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« on: March 05, 2012, 17:41 »
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Could be just a blip but Feb was 50% above normal and I seem to be getting more dls per week than I'm used to getting per month - more dls than even SS in the last week.


wut

« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2012, 17:44 »
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Could be just a blip but Feb was 50% above normal and I seem to be getting more dls per week than I'm used to getting per month - more dls than even SS in the last week.

Yes, it was up, earnings doubled, but still at less than 15% of SS for me

« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2012, 17:58 »
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Could be just a blip but Feb was 50% above normal and I seem to be getting more dls per week than I'm used to getting per month - more dls than even SS in the last week.

Jezz you a selling tutorial Poser, DAZ and other low polly models as you own work?!?
unbelievable
Prepare you self to be kicked off really soon from most agencies...
[sse][/sse]

« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2012, 18:19 »
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Could be just a blip but Feb was 50% above normal and I seem to be getting more dls per week than I'm used to getting per month - more dls than even SS in the last week.

Jezz you a selling tutorial Poser, DAZ and other low polly models as you own work?!?
unbelievable
Prepare you self to be kicked off really soon from most agencies...
[sse][/sse]

No, Im not selling models, Im licensing images created using (mostly) 3rd party models with EULAs  appropriate for this use.  This is exactly the same as a photographer creating images of objects or models not created by him/herself.   Two further points (assuming you make images and the depicted models):
Unless youre writing the actual code you are using tools just as I am, the only difference is the degree of separation from the final image,
If you can produce better models than those available from Poser or Daz, you could probably make much more doing that than selling penny stock.


Edit had a look at your port on IS expecting to see Mark Evans style images.  Instead I see snapshots of luggage, photo frames etc, presumably without a licence from the manufacturers.  Sorry, but you simply dont have the credentials to make that kind of statement.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 19:19 by heywoody »

lisafx

« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2012, 18:24 »
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Nope, no sales increase here.  But then, I am an Emerald, and they decided some time last year to rig their search engine against high ranking (expensive) members.  Bet they're saving a bundle in royalties.

Microstock Man

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2012, 18:52 »
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Sales have definitely improved for me. Getting way more than I used to, but royalties are just SO LOW.

wut

« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2012, 19:05 »
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Sales have definitely improved for me. Getting way more than I used to, but royalties are just SO LOW.

Indeed they are. But still, it can be a lot worse at other sites, at 123RF you get payed for a full sized DL (21 mpix in my case) the same as at FT for an M (2 mpix) DL

« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2012, 19:21 »
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Also helps if you get paid in euros  ;)

wut

« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2012, 19:29 »
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Also helps if you get paid in euros  ;)

Unfortunately I don't...

Paulo M. F. Pires

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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2012, 20:00 »
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As I said in other topic somewhere , I notice an increase on the begin of the year ( more daily sales ), including weekends. But not yet enough to call my next daughter as "Fotolia Junior" :D

ayzek

« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2012, 02:27 »
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Could be just a blip but Feb was 50% above normal and I seem to be getting more dls per week than I'm used to getting per month - more dls than even SS in the last week.

Jezz you a selling tutorial Poser, DAZ and other low polly models as you own work?!?
unbelievable
Prepare you self to be kicked off really soon from most agencies...
[sse][/sse]

No, Im not selling models, Im licensing images created using (mostly) 3rd party models with EULAs  appropriate for this use.  This is exactly the same as a photographer creating images of objects or models not created by him/herself.   Two further points (assuming you make images and the depicted models):

i bought many of the Evermotion models and i get personally stock use permissions from them but istock told me that i can only use my own models:(   they dont care about right EULA.
They also told that we can not use stock photo or other textures for our models texture. we need to create them also:(
i agree with you. We should use models and Textures in our scenes to be more creative but also there must be some restriction about using models and texture to prevent people to use them main subject.
Agencies have educated inspectors for Copyrights and trade marks but dont have educated inspectors for 3D scenes this subjects. They choose easiest way and they say that you can not use models and texture if you are not their owners. There is many contributors that using evermotion models and well known textures. i dont know how they will prevent this.
Also they are not officially saying that but in the forums some people told that you can use models if its not main subject and not bigger than 20% of scene :(
Anyway i dont use any textures and models that i am not owner.

 

« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2012, 06:24 »
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If you think about it, the purpose of these models is to be used to create images.  If the situation arose where such images couldn't be used commercially the creators of the models would be less happy than the creators of the subsequent images because THEIR sales would go down the toilet - it would be like saying that a designer couldn't incorporate a stock image purchased for a project.  The big 4 have absolutely no problem with such images at the moment as they understand the licencing - some like the style of image less than others though.  Some of the same restrictions that apply to photographs still apply, e.g. I couldn't do superman and batman even if I made the costumes myself for copyright reasons and SS have stopped 3D renders of furniture, not because of 3rd party models, but the risk that the models might be based on actual furniture designs and they have quite a lot of these already.  Dunno about evermotion, must google them.

« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2012, 06:36 »
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increase? yes.

big? no.

« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2012, 07:31 »
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Nope, no sales increase here.  But then, I am an Emerald, and they decided some time last year to rig their search engine against high ranking (expensive) members.  Bet they're saving a bundle in royalties.

+1

lagereek

« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2012, 08:35 »
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Nope, no sales increase here.  But then, I am an Emerald, and they decided some time last year to rig their search engine against high ranking (expensive) members.  Bet they're saving a bundle in royalties.

Not by much but its noticable, I didnt know they rig their search against high ranking members? Im Gold myself.

« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2012, 08:49 »
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Nope, no sales increase here.  But then, I am an Emerald, and they decided some time last year to rig their search engine against high ranking (expensive) members.  Bet they're saving a bundle in royalties.

I suspect it may have more to do with customer resistance to higher-priced images. FT have been steadily reducing the upper tier price levels available to high ranking contributors for some time, presumably because of this. I'm not yet Emerald but my sales are well down at FT too. It seems to me that SS are collecting customers from IS, FT and DT.

lagereek

« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2012, 09:00 »
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Nope, no sales increase here.  But then, I am an Emerald, and they decided some time last year to rig their search engine against high ranking (expensive) members.  Bet they're saving a bundle in royalties.

I suspect it may have more to do with customer resistance to higher-priced images. FT have been steadily reducing the upper tier price levels available to high ranking contributors for some time, presumably because of this. I'm not yet Emerald but my sales are well down at FT too. It seems to me that SS are collecting customers from IS, FT and DT.

Yes, SS, is certainly collecting from IS, thats for sure, I dont know about FT and DT, I am doing pretty well at both of these.  I do know this, should anything happen to SS, God forbidd, we are all, bang in trouble.

wut

« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2012, 09:01 »
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Nope, no sales increase here.  But then, I am an Emerald, and they decided some time last year to rig their search engine against high ranking (expensive) members.  Bet they're saving a bundle in royalties.

I suspect it may have more to do with customer resistance to higher-priced images. FT have been steadily reducing the upper tier price levels available to high ranking contributors for some time, presumably because of this. I'm not yet Emerald but my sales are well down at FT too. It seems to me that SS are collecting customers from IS, FT and DT.

I'd say especially DT, not judging by my sales which are not even worth mentioning, but by the thread is DT still alive, in which just about everyone has seen a (big) drop in sales (save for an exclusive or two)

« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2012, 09:27 »
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September 2011   100    
October 2011       108    
November 2011    129    
December 2011    103    
January 2012        119    
February 2012      152

I do see an increase as a low earner, I am Silver for only 2 months, only 67 files in the last 6 months

« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2012, 09:41 »
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I see quite some increase at FT (I think I am silver but since they changed the site I don't know where to find this anymore). This week 300% more than DT which is very unusual. As they pay so little for a download I haven't uploaded images in the last year apart from about twenty in january to see how new images go. SS is not doing too well for me though. Today so far I sold 3 (!) which is a WDE (since 2007) for me.

tab62

« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2012, 10:21 »
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Decrease for me to include all others stocks companies... :-\

« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2012, 11:07 »
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The reason I asked is that I've seen a statistically huge rise (although we are talking actual small numbers) during Feb and going into March together with comments made by various people on the DT thread Wut mentioned.  I have a sense from the responses that there is generally a noticable increase (lower prices???) with probably a temporary blip also as far as I'm concerned.  For the real players who seem to be holding their own in the face of more competition and whose ports will be (statistically) not growing month to month, I wonder if no reduction could be regarded in the same way as an increase for the rest of us?

« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2012, 12:28 »
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I am doing well in FT (looking at my own numbers comparing to DT, IS, 123RF) but I decided to make some calculations to understand how fair the royalties are, I "dont understand" why they are the only agency not paying what a buyer actually PAID for (IS, DT, 123RF, SS dont do this)

($ 1.30 / credit) 25 credits = $ 32.50 15.38%
($ 1.27 / credit) 51 credits = $ 65.00 15.74%
($ 1.26 / credit) 103 credits = $ 130.00 15.87%
($ 1.18 / credit) 275 credits = $ 325.00 16.94%
($ 1.08 / credit) 600 credits = $ 650.00 18.51$
($ 0.96 / credit) 1,350 credits = $ 1,300.00 20.83%
($ 0.87 / credit) 3,000 credits = $ 2,600.00 22.98%
($ 0.74 / credit) 7,000 credits = $ 5,200.00 27.02%

« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2012, 13:25 »
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I am doing well in FT (looking at my own numbers comparing to DT, IS, 123RF) but I decided to make some calculations to understand how fair the royalties are, I "dont understand" why they are the only agency not paying what a buyer actually PAID for (IS, DT, 123RF, SS dont do this)

Doesn't SS do the same as we get fixed amounts for credit sales irrespective of the buyer package?

« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2012, 13:50 »
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I am doing well in FT (looking at my own numbers comparing to DT, IS, 123RF) but I decided to make some calculations to understand how fair the royalties are, I "dont understand" why they are the only agency not paying what a buyer actually PAID for (IS, DT, 123RF, SS dont do this)

Doesn't SS do the same as we get fixed amounts for credit sales irrespective of the buyer package?

I believe we cannot add SS to the equation, not only because they are mostly subscription (I have 69% subs) and even if we make calculations 200EUR (263$) for 750 pictures (0.35$) and YES buyers may not donwload all 750 but any person can reach the 0.36$ rate quite fast, we need to add the fact that they never claimed or talked about this or that %, they always had flat rates

regarding OD, the all size, is 51$ for 5 files, 10.2$ (the most expensive) there is one for 25 files for 235$, 9.4$

Earnings per Download   Lifetime Earnings
$1.88   Less than $500 - 18.4% - 20%
$2.48   $500 to $3,000 - 24.3% - 26.4%
$2.70   $3,000 to $10,000 - 26.4% - 28.7%
$2.85   Over $10,000 - 27.9% - 30.3%
« Last Edit: March 06, 2012, 14:15 by luissantos84 »


 

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