accepted images is the lowest) - but the reviews a fair if a bit biased toward "clean and pure" sometimes, and overall my acceptance rate is increasing rather than decreasing.

« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2008, 01:34 »
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42 rejections ... then finally an approval ! wooooo hooooo ....

oh wait 6 more images declined after that ....


Mark
(going to change my signature to "Frustrated at FT")

« Last Edit: February 07, 2008, 02:12 by mwp1969 »


 

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