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georgep7

« Reply #125 on: October 16, 2019, 14:09 »
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@alexandersr, don't waste your time on politics. You do not have anything to prove or explain to no-one. Instead, you can set some rules e.g. no women, old people or children just to have peace of mind and heart and start documenting whatever happens around you. Valuable and unique pieces of work that you can offer for licensing when this story come to an end. If not previously as live feed from your country. Adobe might cut strings but e.g. news agencies need material to show the news. Best wishes and stay safe.


« Reply #126 on: October 16, 2019, 14:24 »
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@alexandersr, don't waste your time on politics. You do not have anything to prove or explain to no-one. Instead, you can set some rules e.g. no women, old people or children just to have peace of mind and heart and start documenting whatever happens around you. Valuable and unique pieces of work that you can offer for licensing when this story come to an end. If not previously as live feed from your country. Adobe might cut strings but e.g. news agencies need material to show the news. Best wishes and stay safe.

Thank you, very much!

« Reply #127 on: October 16, 2019, 17:58 »
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Who cares about healthcare in US!
No such thing as healthcare in the US only sick care and even that is 3rd world at best.

« Reply #128 on: October 16, 2019, 18:04 »
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It's sad this situation, "due to the recent Presidential Executive Order in the United States (Executive Order 13884) regarding activities with the government of Venezuela, Adobe is no longer permitted to provide you with access to software and services, or to make your Works available to customers."

I'm Very sad ! :'( :'( :'(

Hang tight and don't give up, the Dumper will be impeached soon and chaos will be brought back to order in about 13 months when we have a President again!

« Reply #129 on: October 17, 2019, 12:06 »
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It's sad this situation, "due to the recent Presidential Executive Order in the United States (Executive Order 13884) regarding activities with the government of Venezuela, Adobe is no longer permitted to provide you with access to software and services, or to make your Works available to customers."

I'm Very sad ! :'( :'( :'(

Hang tight and don't give up, the Dumper will be impeached soon and chaos will be brought back to order in about 13 months when we have a President again!
Thank you, very much!

marthamarks

« Reply #130 on: October 17, 2019, 15:48 »
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Hang tight and don't give up, the Dumper will be impeached soon and chaos will be brought back to order in about 13 months when we have a President again!

Well, given the latest information (honest facts, not "fake news") coming out of Washington these days, it's certain he will be impeached in the House.

Unfortunately, there's no guarantee he'll be convicted in the Senate, because a bunch of senators (of both genders and parties) would have to grow cojones that they haven't yet shown themselves to have in order for that to happen.

Still, he most certainly can (and I believe will) be tossed out on his ear by the non-MAGAt 60% majority of American voters on November 3, 2020.

And then the world will need to hang on tight until January 20, 2021, 'cause only the good lord knows what our crazy, corrupt, would-be dictator might do in the interval between his loss at the polls and his inevitable post-presidency corruption trials.

« Reply #131 on: October 19, 2019, 19:15 »
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There's only 1 way impeachment can succeed:  around 20 Republican Senators in 'swing' states get together and decide they'd rather have someone other than Trump on the Republican ticket in 2020.  They could 'reluctantly' vote to convict him and have a fig leaf of cover.


marthamarks

« Reply #132 on: October 19, 2019, 20:30 »
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There's only 1 way impeachment can succeed:  around 20 Republican Senators in 'swing' states get together and decide they'd rather have someone other than Trump on the Republican ticket in 2020.  They could 'reluctantly' vote to convict him and have a fig leaf of cover.

It could happen. I wouldn't have believed that even a month ago, but after Trump stepped in it "bigly" in Syria and is now even more blatantly thumbing his nose at the American Constitution by violating the emoluments clause at next year's G7

At this point in history, there's literally no telling what could happen.

« Reply #133 on: October 20, 2019, 05:28 »
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Sean I have been to all those places. Very high taxes, some have free health care but poor care. Many of those people with money come to America to get great heath care. Even Mic Jagger came to California to get his heart worked on. He is from the UK and they have really poor free health care. Not even sure if Mic would have been cover because of his old age in the UK.  Sean it seems you clearly like Socialism in America. That is your right. For me Socialism is just a pre- word for communism. Sean is the world going to come to an end in twelve years for our abuse of the pollution in the world. You don't even need to answer that, AOC says it will come to an end.....We all know AOC is so smart...

