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« Reply #225 on: July 31, 2013, 06:53 »
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In my opinion there is only one solution. Delete you images and stop uploading.I have stopped uploading already quite some time ago and have deleted hundreds of my images since yesterday. It's like Istock, you have to show that you will not tolerate this. I have images who have sold 350+ and are now being sold for pittance. I have deleted them. They can have my old stuff and I will sell my new and good ones elsewhere.


Ron

« Reply #226 on: July 31, 2013, 07:36 »
-1
Eh, uut Grunning  :)

« Reply #227 on: July 31, 2013, 09:48 »
+1
In my opinion there is only one solution. Delete you images and stop uploading.I have stopped uploading already quite some time ago and have deleted hundreds of my images since yesterday. It's like Istock, you have to show that you will not tolerate this. I have images who have sold 350+ and are now being sold for pittance. I have deleted them. They can have my old stuff and I will sell my new and good ones elsewhere.

Already deleting, 300 so far out of 1300

« Reply #228 on: July 31, 2013, 10:51 »
0
will delete - reupload work?


I have tried to do this one hour ago.

I have deleted the photo that is my best seller on SS, but with 0 sales and 2 views on FT [!!!!]
And then I have reuploaded it
Let's see if they will accept it
Yes you can try this, but now the images have to be accepted again.
I dropped fotolia long time ago, but I remember how silly the process is. And most important to me, is the fact that if you have a small portfolio you can perform this task but when you reach maybe 700/800 files, is time consuming, is a huge waste of time.

C'ho fatto una proposta che [questi picciotti] non possono rifiutare :D
(I made them an offer that they cannot refuse)

Baciamo le mani

(Thank you for the minus :) and my congratulation for the acute sense of humor :D )
The minus wasn't mine

« Reply #229 on: July 31, 2013, 18:20 »
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Hi there,

It sounds like either someone at support spoke out of turn or what they said was misunderstood.  Regardless, the information Mellimage shared is not true. 

If an image has not sold at least one time within six months it's price is reduced.  Photos do not need to sell 3 times every six months to maintain current pricing.  I would encourage you to go straight to the source for any questions like this: 
http://us.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/ImagesPricing

Thanks,

Mat


I had informed support as I had several images that were reduced in price even though  they sold within the past 6 months. The announcment states: images that haven't sold within 6 months will be reduced in price. etc.

The answer I received from support indicated that an image needs to be sold 3 Times within 6 months in order not to be reduced in price. (I knew it needed 3 sales to get back to minimal pricing (not the price you had previously set) after a reduction) - but I did not read their statement as meaning if an image does not sell three times within 6 months it will be reduced in price.

With the search engine as it is - and the market situation as it is (and the results research has shown) - I am pretty sure sooner or later 80%+ of the images will be locked in price at the 1-6 credits price range (and I am pretty sure if that does not go fast enough search engine tweaks will ensure that this applies to pretty much the whole FT collection sooner or later).  This is a step this specifically will target gold status contributors and higher, exclusive contributors as well as contributors who provided image exclusive content - for as long as they set the base price to their images at 2 and higher. They see the largest reductions in income on existing files.

My personal consequence from this is - no uploading to FT of any new images for the time being - and removing files who sell well elsewhere. Further steps to be considered.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

« Reply #230 on: July 31, 2013, 20:03 »
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Hi Mat, too bad it took you a week to show up here and talk about this matter, anyway I am glad you did it, cheers :)

can you tell us if there is a bug that is reducing pricing on files that have sold before the 6 months period, I have literally tons of them

the following is quite confusing as well, if we need just 1 sale, why is FT talking about 3 sales? is it that 3 sales make it back to the regular price? 1 or 2 won't?

We hope that this new pricing for unsold images will help increase sales for these images. Once the image has sold 3 times, the contributor will have the ability to reset his image price once again.

thanks in advance!
« Last Edit: July 31, 2013, 20:16 by luissantos84 »

lisafx

« Reply #231 on: July 31, 2013, 22:59 »
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Hi there,

It sounds like either someone at support spoke out of turn or what they said was misunderstood.  Regardless, the information Mellimage shared is not true. 

If an image has not sold at least one time within six months it's price is reduced.  Photos do not need to sell 3 times every six months to maintain current pricing.  I would encourage you to go straight to the source for any questions like this:  http://us.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/ImagesPricing

Thanks,

Mat



Thanks for clearing that up Mat.  :)  Somewhat good news. 

