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« Reply #250 on: August 08, 2013, 19:15 »
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But what does the photo of dentures have to do ith the 3 sold photos of tissue?

that one was sold 15 times, its just another example


« Reply #251 on: August 08, 2013, 19:28 »
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I have examples for everybody's taste, this one is a picture that haven't sold in over 10 months but still with the regular pricing


« Reply #252 on: August 09, 2013, 01:08 »
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OK, after reading the Fotolia price page 7 times, I think I've got it now :
 
Fotolia uses the word "minimum" price but really means the "standard" price = 1-3-5-7-8-10$
An image starts at the minimum/standard price (unless you're Emerald or higher, then you can double it from the start).

Let's call the lowest price (1-2-3-4-5-6) the "bottom price" :

A minimum/standard priced image only goes down to the bottom price if it did not sell at all in 24 months.
It needs 3 sales in 24 months to go back to minimum/standard price automatically.
(So this means that even seasonal photos still make a chance)
 
As for Emeralds or higher, who set their starting price at 2-6-10-14-16-20$ from the beginning :
If the image has not sold in 6 months at all, the price goes to minimum/standard price (not to the bottom price).
If it does not sell at all for 24 months, it will go to bottom price.
It needs 3 sales in 24 months to go back to minimum/standard price automatically.
It needs 3 sales in 6 months for the Emerald contributors (or higher) to be able to raise/double the price manually again.
 
(side note :  what's worse :  Fotolia setting non-sellers at bottom price after 24 months, or Dreamstime asking us to choose between "giving away for free" or deleting the image after 36 months?)

« Reply #253 on: August 09, 2013, 05:51 »
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Well I am non-exclusive bronze contributor at Fotolia and I have 2 images uploaded in May 2012 (so not yet 24 months old), which never sold. One of the images has the standard pricing (XS 1 until XL 8 ) and the other the reduced pricing (XS 1 to XL 5)...

« Reply #254 on: August 09, 2013, 07:24 »
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It needs 3 sales in 24 months to go back to minimum/standard price automatically.
(So this means that even seasonal photos still make a chance)

this isn't happening, if that is true there is a bug affecting thousands of files

« Reply #255 on: August 09, 2013, 07:28 »
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It needs 3 sales in 24 months to go back to minimum/standard price automatically.
(So this means that even seasonal photos still make a chance)

this isn't happening, if that is true there is a bug affecting thousands of files

Yes. That is what several people here are stating. What they write at their website and what they actually do are two different things.
And on top of that what they say they do (what's on their website) is constantly changing.
It's a mess.

« Reply #256 on: August 09, 2013, 07:45 »
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I looked up one of my best sellers on FT (hundreds of DL's) and it is nowhere to be found...buried in the doldrums to get it priced lower. I looked it up in my port and low and behold, the highest price was reset from 100 credits to 50.  What a bunch of greedy sponges over at FT.....and when I say FT I mean FOTOLIA!! I hope they fold soon, we can start an FUFT thread:) 

« Reply #257 on: August 09, 2013, 08:30 »
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It needs 3 sales in 24 months to go back to minimum/standard price automatically.
(So this means that even seasonal photos still make a chance)

this isn't happening, if that is true there is a bug affecting thousands of files

Yes. That is what several people here are stating. What they write at their website and what they actually do are two different things.
And on top of that what they say they do (what's on their website) is constantly changing.
It's a mess.

exactly...

lisafx

« Reply #258 on: August 09, 2013, 10:51 »
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OK, after reading the Fotolia price page 7 times, I think I've got it now :
 
Fotolia uses the word "minimum" price but really means the "standard" price = 1-3-5-7-8-10$
An image starts at the minimum/standard price (unless you're Emerald or higher, then you can double it from the start).

Let's call the lowest price (1-2-3-4-5-6) the "bottom price" :

A minimum/standard priced image only goes down to the bottom price if it did not sell at all in 24 months.
It needs 3 sales in 24 months to go back to minimum/standard price automatically.
(So this means that even seasonal photos still make a chance)
 
As for Emeralds or higher, who set their starting price at 2-6-10-14-16-20$ from the beginning :
If the image has not sold in 6 months at all, the price goes to minimum/standard price (not to the bottom price).
If it does not sell at all for 24 months, it will go to bottom price.
It needs 3 sales in 24 months to go back to minimum/standard price automatically.
It needs 3 sales in 6 months for the Emerald contributors (or higher) to be able to raise/double the price manually again.
 