Secede. Seriously. Get by on $1 back for $1 paid in tax. New York gets back only 80, yet THAT'S where MicK Jagger went for his heart operation. My mother lay in the hallway on a gurney for 24 hours when she went to the emergency room...in New Jersey. She was seriously injured by subpar medical care...right here in the USA. Right here in the USA, where getting subpar medical care not only injures you but also bankrupts you. These are the countries with the best medical care:

Canada
Qatar
France
Norway
New Zealand
Germany
Hong Kong
The Netherlands
Switzerland
Singapore
Luxembourg
Japan
Sweden

The U.S. ranks #37.

Coincidentally enough, Texas ranks #37 in health care in the U.S. Maybe that's why Jagger didn't go to Texas for his operation.

Why didn't he get his operation in the UK if the care is better there and free?

The care is terrible with long waiting times if you go for the 'free' option.

Also, it isn't free for people who actually work as a contribution is deducted from income.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2019, 05:32 by Not Today »

« Reply #134 on: October 20, 2019, 13:25 »
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Was in photoshop at one point one of the most pirated programs ever. I mean if they don't want to take your money anymore

Hopefully you should still be able to submit your images to SS, iStock and such instead

farbled

« Reply #135 on: October 20, 2019, 13:48 »
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« Last Edit: October 20, 2019, 13:53 by farbled »

« Reply #136 on: October 20, 2019, 14:46 »
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Also, it isn't free for people who actually work as a contribution is deducted from income.

Thanks for the insight, Einstein.

« Reply #137 on: October 20, 2019, 18:29 »
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Universal health care, while imperfect, is generally a good idea for for low income and middle income people. In the United States, the richest 5% of tax payers pay 56% of federal income tax (https://www.dailysignal.com/2015/04/15/how-much-do-the-top-1-percent-pay-of-all-taxes/). Because taxation is progressive, most people who are low-middle income are generally beneficiaries of governmental services from the taxes of the ultra wealthy, be the services in the form of government programs, or emergency services, the military, teachers, or other public services, etc.

Even putting aside the talk of universal health care, almost all people in the United States are net beneficiaries of taxes from the ultra wealthy, all because the ultra wealthy pay the majority of taxes.

Back to universal health care, the evidence seems to suggest that government run health care is cheaper than private health care. On a per capita basis, all industrialized countries spend significantly less than the United States, and yet many countries' citizens live longer and are healthier than Americans. The universal health care I'm most familiar with is Australia's. The Australian government buys drugs in bulk from American companies. Because of the government's size, they get to negotiate drug prices down for the Australian tax payers. Whereas in the United States, Medicare is prohibited by law to negotiate drug prices. The result is that drug prices run rampant in the United States.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2019, 19:43 by charged »

« Reply #138 on: October 20, 2019, 19:13 »
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Do your own research on this . Doctors in America make on average three to four times more than most Doctors in the world. In the UK an average Family Doctor makes  around 70K per year. In the US the same doctor makes around 180K. A lot of the really good doctors of the world come to the US and leave their beloved countries for the money. In Taiwan a Family Doctor makes maybe 45K a year. To make up his or her money they see 10 times the numbers a week than US doctors. Just to make money. Most US doctors work five days a week. In Taiwan six to seven days is a normal week . Yes American medicine may be screwed up but I will take it over an overworked, underpaid world doctor any day. I guess world doctors are like stock photographer , it is all about numbers.     

« Reply #139 on: October 20, 2019, 19:36 »
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Did Abraham Lincoln tell you all that?

farbled

« Reply #140 on: October 20, 2019, 19:55 »
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Yes American medicine may be screwed up but I will take it over an overworked, underpaid world doctor any day. I guess world doctors are like stock photographer , it is all about numbers.     
You said what you pay per year in premiums and deductibles. Why do you hate spending less money for the same or better service? What if one of your kids has an illness that isn't covered by insurance?

