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Agency Based Discussion => Adobe Stock => Topic started by: Peter on June 04, 2008, 02:47

Title: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: Peter on June 04, 2008, 02:47
Wait, wait! There are more surprises in edited text that members find by themselves every day:

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Images sold with subscription don't generate affiliation revenues.

[url]http://us.fotolia.com/Info/Pricing[/url]


No ranking, and no affiliaton revenue with subs... Nice!
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: leaf on June 04, 2008, 03:15
wow... what are they trying to do?
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: stokfoto on June 04, 2008, 03:16
once again impressive!
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: Lizard on June 04, 2008, 03:35
Well I guess we can be happy if we don't own them any money at the and of the month after getting those sales.

So whats next that they could to for people at least for a while stop uploading there ?


I think its time for boycott after those moves , and there are already people on their forums who claim they will.

I suggest that we act together for the first time and write them a mail with a list of people who will not contribute with their new work under those conditions any more and let my name be first on that list.

If anyone is for that just drop a name on the list and if Im a lone rider in this try , well i guess I just wont upload new stuff there as an individual.




 
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: grp_photo on June 04, 2008, 03:40
I'm with you Lizard but why not try to do this action on the Fotolia-Forum?
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: leaf on June 04, 2008, 03:41
if you do it on the fotolia board, make sure you post a link to the thread so that people here can find it.

edit for clarity.
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: grp_photo on June 04, 2008, 03:46
You want on the action on your forum Leaf? Why?
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: leaf on June 04, 2008, 03:54
You want on the action on your forum Leaf? Why?

i am not sure i understand what you said?

All I meant though was that if Lizard was to take it to the fotolia board that it would be nice if he posted a link here so that the members who don't follow the fotolia board so closely and want to take part will find it.
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: Peter on June 04, 2008, 04:07
It is impossible to make such deal, there are thousands of submiters, and only few are visiting the forums.... it just wouldn work.
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: Freezingpictures on June 04, 2008, 04:09
Chode,as I understand it he meant link from here to the fotolia forum where the thread is to be found.
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: Peter on June 04, 2008, 04:11
Chode,as I understand it he meant link from here to the fotolia forum where the thread is to be found.

I know, I was reading too fast :D I edited my post to something else...  hhhh
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: Lizard on June 04, 2008, 04:27


Well Im not sure that starting  , at least starting an empty list there would be a smart move cause as I saw tonight they do delete and edit posts they don't like.

I think it would be a good idea to start a new topic here , ask Leaf to make it sticky for few days if possible , and when and if if we get some names on that list then open a topic there so others can join.


Anyway I think we should add our user  name and our number of accepted  images on Fotolia , so...

I was thinking a description of the list , somthing like that , but English is not ma native language and Im not too good as writer so if anyone wants to change the description bellow feel free to do it.....

So here it goes:

If you find that Fotolia recent changes represent a step backward regarding contributors position in the microstock industry,  and you are willing to stop uploading new images to Fotolia until acceptable changes are made , please sign the list bellow , with your Fotolia user name and number of your images that Fotolia represents.

Lizard - 3904 images


Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: ACS on June 04, 2008, 04:36
If you find that Fotolia recent changes represent a step backward regarding contributors position in the microstock industry,  and you are willing to stop uploading new images to Fotolia until acceptable changes are made , please sign the list bellow , with your Fotolia user name and number of your images that Fotolia represents.

Lizard - 3904 images
cuneytselcuk - 315 files
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: grp_photo on June 04, 2008, 04:55
Lizard - 3904 images
cuneytselcuk - 315 files
grp_photo - 1861 files
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: sharpshot on June 04, 2008, 05:00
My sales have slumped since they changed the search and I am not happy with the low subs so I will join the list.

Lizard - 3904 images
cuneytselcuk - 315 files
grp_photo - 1861 files
sharpshot - 1948
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: frankmedrano on June 04, 2008, 05:19
frankmedrano
497
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: skvoor on June 04, 2008, 05:28
I have already stopped uploading due to search engine changes few weeks ago.
I was disappointed with every big change on fotolia..

Lizard - 3904 images
cuneytselcuk - 315 files
grp_photo - 1861 files
sharpshot - 1948
frankmedrano - 497
skvoor 1873
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: marcopolo on June 04, 2008, 05:35
I already said on their message board that is it no longer worth the effort for me to upload there the way things are now. Good time to work on my Alamy portfolio now that summer is here.

Lizard - 3904 images
cuneytselcuk - 315 files
grp_photo - 1861 files
sharpshot - 1948
frankmedrano - 497
skvoor 1873
marcopolo 2104
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: vonkara on June 04, 2008, 05:58
And there it goes again LOL. I come whit my small contribution.

Lizard - 3904 images
cuneytselcuk - 315 files
grp_photo - 1861 files
sharpshot - 1948
frankmedrano - 497
skvoor 1873
marcopolo 2104
Vonkara - 165
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: marinini on June 04, 2008, 06:44
I am in

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cuneytselcuk - 315 files
grp_photo - 1861 files
sharpshot - 1948
frankmedrano - 497
skvoor 1873
marcopolo 2104
Vonkara - 165
Marinini - 305
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: jsnover on June 04, 2008, 08:55
I've already stopped uploading (and deleted the batch approved earlier this week while this mess unfolded). Some members who aren't here have said the same in the Fotolia forums - Bobby Deal, Joe Gough to name 2 I remember)

Lizard - 3904 images
cuneytselcuk - 315 files
grp_photo - 1861 files
sharpshot - 1948
frankmedrano - 497
skvoor 1873
marcopolo 2104
Vonkara - 165
Marinini - 305
jsnover - 1522
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: CofkoCof on June 04, 2008, 09:04
if you do it on the fotolia board, make sure you post a link to the thread so that people here can find it.

edit for clarity.

Here's the link:
http://www.fotolia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=11937
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: timburton on June 04, 2008, 09:33
wow you guys are kicking ass... Im not quite sure though whats going on- am I right in saying that if you refer someone to the site, you wont be making money from what they make in subscriptions? It's a small thing, isnt it? Or am I missing the point?
Its good to see you kick ass though, I must say... (Im istock exclusive so I cant join in)
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: jsnover on June 04, 2008, 10:31
The affiliation revenue was just the latest thing we discovered; the main points are subscriptions with low-ball commissions (25 to 32 cents per download), no opt-out, subs downloads don't count for rank (which ups commissions)
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: timburton on June 04, 2008, 10:45
uuuh huh. I see. Well, I think it's great- you guys should stick with it.
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: DanP68 on June 04, 2008, 10:47
I'm a small time contributor.  Only 259 uploads at Fotolia as of this morning, with 2 that have been in queue for several days.

There will be no more new uploads from me.  In fact I've already skipped them twice in the last few days and sent my uploads everywhere else.  I'm tempted to pull my portfolio entirely, but I'm trying to keep a clear head about all of this.  

This latest news about no referral earnings is just another amazing slap in the face.  Fotolia has truly turned out to be the scourge of microstock agencies.  This does not affect me currently as I have not referred anyone to Fotolia.  But I support my fellow members who are being cheated.

Send the message.  I have not uploaded to them any of last 2 batches, and I will not upload to them until these ridiculous insults are taken away.
Title: Re: FT subscription don't generate affiliation revenues
Post by: madelaide on June 04, 2008, 12:01
I am currently working on my travel images, which don't go in the micros anyway, but I would refrain from uploading to FT for a while to see what happens there.

Regards,
Adelaide