(side note :  what's worse :  Fotolia setting non-sellers at bottom price after 24 months, or Dreamstime asking us to choose between "giving away for free" or deleting the image after 36 months?)

I have to admit after reading this thread my head was spinning.  Thanks, Anyka, for giving a clear, understandable explanation :)

OM

« Reply #259 on: August 09, 2013, 19:30 »
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The whole place is a mess anyway.  ;D

I used to be exclusive but dropped it to join SS last year and informed FT of my total non-exclusive status. Nevertheless, I still sold the occasional file that was priced at double credit value ( exclusive privilege) long after my exclusive status was terminated. They're confused, contributors are confused and no doubt the buyers are also confused.
Little point in trying to figure it out........when I reach payout, I cash out.....wash, rinse, repeat.

« Reply #260 on: September 30, 2013, 14:49 »
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Did they give up on this notion?  It dawned on me that commissions still look "normal" and even old files the never sold are at the normal price.

Ron

« Reply #261 on: September 30, 2013, 15:04 »
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Did they give up on this notion?  It dawned on me that commissions still look "normal" and even old files the never sold are at the normal price.
I noticed the same, but when you try to edit the pricing of an unsold file, you still cant. Its blocked, but the pricing looks like the normal one.

« Reply #262 on: September 30, 2013, 15:15 »
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Did they give up on this notion?  It dawned on me that commissions still look "normal" and even old files the never sold are at the normal price.

no, still on

« Reply #263 on: February 27, 2014, 15:28 »
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Old thread alert, but:

Did FT do away with those reduced prices for unsold content?
Today I had a first time sale of an old image (uploaded five years ago), and it sold for 6 credits for M size (that's the standard after their recent price changes).
Looking at other old images with zero sales the reduced pricing (1-2-3-4-5-6) does not seem to exist any more...

lisafx

« Reply #264 on: February 27, 2014, 16:27 »
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Old thread alert, but:

Did FT do away with those reduced prices for unsold content?
Today I had a first time sale of an old image (uploaded five years ago), and it sold for 6 credits for M size (that's the standard after their recent price changes).
Looking at other old images with zero sales the reduced pricing (1-2-3-4-5-6) does not seem to exist any more...

I had sales that were at 1 credit base as recently as this morning.

« Reply #265 on: February 27, 2014, 17:38 »
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Old thread alert, but:

Did FT do away with those reduced prices for unsold content?
Today I had a first time sale of an old image (uploaded five years ago), and it sold for 6 credits for M size (that's the standard after their recent price changes).
Looking at other old images with zero sales the reduced pricing (1-2-3-4-5-6) does not seem to exist any more...

I had sales that were at 1 credit base as recently as this morning.

My bad, I wasn't precise enough. I am not talking about the ability to set higher base prices (which is available from emerald on for non-exclusive).

In addition to setting unsold files back to base price they did lower the prices for content without sales in two years.

Instead of the usual prices of 1-3-5-7-8-10 (for XS-S-M-L-XL-XXL) those were lowered to 1-2-3-4-5-6 (that was talked about in this thread).

That does not seem to be the case any more.

Maybe that was done together with their recent (small) price increase.

lisafx

« Reply #266 on: February 27, 2014, 18:41 »
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Very good to know Dirk.  I guess because both price changes happened at the same time I didnt remember there was a difference.  Any improvement in fotolia pricing is welcome news. Maybe they will eventually stop downgrading two credit files.  The lower prices never resulted in higher sales for me.  Quite the opposite.

« Reply #267 on: February 27, 2014, 19:28 »
+1
Any strategy to get pricing up is good so long as

1. Customers don't defect to DP
2. They don't lower out royalties to keep a bigger share of the higher pricing

Knowing FT I suspect the latter is a realistic possibility.


 

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