Canadian docs are world class and many of them are not in it solely for the money, so they stay here. I also won't lose my home to pay for a minor car accident.

Your medicine isn't screwed up, it's your priorities.

« Reply #141 on: October 20, 2019, 20:02 »
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Do your own research on this . Doctors in America make on average three to four times more than most Doctors in the world. In the UK an average Family Doctor makes  around 70K per year. In the US the same doctor makes around 180K. A lot of the really good doctors of the world come to the US and leave their beloved countries for the money. In Taiwan a Family Doctor makes maybe 45K a year. To make up his or her money they see 10 times the numbers a week than US doctors. Just to make money. Most US doctors work five days a week. In Taiwan six to seven days is a normal week . Yes American medicine may be screwed up but I will take it over an overworked, underpaid world doctor any day. I guess world doctors are like stock photographer , it is all about numbers.     


There is no correlation to doctor's pay and the health of the country's population.

The United States has the 3rd highest overall physician salary.
https://journal.practicelink.com/vital-stats/physician-compensation-worldwide/

The world health organization ranks America's medical system as 37th place in the world.
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/

The figures seems to suggest the United States is spending a lot of money on health care and getting lesser results than other countries who spend far less.

I don't think Taiwan is a fair comparison to the United States. Their annual GDP per capita is $25k USD. I'm not sure at that kind of earning power they would be considered first world.
https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/taiwan/gdp-per-capita
And from what I've read online, long hours at white collar jobs in Taiwan is standard. 60hrs per week is not unusual. Similar to long hours at white collar jobs in New York City is often standard. I worked and lived in NYC for several years, a lot of people, including myself had long hours at their desk job. It was difficult to make social plans with friends because you never knew if you could actually leave work in time.

Doctors in most rich countries start their careers with little to no student debt, while in the United States they start out on average of $130k in student debt.

There is also the issue of doctor's pay linked to the number of services they provide. The more test they run on you, the more they bill you. There is an incentive in the United States that drives up health care that don't necessarily exist under a universal health care system. In the United States there is also what people call defensive medicine, where the fear of lawsuits drive doctors to perform tests they know are most likely unnecessarily to cover all their bases, and the consequences is that it drives overall medical spending up.
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marthamarks

« Reply #142 on: October 20, 2019, 20:35 »
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Did Abraham Lincoln tell you all that?

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

« Reply #143 on: October 21, 2019, 13:51 »
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Was in photoshop at one point one of the most pirated programs ever. I mean if they don't want to take your money anymore

Hopefully you should still be able to submit your images to SS, iStock and such instead

I hope so.

Shelma1

  • stockcoalition.org
« Reply #144 on: October 21, 2019, 14:08 »
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Universal health care, while imperfect, is generally a good idea for for low income and middle income people. In the United States, the richest 5% of tax payers pay 56% of federal income tax

Even putting aside the talk of universal health care, almost all people in the United States are net beneficiaries of taxes from the ultra wealthy, all because the ultra wealthy pay the majority of taxes.

"The top 5% of households, three quarters of whom had two income earners, had incomes of $166,200 or higher."

That means in a lot of those cases, each person in a two-earner family earned an average of $83,100 per year. Not exactly ultra-wealthy.

However, there are a few dozen families who ARE ultra-wealthy, and this year their tax rate fell BELOW that of the middle class for the first time.

It's sick that the ultra-wealthy have bought our government representatives and had laws passed that give them ever greater wealth while simultaneously having laws passed that give them lower tax rates.

They game the system so that money is extracted from the lower classes and passed up to them....whether it's through stagnant wages that give them unprecedented corporate earnings and bonuses, predatory lending practices that keep the poor in debt and paying exorbitant interest rates, creating a gig economy that keeps workers from getting benefits, and any other number of nefarious means.

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #145 on: October 22, 2019, 04:09 »
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Why didn't he get his operation in the UK if the care is better there and free?

Because he's a celebrity and didn't want to have an operation in an NHS hospital being bothered by fans all the time and money's no object? Because he lives part time in NYC and wanted to be close to his girlfriend who's house is there (I think his smallest child may even live there)? Because money, location and the overall health care in a country are irrelevant to someone that wealthy and he could have got the best service anywhere he feels like?

