Author Topic: How are we compensated for these print sales? (Read 5027 times)

Mona · « **on:** August 10, 2013, 23:02 »

I happened to see this picture of mine being sold as canvas print, image source is Fotolia. http://www.gallerydirect.com/art/product/stock/buckwheat-flour/45585215 I browsed around some more and saw that all the images are from Fotolia.

Since the images obviously are a product that are sold multiple times as prints I assume that we are getting paid for extended licenses. Are we? Does anyone know?

Thanks.

JPSDK · « **Reply #1 on:** August 11, 2013, 02:29 »

I found my images on a wall paper site and I asked fotolia about exactly that question: If extended licences were needed for prints (when the image is the major value of the good).
And fotolia confirmed that that sort of usage required an extended licence.

Then I looked at the prices at the wall paper art and saw that "Price of image not included", and concluded that either they didnt sell many prints or they cheated with the licences.

That again let me to think it was an unwise partnership for fotolia to have.
and I did nothing about it, I just lost a new bit of faith in the agencies.

Mona · « **Reply #2 on:** August 11, 2013, 09:21 »

Quote from: JPSDK on August 11, 2013, 02:29

I found my images on a wall paper site and I asked fotolia about exactly that question: If extended licences were needed for prints (when the image is the major value of the good).
And fotolia confirmed that that sort of usage required an extended licence.

Then I looked at the prices at the wall paper art and saw that "Price of image not included", and concluded that either they didnt sell many prints or they cheated with the licences.

That again let me to think it was an unwise partnership for fotolia to have.
and I did nothing about it, I just lost a new bit of faith in the agencies.

Thanks for the response.

Right, that's how I feel. We are already paid peanuts for our work as it is, and no way tracking sales for whether we are paid according to what we have agreed with the agencies or not.

I guess no one else has anything to say, or they are not concerned about potentially being paid 29 cents instead of $25.00?

cuppacoffee · « **Reply #3 on:** August 11, 2013, 10:04 »

The use of your image is not illegal if it is only displayed as a option for buyers. Some sites do this legally. They can offer your image for sale on a print or canvas but only need to buy the license if it is sold for that use, not just offered as a choice. I have a photo on (only) one microsite (so it's easy to track the sales) that is offered as an option on a chain of sites that sell canvas prints and every time it is sold I get a license sale. They are required to purchase an extended license every time the image is sold, and they do. I'm not saying that is the case here, but some print on demand sites do follow the rules.

gostwyck · « **Reply #4 on:** August 11, 2013, 10:44 »

Quote from: cuppacoffee on August 11, 2013, 10:04

The use of your image is not illegal if it is only displayed as a option for buyers. Some sites do this legally. They can offer your image for sale on a print or canvas but only need to buy the license if it is sold for that use, not just offered as a choice. I have a photo on (only) one microsite (so it's easy to track the sales) that is offered as an option on a chain of sites that sell canvas prints and every time it is sold I get a license sale. They are required to purchase an extended license every time the image is sold, and they do. I'm not saying that is the case here, but some print on demand sites do follow the rules.

I guess it depends on the source agency but I'm not even sure that an EL is always required (assuming that only one canvas print is being bought) they might just need to buy the image at full-size. Some years ago Istock started selling prints from their own site (and DT too if I remember correctly) and no EL was required back then.

picture5469 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 11, 2013, 12:49 »

I feel i need to start clicking away on more image deletions for FT

Mona · « **Reply #6 on:** August 11, 2013, 13:28 »

Thanks for the responses. I would understand them buying an extended license and then printing one or one thousand. That's just fine.

It would be lovely if the agencies would inform us who their partners are and what we are compensated for those sales.

Microstock is some shady business...

gillian vann · « **Reply #7 on:** August 13, 2013, 18:35 »

yes it is. Fotolia also has some deal with GoDaddy that gives users free stock images. i've not idea how that works.

ShadySue · « **Reply #8 on:** August 13, 2013, 18:51 »

Quote from: Mona on August 10, 2013, 23:02

I happened to see this picture of mine being sold as canvas print, image source is Fotolia. http://www.gallerydirect.com/art/product/stock/buckwheat-flour/45585215 I browsed around some more and saw that all the images are from Fotolia.

Since the images obviously are a product that are sold multiple times as prints I assume that we are getting paid for extended licenses. Are we? Does anyone know?

Thanks.

That image has a fotolia copyright on it, so probably it hasn't had a licence bought at all. (or it may be a comp which has made its way onto the site).
Maybe contact fotolia directly and see what they say?

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