Author Topic: Good bye Adobe Stock from Venezuela. (Read 44038 times)

alexandersr · « **on:** October 08, 2019, 15:16 »

It's sad this situation, "due to the recent Presidential Executive Order in the United States (Executive Order 13884) regarding activities with the government of Venezuela, Adobe is no longer permitted to provide you with access to software and services, or to make your Works available to customers."

I'm Very sad !

charged · « **Reply #1 on:** October 08, 2019, 15:22 »

Quote from: alexandersr on October 08, 2019, 15:16

It's sad this situation, due to the recent Presidential Executive Order in the United States (Executive Order 13884) regarding activities with the government of Venezuela, Adobe is no longer permitted to provide you with access to software and services, or to make your Works available to customers.

I'm Very sad !

So sorry to hear your pain. I'd be devastated if I was cut off from my stock income.

alexandersr · « **Reply #2 on:** October 08, 2019, 15:23 »

Quote from: charged on October 08, 2019, 15:22

Quote from: alexandersr on October 08, 2019, 15:16
It's sad this situation, due to the recent Presidential Executive Order in the United States (Executive Order 13884) regarding activities with the government of Venezuela, Adobe is no longer permitted to provide you with access to software and services, or to make your Works available to customers.

I'm Very sad !

So sorry to hear your pain. I'd be devastated if I was cut off from my stock income.

Thanks!

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #3 on:** October 08, 2019, 15:29 »

Quote from: alexandersr on October 08, 2019, 15:16

I'm Very sad !

Understandably - I wonder if there are any exceptions for sole proprietors? I thought sanctions were to be imposed on high level officials?

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/10/adobe-cancels-all-user-accounts-in-venezuela-to-comply-with-trump-order/

https://www.fastcompany.com/90414653/adobe-shuts-down-photoshop-in-venezuela-because-of-trumps-sanctions

Apparently Adobe's interpretation is broader than some other companies' - perhaps they'll change their view of what's needed to comply?

marthamarks · « **Reply #4 on:** October 08, 2019, 16:24 »

As an American, I offer you my sincere apologies and good wishes going forward.

Please know that many millions of us are unhappy with the status quo here and working hard to change it.

mj007 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 08, 2019, 16:33 »

Quote from: marthamarks on October 08, 2019, 16:24

As an American, I offer you my sincere apologies and good wishes going forward.

Please know that many millions of us are unhappy with the status quo here and working hard to change it.

As millions of us are very happy with the status quo in America and are working to keep America Great.

Lina · « **Reply #6 on:** October 08, 2019, 17:01 »

Quote from: alexandersr on October 08, 2019, 15:16

It's sad this situation, "due to the recent Presidential Executive Order in the United States (Executive Order 13884) regarding activities with the government of Venezuela, Adobe is no longer permitted to provide you with access to software and services, or to make your Works available to customers."

I'm Very sad !

Wow! I'm so sorry! I am not much into politics so I don't know what exactly is going on, but I hate to see "small" people get hurt because of political games or whatever. I also wonder how will designers work there if they can't get Adobe software at all.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #7 on:** October 08, 2019, 17:20 »

Quote from: mj007 on October 08, 2019, 16:33

Quote from: marthamarks on October 08, 2019, 16:24
As an American, I offer you my sincere apologies and good wishes going forward.

Please know that many millions of us are unhappy with the status quo here and working hard to change it.

As millions of us are very happy with the status quo in America and are working to keep America Great.

Sorry, alexandersr, the rational among us can't control the worst of society. Yet.

charged · « **Reply #8 on:** October 08, 2019, 17:21 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on October 08, 2019, 15:29

Quote from: alexandersr on October 08, 2019, 15:16
I'm Very sad !

Understandably - I wonder if there are any exceptions for sole proprietors? I thought sanctions were to be imposed on high level officials?

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/10/adobe-cancels-all-user-accounts-in-venezuela-to-comply-with-trump-order/

https://www.fastcompany.com/90414653/adobe-shuts-down-photoshop-in-venezuela-because-of-trumps-sanctions

Apparently Adobe's interpretation is broader than some other companies' - perhaps they'll change their view of what's needed to comply?

I just read about it in the news. The sanctions are quite comprehensive. US companies are forbidden to have any sort of contact from Venezuela. People can't even ask for refunds, that is forbidden by US sanctions. Nothing Adobe can do about it.