« Reply #232 on: August 01, 2013, 01:04 »
+1
So let's check if I understood well :
For new files :
1. I upload a new file on 1st January :   regular price
2. After 6 months, it has sold 1x :  price stays the same
3. After 6 months, it has not sold at all :  price goes down
4. If the price has gone down, it needs to sell 3x, and then the price will AUTOMATICALLY go up again.
Question for (4) :  does it need to sell 3x IN 6 MONTHS?  Or just 3x ?
For old files :
1. An old file has sold at least 1x the last 6 months :  regular price   (IS THIS CORRECT??)
2. An old file has not sold the last 6 months :   price goes down
3. If the price is down, it needs to sell 3x for the price to go up again = AUTOMATICALLY
Same question here :  does it need to sell 3x in 6 months, or just 3x ?

 

gillian vann

  • *Gillian*
« Reply #233 on: August 01, 2013, 01:53 »
+1
I don't think the price goes back up automatically, you have monitor all of that yourself.

um, what are they doing for their agency% if I have to manually go back, look for sellers and non-sellers, and keep adjusting the price (or deleting).

it's just way too time consuming.

« Reply #234 on: August 01, 2013, 01:57 »
+3
With my current earnings, it would be a complete waste of time for me to monitor what's sold and manually put the price back up.  They need to automate it or have a page where we can do it quickly.  I'm more inclined to just give up on them, as they've crippled my earnings and I've much better things to do.

« Reply #235 on: August 01, 2013, 02:35 »
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I don't think the price goes back up automatically, you have monitor all of that yourself.
um, what are they doing for their agency% if I have to manually go back, look for sellers and non-sellers, and keep adjusting the price (or deleting).
it's just way too time consuming.

Well, they SAY it will go up AUTOMATICALLY.  See this quote :

Please note that after 6 months without a sale, content prices are automatically set to this price: XS = 1, S = 2, M = 3, L = 4, XL = 5, XXL = 6. If the file has sold 3 times or more, it will be automatically reset to the minimum price (see pricing chart below).

(I added the BOLD).  You can find the quote on this page :
http://www.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/ImagesPricing
 

« Reply #236 on: August 01, 2013, 02:43 »
+1
Hi there,

It sounds like either someone at support spoke out of turn or what they said was misunderstood.  Regardless, the information Mellimage shared is not true. 

If an image has not sold at least one time within six months it's price is reduced.  Photos do not need to sell 3 times every six months to maintain current pricing.  I would encourage you to go straight to the source for any questions like this:  http://us.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/ImagesPricing

Thanks,

Mat



Just as an info - I translated directly what German support told me - I have asked for further clarification as their own Website does not make this clear - have not heard from them since.

« Reply #237 on: August 01, 2013, 03:07 »
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So let's check if I understood well :
For new files :
1. I upload a new file on 1st January :   regular price
2. After 6 months, it has sold 1x :  price stays the same
3. After 6 months, it has not sold at all :  price goes down
4. If the price has gone down, it needs to sell 3x, and then the price will AUTOMATICALLY go up again.
Question for (4) :  does it need to sell 3x IN 6 MONTHS?  Or just 3x ?
For old files :
1. An old file has sold at least 1x the last 6 months :  regular price   (IS THIS CORRECT??)
2. An old file has not sold the last 6 months :   price goes down
3. If the price is down, it needs to sell 3x for the price to go up again = AUTOMATICALLY
Same question here :  does it need to sell 3x in 6 months, or just 3x ?

This is how I understood it as well, only that I'm unsure about new uploads. Do they start with the regular or the reduced pricing? Anybody who uploaded recently can clarify (I not uploading to them...)?

And to the bolded part above: as stated earlier in the thread, I do have two files fulfilling that condition (old file, one download within the past six month), one has regular pricing, one has reduced pricing.

However they mean to do it, there seem to be bugs in their processing...

Ron

« Reply #238 on: August 01, 2013, 03:09 »
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They create confusion deliberately so that nobody has any clue what is going on. Tactics. All agencies do it. I have never seen an announcement from an agency that was clear and understandable from the get go. It always leaves room for interpretation and many questions left unanswered.

« Reply #239 on: August 01, 2013, 03:21 »
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And to the bolded part above: as stated earlier in the thread, I do have two files fulfilling that condition (old file, one download within the past six month), one has regular pricing, one has reduced pricing.

However they mean to do it, there seem to be bugs in their processing...

Yep, that is my experience too. Implementation is inconsistent - to say the least.

