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« on: July 11, 2016, 10:11 »
+5
I've seen a great improvement in terms of sale and price of each sale I get as a contributor on FT and this is far better than what I get on SS. The sales on SS are also dead slow these days. I guess this is happening since the Adobe took over the company. The poll results on right can surprise us in coming days..


« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2016, 10:20 »
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LOL, wish much???
looking to the right, 36 is not even ahead of alamy
and you're already rooting that Foto whatever is going to cross SS???

last i recall, that's what they said about alamy.

first get past istock, then we can talk about catching up close enough to see ss bumper 8)

« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2016, 10:23 »
+2
There are always individual cases but in general when i look on the right ss is far ahead of fotolia. If ever something will happen, what i doubt, maybe in coming years. Ss is leader for many many years and until now nobody came even close. There is shutterstock and the rest fighting for second spot.

« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2016, 10:24 »
+5
My sales with FT are still almost dead.  They seem to be good for some people but not for others.  So until they are good for all of us, I don't see how they can possibly overtake SS in the poll here.

« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2016, 10:24 »
+2
 :o for me FT earnings are only around 10% of SS.

« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2016, 10:34 »
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For me, I earned more on SS than FT only the first two months, when I started with this. After that, FT was my #1 earner, even with less sales.  Although, June and July are very poor for me on FT...

« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2016, 10:55 »
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FL would have to more than double to overtake SS for me.

« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2016, 10:59 »
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For me, I earned more on SS than FT only the first two months, when I started with this. After that, FT was my #1 earner, even with less sales.  Although, June and July are very poor for me on FT...

Fotolia is doing better in terms of price most of the time. I get $1 on average for each sale while on SS I hardly get $1.8 or $0.88 sale. Most of the time they are $25 on ss.

Finally, fotolia crossed IS and will bash Alamy too in few weeks...

« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2016, 11:08 »
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Could be individually, but for me FT is still far behind. I do enjoy their nice commissions and higher RPD but I don't believe it will last too long (too good to be true :) )

« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2016, 11:31 »
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Ft not my favorite. Just remember all that ****
DC, close contributor accounts for no reason or close accounts for MSG posts and..

« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2016, 11:40 »
+4
First, they have to get past the Bigstock juggernaut.  ;)

« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2016, 12:30 »
+1
First, they have to get past the Bigstock juggernaut.  ;)

objectively and financially speaking, every single one to the right of leaf's poll which has been around since IS and SS
should all been thrown into the dumpster.
technically, if you don't make an impact after the 6th year , you should pack it in.
.. like dt, ft, crestock, canstock, scanstock,alamy,123,veer,even big... add your own menu...
forget it... put them all in a wooden box and bury them.

i am not subscribing to the new elitist flavor of the moment but i will give them 5 years to see
them past IS...
-canva
-stocksy
etc

personally, i wish them well, because yes, even though i make regular payout like many here,
i see a drop since oringer sold shares to the scavengers in wall street...
and it would be healthy not to give ss the monopoly ...
until they get out of wall street.

...and more importantly, i see 28 , 85, 102 bucks single earnings back on my daily account again.
(but i won't be the one holding my breath ).


« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2016, 13:03 »
+4
Two observations.

You have 600-ish images on SS and 1,000-ish on FT. It would be a more useful comparison if you had the same numbers on both.

You should check your spellings on images with words - It's laundry not laundery, sugar not suger (it has the word alert in there too which is why I assume it's supposed to be English) entrepreneur not entreprenour

« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2016, 13:18 »
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FT has been inching closer and closer to matching my earnings on SS. This month, it may actually surpass it. FT revenue is currently about 15% higher than SS for the month of July, but we're only a third into the month. I have a similar size portfolio on both websites.

I won't say that FT is going to be like that for everyone, because everyone has a different portfolio. For me, things are looking pretty even at the moment. Once I hit Emerald tier, I have no doubt it'll surpass SS.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2016, 13:23 by Minsc »

« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2016, 14:19 »
+1
FT ahead of SS in terms of sales has been my experience for the past 8 months. Right now (1/3 into the month of July) my sales in FT are almost twice my sales on SS. I have about the same number of images in both, around 400, all photos.

Chichikov

« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2016, 14:22 »
0
I've seen a great improvement in terms of sale and price of each sale I get as a contributor on FT and this is far better than what I get on SS. The sales on SS are also dead slow these days. I guess this is happening since the Adobe took over the company. The poll results on right can surprise us in coming days..