Elijah · « **Reply #9 on:** October 08, 2019, 17:22 »

Why not to use VPN that gives you an IP from another country and access it?

Lina · « **Reply #10 on:** October 08, 2019, 17:31 »

VPN probably won't work because he still has to give paypal or bank account which are both revealing country where owner is from. But maybe is worth to try.

Elijah · « **Reply #11 on:** October 08, 2019, 17:35 »

Quote

VPN probably won't work because he still has to give paypal or bank account which are both revealing country where owner is from. But maybe is worth to try.

You are right, I misread the initial post.

It is feaking cruel to punish regular citizens for whatever their government is doing. It is absolutely inhumane.

fritz · « **Reply #12 on:** October 08, 2019, 18:04 »

Quote from: Lina on October 08, 2019, 17:31

VPN probably won't work because he still has to give paypal or bank account which are both revealing country where owner is from. But maybe is worth to try.

Skrill(moneybookers) does provide service to Venezuela

charged · « **Reply #13 on:** October 08, 2019, 18:08 »

Quote from: fritz on October 08, 2019, 18:04

Quote from: Lina on October 08, 2019, 17:31
VPN probably won't work because he still has to give paypal or bank account which are both revealing country where owner is from. But maybe is worth to try.

Skrill(moneybookers) does provide service to Venezuela

He also have to change his account to say he isn't from Venezuela. Not sure if Adobe Stock requires ID to proof one's country of residence?

Anyway, I don't think Adobe would make it easy for people to fool them (but who knows). Sanctions are a form of arm twisting. They aren't meant to be easy to get around.

fritz · « **Reply #14 on:** October 08, 2019, 18:18 »

Quote from: mj007 on October 08, 2019, 16:33

Quote from: marthamarks on October 08, 2019, 16:24
As an American, I offer you my sincere apologies and good wishes going forward.

Please know that many millions of us are unhappy with the status quo here and working hard to change it.

As millions of us are very happy with the status quo in America and are working to keep America Great.

Again?

Zero Talent · « **Reply #15 on:** October 08, 2019, 18:22 »

Quote from: mj007 on October 08, 2019, 16:33

Quote from: marthamarks on October 08, 2019, 16:24
As an American, I offer you my sincere apologies and good wishes going forward.

Please know that many millions of us are unhappy with the status quo here and working hard to change it.

As millions of us are very happy with the status quo in America and are working to keep America Great.

You forgot that many more millions are not happy about that, while seeking a long overdue change, required to fix an obvious mistake!

Don't mistake America for a minority of brainwashed talibans.

alexandersr · « **Reply #16 on:** October 08, 2019, 20:08 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on October 08, 2019, 15:29

Quote from: alexandersr on October 08, 2019, 15:16
I'm Very sad !

Understandably - I wonder if there are any exceptions for sole proprietors? I thought sanctions were to be imposed on high level officials?

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/10/adobe-cancels-all-user-accounts-in-venezuela-to-comply-with-trump-order/

https://www.fastcompany.com/90414653/adobe-shuts-down-photoshop-in-venezuela-because-of-trumps-sanctions

Apparently Adobe's interpretation is broader than some other companies' - perhaps they'll change their view of what's needed to comply?

It is so in theory, but the sanctions extend beyond. Companies like Adobe restrict their use and sale of software to all Venezuelans, whether or not they are from the government. it must be because they have no way of knowing who belongs to the government of Nicolas Maduro and then restricts all Venezuelans so as not to have problems with the United States Government.

On the text.

Dear Adobe Stock Contributor,
    We are writing to let you know that due to the recent Presidential Executive Order in the United States (Executive Order 13884) regarding activities with the government of Venezuela, Adobe is no longer permitted to provide you with access to software and services, or to make your Works available to customers.
    You have until October 28, 2019, to access your Adobe account, at which point your account will be deactivated and your Works will no longer be available to you or to customers through Adobe. Therefore, before this date:

•    If you have available earnings at the payout minimum ($25 USD) or above, please request a payout to your Paypal or Skrill account.
•    If your available earnings balance is below the payout minimum, please provide the receiving PayPal/Skrill account by submitting a support ticket via the Contact Us link in the Contributor portal, or Fotolia.
•    If you have available earnings, please associate a valid tax form with your contributor account, if you have not already done so; otherwise, we cannot issue a payment to you.
•    Go to the tax center on Fotolia, or the tax information section in your Adobe Stock Contributor account to upload a tax form if necessary.
    After October 28, 2019, you will no longer have access to your Adobe account, Adobe.com, or Adobe software and services.
    We regret any inconvenience this may cause you and will continue to carefully monitor and assess the situation. If there are any changes to current laws impacting your account, we will update you via the email on file in your account.
    Sincerely,
The Adobe Stock Team

adobe stock by Alexander Sánchez, on Flickr

alexandersr · « **Reply #17 on:** October 08, 2019, 20:19 »

Quote from: marthamarks on October 08, 2019, 16:24

As an American, I offer you my sincere apologies and good wishes going forward.

Please know that many millions of us are unhappy with the status quo here and working hard to change it.

Thank you, very much!

alexandersr · « **Reply #18 on:** October 08, 2019, 20:20 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on October 08, 2019, 17:20

Quote from: mj007 on October 08, 2019, 16:33
Quote from: marthamarks on October 08, 2019, 16:24
As an American, I offer you my sincere apologies and good wishes going forward.

Please know that many millions of us are unhappy with the status quo here and working hard to change it.

As millions of us are very happy with the status quo in America and are working to keep America Great.

Sorry, alexandersr, the rational among us can't control the worst of society. Yet.

Thanks!

alexandersr · « **Reply #19 on:** October 08, 2019, 20:23 »

Quote from: Elijah on October 08, 2019, 17:35

Quote
VPN probably won't work because he still has to give paypal or bank account which are both revealing country where owner is from. But maybe is worth to try.

You are right, I misread the initial post.

It is feaking cruel to punish regular citizens for whatever their government is doing. It is absolutely inhumane.

I think the same. I am not a government official of Nicolas Maduro. I have no links with the Nicolas Maduro government. I am not their partner or supporter.

marthamarks · « **Reply #20 on:** October 08, 2019, 20:51 »

Quote from: alexandersr on October 08, 2019, 20:19

Quote from: marthamarks on October 08, 2019, 16:24
As an American, I offer you my sincere apologies and good wishes going forward.

Please know that many millions of us are unhappy with the status quo here and working hard to change it.

Thank you, very much!

You are very welcome.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #21 on:** October 09, 2019, 08:59 »

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/Documents/13884.pdf

I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, in order
to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared
in Executive Order 13692 of March 8, 2015 (Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela),
as amended, as relied upon for additional steps taken in subsequent Executive
Orders, and in light of the continued usurpation of power by Nicolas Maduro
and persons affiliated with him, as well as human rights abuses, including
arbitrary or unlawful arrest and detention of Venezuelan citizens, interference
with freedom of expression, including for members of the media, and ongoing
attempts to undermine Interim President Juan Guaido and the Venezuelan
National Assembly’s exercise of legitimate authority in Venezuela, hereby
order:

Speaking about human rights abuses, arbitrary and unlawful arrests and detention, etc, etc, he has no problems with the Saudi King and his government killing American residents, chopping and dissolving their bodies...

jonbull · « **Reply #22 on:** October 09, 2019, 09:06 »

jonbull · « **Reply #23 on:** October 09, 2019, 09:10 »

so why russian contributor are let do business with usa company _ is the same situation even worst considering russia has invaded a country, there are already tons of economic penalty regarding russian activities, russi is the same political dictatorship country.

marthamarks · « **Reply #24 on:** October 09, 2019, 09:14 »

Quote from: jonbull on October 09, 2019, 09:10

so why russian contributor are let do business with usa company _ is the same situation even worst considering russia has invaded a country, there are already tons of economic penalty regarding russian activities, russi is the same political dictatorship country.

Don't expect consistency from America's would-be emperor, especially as regards Russia.

Quote from: Zero Talent on October 09, 2019, 08:59

Speaking about human rights abuses, arbitrary and unlawful arrests and detention, etc, etc, he has no problems with the Saudi King and his government killing American residents, chopping and dissolving their bodies...

Exactly right. And he would do the same thing to his political opponents here if he thought he could get away with it. So far, we haven't reached that point. Not yet.

Sad.

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