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« on: July 11, 2016, 10:11 »
+5
I've seen a great improvement in terms of sale and price of each sale I get as a contributor on FT and this is far better than what I get on SS. The sales on SS are also dead slow these days. I guess this is happening since the Adobe took over the company. The poll results on right can surprise us in coming days..


« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2016, 10:20 »
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LOL, wish much???
looking to the right, 36 is not even ahead of alamy
and you're already rooting that Foto whatever is going to cross SS???

last i recall, that's what they said about alamy.

first get past istock, then we can talk about catching up close enough to see ss bumper 8)

« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2016, 10:23 »
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There are always individual cases but in general when i look on the right ss is far ahead of fotolia. If ever something will happen, what i doubt, maybe in coming years. Ss is leader for many many years and until now nobody came even close. There is shutterstock and the rest fighting for second spot.

« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2016, 10:24 »
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My sales with FT are still almost dead.  They seem to be good for some people but not for others.  So until they are good for all of us, I don't see how they can possibly overtake SS in the poll here.

« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2016, 10:24 »
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 :o for me FT earnings are only around 10% of SS.

« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2016, 10:34 »
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For me, I earned more on SS than FT only the first two months, when I started with this. After that, FT was my #1 earner, even with less sales.  Although, June and July are very poor for me on FT...

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2016, 10:55 »
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FL would have to more than double to overtake SS for me.

« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2016, 10:59 »
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For me, I earned more on SS than FT only the first two months, when I started with this. After that, FT was my #1 earner, even with less sales.  Although, June and July are very poor for me on FT...

Fotolia is doing better in terms of price most of the time. I get $1 on average for each sale while on SS I hardly get $1.8 or $0.88 sale. Most of the time they are $25 on ss.

Finally, fotolia crossed IS and will bash Alamy too in few weeks...

« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2016, 11:08 »
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Could be individually, but for me FT is still far behind. I do enjoy their nice commissions and higher RPD but I don't believe it will last too long (too good to be true :) )

« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2016, 11:31 »
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Ft not my favorite. Just remember all that ****
DC, close contributor accounts for no reason or close accounts for MSG posts and..

« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2016, 11:40 »
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First, they have to get past the Bigstock juggernaut.  ;)

« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2016, 12:30 »
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First, they have to get past the Bigstock juggernaut.  ;)

objectively and financially speaking, every single one to the right of leaf's poll which has been around since IS and SS
should all been thrown into the dumpster.
technically, if you don't make an impact after the 6th year , you should pack it in.
.. like dt, ft, crestock, canstock, scanstock,alamy,123,veer,even big... add your own menu...
forget it... put them all in a wooden box and bury them.

i am not subscribing to the new elitist flavor of the moment but i will give them 5 years to see
them past IS...
-canva
-stocksy
etc

personally, i wish them well, because yes, even though i make regular payout like many here,
i see a drop since oringer sold shares to the scavengers in wall street...
and it would be healthy not to give ss the monopoly ...
until they get out of wall street.

...and more importantly, i see 28 , 85, 102 bucks single earnings back on my daily account again.
(but i won't be the one holding my breath ).


« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2016, 13:03 »
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Two observations.

You have 600-ish images on SS and 1,000-ish on FT. It would be a more useful comparison if you had the same numbers on both.

You should check your spellings on images with words - It's laundry not laundery, sugar not suger (it has the word alert in there too which is why I assume it's supposed to be English) entrepreneur not entreprenour

« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2016, 13:18 »
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FT has been inching closer and closer to matching my earnings on SS. This month, it may actually surpass it. FT revenue is currently about 15% higher than SS for the month of July, but we're only a third into the month. I have a similar size portfolio on both websites.

I won't say that FT is going to be like that for everyone, because everyone has a different portfolio. For me, things are looking pretty even at the moment. Once I hit Emerald tier, I have no doubt it'll surpass SS.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2016, 13:23 by Minsc »

« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2016, 14:19 »
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FT ahead of SS in terms of sales has been my experience for the past 8 months. Right now (1/3 into the month of July) my sales in FT are almost twice my sales on SS. I have about the same number of images in both, around 400, all photos.

Chichikov

« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2016, 14:22 »
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I've seen a great improvement in terms of sale and price of each sale I get as a contributor on FT and this is far better than what I get on SS. The sales on SS are also dead slow these days. I guess this is happening since the Adobe took over the company. The poll results on right can surprise us in coming days..

Did you smoke the moquette?

« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2016, 15:05 »
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FT is about 20-25% of my SS earning, but it is going up.

« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2016, 19:10 »
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Based on what I'm seeing, FT has better overall RPI...like 50% more return per image. My FT downloads are 2/3 of what get on SS, but the revenue is similar. SS has bigger single downloads which continue to push beyond expectations.

I don't think my FT download numbers can match my SS download numbers in the long term, so I think there is more potential with SS. I also feel like I'm going to hit a wall on FT soon since I don't know how much higher I can climb on the weekly ranks.

w7lwi

  • Those that don't stand up to evil enable evil.
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2016, 20:55 »
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There was a time SS was the undisputed leader for me.  No other site even came close.  Today, those times have come and gone.  For my situation, FT has been erratic.  Some months they exceed SS (in dollars because that's the ultimate bottom line for most of us).  Other times they fall quite a bit short.  Using the first 11 days of July as an example, and SS as my benchmark, FT is presently running about 1/3 of SS earnings.  Last month, they were about 10% higher.  Note I do have a smaller portfolio on FT as I've only been with them about a year.  As SS sales have been steadily coming down, other sites have been rising, in my case most notably Canva.  Since July 1, they are now better than 300% of SS sales and they typically outsell SS on a month-to-month basis.  And in this case I only have a portfolio roughly 25% the size of the one I have on SS.  Also beating SS this month has been 123RF.  However, this is an outlier, most likely due to a PEL sale and I expect total earnings to fall below SS by month's end.

As I said, this is only my experience and is likely unique to me.  The images I send to Canva are mostly tailored to their client base.  I usually send the same images to SS and other sites, but since no one else takes PNG images, these must all be submitted as isolated JPEG's.   Bottom line, if and until SS shakes off the typical lethargy that seems to come from going public, other sites with innovative ideas and approaches will continue to grow and nip at their heels until they inevitably overtake the leader.  Then it becomes a question of whether SS can rise like a Phoenix once again, or go the way of other sites before it into mediocrity and stagnation.

« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2016, 05:44 »
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I've got a big port on all the agencies.  I've been doing this for quite some time.  Despite sales being down across the board due to a huge increase in collection sizes everywhere, I have enough data to see clear trend lines.

Just giving you background for what I'm about to say.

FT/AS will overtake SS at some point.  I said it here late last year after I met with some Adobe Stock people.  They are extremely bright people, tying their stock business to their software in ways that make a lot of sense.  They are in microstock to win, and to me it's clear that in the end they will.  It may not be this year, but they will end up the #1 agency. 
« Last Edit: July 12, 2016, 05:54 by stockmarketer »

« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2016, 05:48 »
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Also beating SS this month has been 123RF.  However, this is an outlier, most likely due to a PEL sale and I expect total earnings to fall below SS by month's end.

Yes, 123RF is the other major player on the rise.  Not too long ago I said they had crossed into Top Tier.  They will be the #3 agency before long. 

« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2016, 09:05 »
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I've got a big port on all the agencies.  I've been doing this for quite some time.  Despite sales being down across the board due to a huge increase in collection sizes everywhere, I have enough data to see clear trend lines.

Just giving you background for what I'm about to say.

FT/AS will overtake SS at some point.  I said it here late last year after I met with some Adobe Stock people.  They are extremely bright people, tying their stock business to their software in ways that make a lot of sense.  They are in microstock to win, and to me it's clear that in the end they will.  It may not be this year, but they will end up the #1 agency.

+1 FT have been No1 for me for just over a year now. Not just a bit but by a several hundred $'s p/m. Their search seems to work well, new images seem to get a fair chance and I'm hoping the video side picks up as much as the stills. They are responsive when I have a question, non of this waiting so long that you've forgotten what . you asked (SS). Hopefully they continue this good progress!!!

gyllens

« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2016, 09:50 »
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FT has been inching closer and closer to matching my earnings on SS. This month, it may actually surpass it. FT revenue is currently about 15% higher than SS for the month of July, but we're only a third into the month. I have a similar size portfolio on both websites.

I won't say that FT is going to be like that for everyone, because everyone has a different portfolio. For me, things are looking pretty even at the moment. Once I hit Emerald tier, I have no doubt it'll surpass SS.

Not too sure hitting emerald will result in any increase at all. I remember Lisa wrote something about once you get to that level the sort order will not be in your favour. I know as a Gold I was earning almost double of what I'm getting now and I am not the only one.

« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2016, 09:59 »
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fotolia less than 10% of SS that sais everything


Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk

« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2016, 11:33 »
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fotolia less than 10% of SS that sais everything


Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk

Yeah, it says that you don't have the right kind of photos for FT customers.


 

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