Author Topic: Generative AI updates from Adobe VP Matt Smith (Read 1454 times)

stoker2014 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 25, 2024, 08:44 »

Quote from: MatHayward on April 23, 2024, 18:33

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 23, 2024, 16:51
Quote from: cascoly on April 23, 2024, 15:27
Quote from: Injustice for all on April 23, 2024, 15:05
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Even with just one AI-generated pixel,do I still have to label the content as AI?

don't underestimate single pixels --after all, the sophons are omniscient proton-sized nanobots

the 3-body problem!:D ok you've definitely already seen fallout! I just recently saw that the 5th season of StarTrek Discovery is out,later I'll start the free trial via Amazon Prime,since i have already used the free trial in Paramount!

anyway yes,I wondered if something had changed since Mat's last livestream,however it would be interesting if we could have a checkbox for content where we can declare that the subject is real,because it's a shame to have to label content as AI if only an abstract background is added for example,who knows maybe in the future!

Here is the official policy per our learn and support page on generative AI about when to tag as AI and when it is not necessary.

Does the use of Generative Fill and Generative Expand in Photoshop and Generative Recolor in Illustrator require labelling an image as generative AI?

Label your image as generative AI when the use of generative AI tools in Photoshop or Illustrator changed, augmented, or added a new primary subject of an image.

Examples when to label your image as generative AI:

Generating new additions, such as a new person, animal, or object
Adding new subjects might compromise the accuracy of an image
Making significant adjustments or changes to a human subject in an image
Recoloring the primary subject of an image

Examples when you wouldn’t be obligated to label an image as generative AI:

Extending background for any reason
Removing IP or other forms of retouching
Removing distracting objects or people
Recoloring the background of an image

Removing noise in video using the Topaz Video Enhance AI program - what is it? Flag a video as created using artificial intelligence?

DiscreetDuck · « **Reply #26 on:** April 25, 2024, 13:37 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 25, 2024, 08:26

@DiscreetDuck
...let's try to understand for example how to behave or when to label AI content and when not,and what we can do and what not.

Adobe should name "AI generated Images", and exclude any of them from the term "Photo".
Playing on ambiguity, they don't really want to separate the naming of these two types of content. Guess why...

What would Adobe say to photography contributors who don't want to use AI? Either you produce with AI, or your content will be permanently drowned? (by photos that are not)

Is unfair competition still a relevant concept?

cascoly · « **Reply #27 on:** April 25, 2024, 20:45 »

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on April 25, 2024, 13:37

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 25, 2024, 08:26
@DiscreetDuck
...let's try to understand for example how to behave or when to label AI content and when not,and what we can do and what not.
Adobe should name "AI generated Images", and exclude any of them from the term "Photo".
Playing on ambiguity, they don't really want to separate the naming of these two types of content. Guess why...

What would Adobe say to photography contributors who don't want to use AI? Either you produce with AI, or your content will be permanently drowned? (by photos that are not)

Is unfair competition still a relevant concept?

photos (digital) are created by capturing light in sensors -

'ai generated' are created by mining those 'photos'

buyers don't care - they want something that fits their needs - technicalities don't matter & stock agencies recognizer this, even if luddite 'photographers' continue to fight the last war

shift happens - join or wither

Injustice for all · « **Reply #28 on:** April 26, 2024, 05:15 »

but yes,AI-real-hybrids,who cares?

I try to do everything I can,with the means at my disposal.

However,I remain of the opinion that greater clarity needs to be made on some points,we need to clarify what exactly can and cannot be done,I am convinced that many contributors don't want to take risks because they don't know exactly what to do.

I see that even someone here are scared because had some rejection for undeclared generative AI content,or others don't know whether using Topaz video is a problem or not,I haven't yet understood whether extending a real background with generative expand is a problem or not,I think not,but I'm not absolutely sure.

we need greater clarity,or despite having these magnificent tools at our disposal,we end up limiting our creativity for fear of consequences.

DiscreetDuck · « **Reply #29 on:** April 26, 2024, 06:29 »

Quote from: cascoly on April 25, 2024, 20:45

shift happens - join or wither

Another shift will happen later for all those ephemeral human generators who 'joined'

Injustice for all · « **Reply #30 on:** April 26, 2024, 06:50 »

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on April 26, 2024, 06:29

Quote from: cascoly on April 25, 2024, 20:45
shift happens - join or wither
Another shift will happen later for all those ephemeral human generators who 'joined'

Maybe it's better for you to change job and start writing books about science fiction and dystopian worlds!

cascoly · « **Reply #31 on:** April 26, 2024, 13:12 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 26, 2024, 05:15

but yes,AI-real-hybrids,who cares?

I try to do everything I can,with the means at my disposal....

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we need greater clarity,or despite having these magnificent tools at our disposal,we end up limiting our creativity for fear of consequences.

fine by me -- less competition from those who bemoan AI but don't do anything to change