Honestly that anecdotes about rich people would get dragged in to discussions like this as "evidence" is just embarrassing. The WHO will give you a good idea of how good a countries healthcare is for an average citizen.

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #146 on: October 22, 2019, 04:19 »
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Universal health care, while imperfect, is generally a good idea for for low income and middle income people. In the United States, the richest 5% of tax payers pay 56% of federal income tax

Even putting aside the talk of universal health care, almost all people in the United States are net beneficiaries of taxes from the ultra wealthy, all because the ultra wealthy pay the majority of taxes.

"The top 5% of households, three quarters of whom had two income earners, had incomes of $166,200 or higher."

That means in a lot of those cases, each person in a two-earner family earned an average of $83,100 per year. Not exactly ultra-wealthy.

However, there are a few dozen families who ARE ultra-wealthy, and this year their tax rate fell BELOW that of the middle class for the first time.

It's sick that the ultra-wealthy have bought our government representatives and had laws passed that give them ever greater wealth while simultaneously having laws passed that give them lower tax rates.

They game the system so that money is extracted from the lower classes and passed up to them....whether it's through stagnant wages that give them unprecedented corporate earnings and bonuses, predatory lending practices that keep the poor in debt and paying exorbitant interest rates, creating a gig economy that keeps workers from getting benefits, and any other number of nefarious means.

Honestly these talking points are just propaganda by ultra wealthy elites.

People need to understand that what the top 10% or 5% pay is irrelevant. Pretty much anyone outside the top 1%-0.5% is one cancer diagnosis or other negative life event from the street (in the US).

The top 1% have 40% of the wealth in the US.

The difference between one million dollars and 1 billion dollars is approximately 1 billion dollars. You can get paid $2000 per hour for 40 hours per week for TWO HUNDRED YEARS and still not have a billion dollars.

It's infuriating that people will throw out stats like most millionaires are first generation (not that I've actually seen even that stat convincingly backed up) when millionaires are a distraction. The people out there paying no tax and sponging up government payouts aren't the poor, or even the top 10-20%. They are the top tiny fraction of 1% who own almost everything and fund think tanks, politicians etc. to keep us all fighting each other and looking the other way.

georgep7

« Reply #147 on: October 22, 2019, 06:08 »
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You can get paid $2000 per hour for 40 hours per week for TWO HUNDRED YEARS and still not have a billion dollars.

*, keep that billion, i don't want to work for 200 years. I wouldn't want even to get payed for free and live 200 years. My mind is a mess from what i saw in just 45 yrs. Imagine after 245 ones....

:P

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #148 on: October 22, 2019, 09:55 »
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You can get paid $2000 per hour for 40 hours per week for TWO HUNDRED YEARS and still not have a billion dollars.

*, keep that billion, i don't want to work for 200 years. I wouldn't want even to get payed for free and live 200 years. My mind is a mess from what i saw in just 45 yrs. Imagine after 245 ones....

:P

LOL, yeah, that's my point. No one ever "earns" a billion dollars. No ones labour or brain or idea is worth that much more than the average worker. That billionaires even exist is a policy failure and a democracy can't function properly when a handful of people have that disproportionate a level of power. 

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #149 on: October 22, 2019, 12:59 »
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The difference between one million dollars and 1 billion dollars is approximately 1 billion dollars. You can get paid $2000 per hour for 40 hours per week for TWO HUNDRED YEARS and still not have a billion dollars.


You aren't accounting for inflation and wise investing. LOL  ;D

That would also explain more millionaires than in the past. But heck why ruin a sympathy thread about someone losing their income, when the rest of us can go off on politics, the rich, the health care system and more politically biased rants?  ::)

Oh I hate to be a distraction and go back on topic, but I hope that AS simply deactivates accounts until this blows over and then restores them. Years of uploads and work, just wiped would be sad as well.

And I know no one wants to hear this, but if AS is a US company and they are complying, why aren't SS and IS, or any of the rest. Not asking for that, just wondering why?


 

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