« Reply #240 on: August 01, 2013, 07:06 »
+2
it is really annoying that agencies do this kind of stuff, changes are "inevitable" and unfortunately we cannot control that, it would make sense if agencies spent some time explaining us what is involved and clarify our doubts, I believe that is the minimum that we contributors deserve

Ron

« Reply #241 on: August 02, 2013, 02:21 »
+2
Just sold my first non seller for 4 credits. When I click on indexing it says


Quote
Due to low sales, you cannot modify the price until it sells at least 2 more times
After these sales, your content prices will be reset as follows:


But the actual pricing is different. So it is an automated process

« Reply #242 on: August 02, 2013, 20:36 »
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this is so annoying, so it's looks like mellimage was right.... Maybe next week we will know ::)
« Last Edit: August 02, 2013, 20:46 by luissantos84 »

« Reply #243 on: August 08, 2013, 05:14 »
+1
So let's check if I understood well :
For new files :
1. I upload a new file on 1st January :   regular price
2. After 6 months, it has sold 1x :  price stays the same
3. After 6 months, it has not sold at all :  price goes down
4. If the price has gone down, it needs to sell 3x, and then the price will AUTOMATICALLY go up again.
Question for (4) :  does it need to sell 3x IN 6 MONTHS?  Or just 3x ?
For old files :
1. An old file has sold at least 1x the last 6 months :  regular price   (IS THIS CORRECT??)
2. An old file has not sold the last 6 months :   price goes down
3. If the price is down, it needs to sell 3x for the price to go up again = AUTOMATICALLY
Same question here :  does it need to sell 3x in 6 months, or just 3x ?

This is how I understood it as well, only that I'm unsure about new uploads. Do they start with the regular or the reduced pricing? Anybody who uploaded recently can clarify (I not uploading to them...)?

And to the bolded part above: as stated earlier in the thread, I do have two files fulfilling that condition (old file, one download within the past six month), one has regular pricing, one has reduced pricing.

However they mean to do it, there seem to be bugs in their processing...

Well, their inconsistency in applying this new policy obviously goes both ways. I just had a sale with the old (regular) pricing (7 credits for a L size) of a file that has not sold for more than one year...

« Reply #244 on: August 08, 2013, 07:07 »
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They're changing it again...

By accident I found the following paragraph:

"Please note that after 6 months (180 days) without a sale, content prices are automatically set to minimum price (see pricing chart below). Afterwards, if the file sells 3 times in a period of 6 months, the contributor will once again be able to update their prices. After 24 months (720 days) without a sale, content prices are automatically set to these prices: XS = 1 Credit, S = 2 Credits, M = 3 Credits, L = 4 Credits, XL = 5 Credits, XXL = 6 Credits. Afterwards, if the file sells 3 times in a period of 24 months the content prices are set back to the minimum price (see pricing chart below). If these 3 sales are made in a period of 6 months, the contributor will once again be able to update their prices."

To be found here.

So now the six months only affect exclusive files or emerald or above contributors, reducing the price to the standard price starting with one credit for XS.

And every file is reduced in price if it is not sold for 24 months.

That all sounds a lot more reasonable to me. Not great, but way better than the first version.

« Reply #245 on: August 08, 2013, 07:22 »
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"Please note that after 6 months (180 days) without a sale, content prices are automatically set to minimum price (see pricing chart below). Afterwards, if the file sells 3 times in a period of 6 months, the contributor will once again be able to update their prices.

I have tons of files older than 6 months but sold after 6 months and before 24 months with reduced pricing, so the 3 times is official, again Mellimage was right and Mat wrong, this is becoming a gigantic joke and we deserve some respect, I am done discussing this matter, heading to the beach because this is pathetic and not worth the headache

« Reply #246 on: August 08, 2013, 17:49 »
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Forgive my ignorance here Luis, I don't get what you are saying.  Can you be more specific about what I said that wasn't true?  Please be sure to quote me verbatim. 

Thanks,

Mat

"Please note that after 6 months (180 days) without a sale, content prices are automatically set to minimum price (see pricing chart below). Afterwards, if the file sells 3 times in a period of 6 months, the contributor will once again be able to update their prices.

I have tons of files older than 6 months but sold after 6 months and before 24 months with reduced pricing, so the 3 times is official, again Mellimage was right and Mat wrong, this is becoming a gigantic joke and we deserve some respect, I am done discussing this matter, heading to the beach because this is pathetic and not worth the headache

« Reply #247 on: August 08, 2013, 18:23 »
+1
Hi there,

It sounds like either someone at support spoke out of turn or what they said was misunderstood.  Regardless, the information Mellimage shared is not true. 

If an image has not sold at least one time within six months it's price is reduced.  Photos do not need to sell 3 times every six months to maintain current pricing.  I would encourage you to go straight to the source for any questions like this:  http://us.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/ImagesPricing

« Reply #248 on: August 08, 2013, 19:07 »
+1
FT announcement on Jul 27th 2013






I have a ton like these, the last example shows that we really need 3 downloads every 6 months

« Reply #249 on: August 08, 2013, 19:13 »
-1
But what does the photo of dentures have to do ith the 3 sold photos of tissue?


 

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