Did you smoke the moquette?

« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2016, 15:05 »
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FT is about 20-25% of my SS earning, but it is going up.

« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2016, 19:10 »
0
Based on what I'm seeing, FT has better overall RPI...like 50% more return per image. My FT downloads are 2/3 of what get on SS, but the revenue is similar. SS has bigger single downloads which continue to push beyond expectations.

I don't think my FT download numbers can match my SS download numbers in the long term, so I think there is more potential with SS. I also feel like I'm going to hit a wall on FT soon since I don't know how much higher I can climb on the weekly ranks.

w7lwi

  • Those that don't stand up to evil enable evil.
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2016, 20:55 »
+1
There was a time SS was the undisputed leader for me.  No other site even came close.  Today, those times have come and gone.  For my situation, FT has been erratic.  Some months they exceed SS (in dollars because that's the ultimate bottom line for most of us).  Other times they fall quite a bit short.  Using the first 11 days of July as an example, and SS as my benchmark, FT is presently running about 1/3 of SS earnings.  Last month, they were about 10% higher.  Note I do have a smaller portfolio on FT as I've only been with them about a year.  As SS sales have been steadily coming down, other sites have been rising, in my case most notably Canva.  Since July 1, they are now better than 300% of SS sales and they typically outsell SS on a month-to-month basis.  And in this case I only have a portfolio roughly 25% the size of the one I have on SS.  Also beating SS this month has been 123RF.  However, this is an outlier, most likely due to a PEL sale and I expect total earnings to fall below SS by month's end.

As I said, this is only my experience and is likely unique to me.  The images I send to Canva are mostly tailored to their client base.  I usually send the same images to SS and other sites, but since no one else takes PNG images, these must all be submitted as isolated JPEG's.   Bottom line, if and until SS shakes off the typical lethargy that seems to come from going public, other sites with innovative ideas and approaches will continue to grow and nip at their heels until they inevitably overtake the leader.  Then it becomes a question of whether SS can rise like a Phoenix once again, or go the way of other sites before it into mediocrity and stagnation.

« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2016, 05:44 »
+4
I've got a big port on all the agencies.  I've been doing this for quite some time.  Despite sales being down across the board due to a huge increase in collection sizes everywhere, I have enough data to see clear trend lines.

Just giving you background for what I'm about to say.

FT/AS will overtake SS at some point.  I said it here late last year after I met with some Adobe Stock people.  They are extremely bright people, tying their stock business to their software in ways that make a lot of sense.  They are in microstock to win, and to me it's clear that in the end they will.  It may not be this year, but they will end up the #1 agency. 
« Last Edit: July 12, 2016, 05:54 by stockmarketer »

« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2016, 05:48 »
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Also beating SS this month has been 123RF.  However, this is an outlier, most likely due to a PEL sale and I expect total earnings to fall below SS by month's end.

Yes, 123RF is the other major player on the rise.  Not too long ago I said they had crossed into Top Tier.  They will be the #3 agency before long. 

« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2016, 09:05 »
+2
I've got a big port on all the agencies.  I've been doing this for quite some time.  Despite sales being down across the board due to a huge increase in collection sizes everywhere, I have enough data to see clear trend lines.

Just giving you background for what I'm about to say.

FT/AS will overtake SS at some point.  I said it here late last year after I met with some Adobe Stock people.  They are extremely bright people, tying their stock business to their software in ways that make a lot of sense.  They are in microstock to win, and to me it's clear that in the end they will.  It may not be this year, but they will end up the #1 agency.

+1 FT have been No1 for me for just over a year now. Not just a bit but by a several hundred $'s p/m. Their search seems to work well, new images seem to get a fair chance and I'm hoping the video side picks up as much as the stills. They are responsive when I have a question, non of this waiting so long that you've forgotten what . you asked (SS). Hopefully they continue this good progress!!!

gyllens

« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2016, 09:50 »
+2
FT has been inching closer and closer to matching my earnings on SS. This month, it may actually surpass it. FT revenue is currently about 15% higher than SS for the month of July, but we're only a third into the month. I have a similar size portfolio on both websites.

I won't say that FT is going to be like that for everyone, because everyone has a different portfolio. For me, things are looking pretty even at the moment. Once I hit Emerald tier, I have no doubt it'll surpass SS.

Not too sure hitting emerald will result in any increase at all. I remember Lisa wrote something about once you get to that level the sort order will not be in your favour. I know as a Gold I was earning almost double of what I'm getting now and I am not the only one.

« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2016, 09:59 »
+2
fotolia less than 10% of SS that sais everything


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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2016, 11:33 »
+2
fotolia less than 10% of SS that sais everything


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Yeah, it says that you don't have the right kind of photos for FT customers.

« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2016, 12:41 »
+1
Not too sure hitting emerald will result in any increase at all. I remember Lisa wrote something about once you get to that level the sort order will not be in your favour. I know as a Gold I was earning almost double of what I'm getting now and I am not the only one.

I'll know when I get there. I haven't seen a conspiracy theory that amounts to reality yet, so I'm not too concerned about it. I'm looking forward to Emerald to set my own prices for my images.

« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2016, 20:40 »
+4
I don't see Fotolia passing SS anytime soon, but my sales there have probably doubled since Adobe took over.

« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2016, 01:37 »
0
I don't see Fotolia passing SS anytime soon, but my sales there have probably doubled since Adobe took over.
. Mine were doing very well but fell back after last couple of months but don't know if its a trend or a blip

« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2016, 02:05 »
+2
For me FT is almost the same as SS untill now this month. Last month was close too.
It's not because FT sells more, but because SS is unusual low, even for summer period.

For 2016 till now FT is about 2/3 of SS.

« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2016, 10:35 »
+5
I don't see Fotolia passing SS anytime soon, but my sales there have probably doubled since Adobe took over.

My prediction was hard to believe but thanks to SS Engineers they are making it true by giving 3-4 flaws on site every week. You can see changed stats on the right too :)

Chichikov

« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2016, 07:01 »
+3
"Fotolia will soon cross SS in Top Tier list"

In your dreams

gyllens

« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2016, 11:15 »
+3
They wont even come close. They had the chance after just merging with Adobe to turn it in to something good but instead they went back to the old tricks of Oleg. They blew it.

« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2016, 11:44 »
+2
Not leaving out editorial.......

« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2016, 14:49 »
+3
They are gaining month on month for me. They are now making more than half what SS does, they used to do about a quarter. They have only just started fully integrating with adobe cloud. I predict in two years they will be the market leaders.

« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2016, 15:15 »
+9
I think if they accepted editorial, it would greatly draw new customers and drive sales

« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2016, 17:37 »
+2
FT/Adobe has soared past Istock/Getty this year.  They have gone from 1/4 SS to almost 3/4 SS. 

And to anyone complaining about playing games with the search when you hit emerald, if that was ever true, it isn't anymore, at least I'm not seeing it as emerald.   Adobe doesn't seem to be rigging the system like FT used to.

« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2016, 14:54 »
0
FT has been on fire for me. It was on pace to surpassing SS in August, but by some miracle, I set a best day record and had a large sale on the last day of the month that put SS up by a few dollars.

Based on my sales patterns, SS put up some really high download numbers, but FT put up some high RPI. Despite the lower download numbers, it's still able to match SS.

They've been neck and neck for months. I'm seeing some strong growth on both sites and I'm happy with the performance of both sites.

« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2016, 15:49 »
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Yep! Last month I had a FT BME accounting for about 1/2 from my SS revenue.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2016, 18:23 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2016, 16:54 »
+2
FT/Adobe has soared past Istock/Getty this year.  They have gone from 1/4 SS to almost 3/4 SS. 

And to anyone complaining about playing games with the search when you hit emerald, if that was ever true, it isn't anymore, at least I'm not seeing it as emerald.   Adobe doesn't seem to be rigging the system like FT used to.

could it be due to the latest f***ups with our portfolios vanishing that made clients of ss
look to fotolia???  istock-ers did not report a surge of sales during that period
so it can only have gone to fotolia. .. i think.
I think if they accepted editorial, it would greatly draw new customers and drive sales

ss editorial isn't really on fire , either... so that could not be an impetus for fotolia.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2016, 17:03 »
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FT/Adobe has soared past Istock/Getty this year.  They have gone from 1/4 SS to almost 3/4 SS. 

And to anyone complaining about playing games with the search when you hit emerald, if that was ever true, it isn't anymore, at least I'm not seeing it as emerald.   Adobe doesn't seem to be rigging the system like FT used to.

could it be due to the latest f***ups with our portfolios vanishing that made clients of ss look to fotolia???  istock-ers did not report a surge of sales during that period
so it can only have gone to fotolia. .. i think.
In theory, if they had gone to iS and got subs, we wouldn't know if it had impacted our sales as subs for August haven't been reported yet.
Not saying there will be any actual boost at iS, obviously.

« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2016, 21:20 »
+1
FT/Adobe has soared past Istock/Getty this year.  They have gone from 1/4 SS to almost 3/4 SS. 

And to anyone complaining about playing games with the search when you hit emerald, if that was ever true, it isn't anymore, at least I'm not seeing it as emerald.   Adobe doesn't seem to be rigging the system like FT used to.
could it be due to the latest f***ups with our portfolios vanishing that made clients of ss
look to fotolia???  istock-ers did not report a surge of sales during that period
so it can only have gone to fotolia. .. i think.
I think if they accepted editorial, it would greatly draw new customers and drive sales

This makes a lot of sense.  I don't think anyone is going from SS to IS, but Adobe is a very easy and appealing  way for customers to add photos to their projects.



« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2016, 07:23 »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzLTbByAryo&list=PL5JIQFdhtvjbGMbvK96fVAazpKxgz6i49&index=9&sdid=V2XYKZKL&mv=social

Interesting I'm not a "user" so I don't know how this experience compares with using S Stock but I can see how this might be a benefit.

« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2016, 14:22 »
+1
could it be due to the latest f***ups with our portfolios vanishing that made clients of ss
look to fotolia???  istock-ers did not report a surge of sales during that period
so it can only have gone to fotolia. .. i think.

I don't think the clients even noticed. If one portfolio disappears, they'll just download images from another contributor on SS.

FT has been getting quite a bit of exposure because of Adobe. Previously, many buyers wasn't even aware of FT, but they now know what Adobe Stock is because of the close integration with Adobe products.

FT/Adobe Stock will only gain more traction from here on out. It's a good agency to be part of because they're currently in a growth phase...while iStock and DT continue their fall into oblivion.

« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2016, 01:42 »
+1
my sales on fotolia started to pickup again good levels since 2014

« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2016, 10:36 »
0
My sales on FT improved a LOT, but it's still far away from SS. Problem is that contribs are drawing world-wide conclusions from smallish, kinda' lcv ports.

« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2016, 15:10 »
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New sales emails layout and style...


Why?

« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2016, 15:10 »
0
Ignore the "why?"


Why?

« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2016, 15:17 »
+1
Ignore the "why?"


Why?

Why not remove it from your signature? It's confusing to everyone who reads your posts. And you waste your time telling people that it's not part of your post.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2016, 04:59 by Minsc »

« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2016, 15:28 »
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Can't find it on my cell.


Why?

« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2016, 21:46 »
+2
Something funky going on with Fotolia notifications.  It's now saying "Content Sold" as the title of the site mail instead of "Fotolia  File Sold".  Don't know if that indicates something.

« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2016, 22:20 »
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Something funky going on with Fotolia notifications.  It's now saying "Content Sold" as the title of the site mail instead of "Fotolia  File Sold".  Don't know if that indicates something.


I got some of those today, too. Wonder what's up.

« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2016, 00:10 »
+3
Nothing,  they changed review notification to. Just new design. I love it!

« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2016, 04:04 »
0
There were days when istock were the king!  I'm happy to see them fall

« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2016, 08:27 »
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Something funky going on with Fotolia notifications.  It's now saying "Content Sold" as the title of the site mail instead of "Fotolia  File Sold".  Don't know if that indicates something.

Check attached notification:
Does it mean that my photo was sold in Japan or something?

« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2016, 08:35 »
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Nothing,  they changed review notification to. Just new design. I love it!

I kind of hope something is up...I hope they get rid of the fotolia brand totally and just use the adobe brand. I like the new design, too. The old sales notifications sometimes had the price the image sold for, not my commission. I am ok with seeing that, but I want to know how much I made on the sale, too.

« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2016, 09:23 »
+1
Something funky going on with Fotolia notifications.  It's now saying "Content Sold" as the title of the site mail instead of "Fotolia  File Sold".  Don't know if that indicates something.

Check attached notification:
Does it mean that my photo was sold in Japan or something?

That would be my guess, too.  I've had some of those indicating credits in foreign languages with the new design and I assume it is indicating the language of the country where they sold.  Interesting new twist.  Hope to see a lot more!

« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2016, 13:41 »
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Nothing,  they changed review notification to. Just new design. I love it!

I kind of hope something is up...I hope they get rid of the fotolia brand totally and just use the adobe brand.

That would be ok by me, but I only know how to check stats and request payouts from the FT site..  Does Adobe Stock even have a contributor dashboard.?

« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2016, 14:06 »
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Nothing,  they changed review notification to. Just new design. I love it!

I kind of hope something is up...I hope they get rid of the fotolia brand totally and just use the adobe brand.

That would be ok by me, but I only know how to check stats and request payouts from the FT site..  Does Adobe Stock even have a contributor dashboard.?

I just looked again yesterday and couldn't find one. I just did a search and found this:

https://stock.adobe.com/contributor

It says: "Step 1: Create an account. Submit content on Fotolia.com. And coming soon, submit directly on Adobe Stock or through Lightroom CC and Bridge CC." The "and coming soon" sounds promising. Hopefully they will move our existing Fotolia accounts over, and we don't have to create a new one.

« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2016, 14:23 »
+1
I also noticed that views are way down now even though sales are up, their statistics make more sense now ;)  Really loving them now, hope they keep the good things up!

« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2016, 18:14 »
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I also noticed that views are way down now even though sales are up, their statistics make more sense now ;)  Really loving them now, hope they keep the good things up!
I never bother with views as every site is different and inconsistent. But Adobe/Fotolia seem not to be messing things up at the moment which currently is leading edge performance.......

« Reply #60 on: September 08, 2016, 23:04 »
+1
Nothing,  they changed review notification to. Just new design. I love it!

I kind of hope something is up...I hope they get rid of the fotolia brand totally and just use the adobe brand.

That would be ok by me, but I only know how to check stats and request payouts from the FT site..  Does Adobe Stock even have a contributor dashboard.?

I just looked again yesterday and couldn't find one. I just did a search and found this:

https://stock.adobe.com/contributor

It says: "Step 1: Create an account. Submit content on Fotolia.com. And coming soon, submit directly on Adobe Stock or through Lightroom CC and Bridge CC." The "and coming soon" sounds promising. Hopefully they will move our existing Fotolia accounts over, and we don't have to create a new one.

Interesting.   Maybe FT is being fazed out.. If they are preparing to intake content directly on Adobe they are also probably working on a dashboard.  I just hope they dont close off access to the FT contributor site until the Adobe one is fully functional.

« Reply #61 on: September 09, 2016, 01:09 »
+1
Perhaps they will enable keywords to be sorted in priority order in lightroom that would be a major step forward in workflow.

« Reply #62 on: September 09, 2016, 04:06 »
0
Funny things happening here.
I only do video, no still images, and Fotolia until July was doing quite well for me, constantly 10-15 sales per month.
Since the beginning of August not a single sale and practically no view at all, as if the agency had gone out of business.
Very worrying, I really think there is something wrong, it cannot just be seasonal trend and besides everyone here seems to be reporting good sales

« Reply #63 on: September 09, 2016, 07:44 »
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It says: "Step 1: Create an account. Submit content on Fotolia.com. And coming soon, submit directly on Adobe Stock or through Lightroom CC and Bridge CC." The "and coming soon" sounds promising. Hopefully they will move our existing Fotolia accounts over, and we don't have to create a new one.
It sounds promising for CC users but I have a bad feeling about what is "coming soon" for those who are not on subscription.
I was very content with things as they were, I hate changes but this is inevitable now.

« Reply #64 on: September 09, 2016, 08:21 »
0
Something funky going on with Fotolia notifications.  It's now saying "Content Sold" as the title of the site mail instead of "Fotolia  File Sold".  Don't know if that indicates something.

Check attached notification:
Does it mean that my photo was sold in Japan or something?

Polish and French sales?

stockVid

« Reply #65 on: September 09, 2016, 08:45 »
+1
The new email design does not tell you the Title of the accepted file. Only a thumbnail.

You have to log into your admin to find out the Title of the accepted file.

This is a step backwards.

« Reply #66 on: September 09, 2016, 09:04 »
+1
It sounds promising for CC users but I have a bad feeling about what is "coming soon" for those who are not on subscription.
I was very content with things as they were, I hate changes but this is inevitable now.

I was thinking the same thing yesterday, after I posted that it would be a good thing. Hopefully contributors won't be required to sign up for CC in order to contribute, but frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Adobe required that. The fees for the CC subscription would eat up most people's sales commissions.  :(
« Last Edit: September 09, 2016, 09:06 by cathyslife »

« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2016, 09:36 »
+1
If now we get details about where the sale is actually made, maybe we can finally get the true percentage of that sale, at the official exchange rate, instead of the bogus, artificial, Fotolia credit "exchange rate" where 1 = 1$

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