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« Reply #175 on: February 09, 2010, 08:11 »
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It is now Day 9 since this issue started - and still no word!


« Reply #176 on: February 09, 2010, 09:53 »
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I asked a few questions yesterday and got a few answers , it all boils down to our credit as contributors has not changed and juging from the answers I got is not going to change.


Ok I sent this to support today as adivsed by THE CHAD



Hiya

Chad posted on the forum almost a week ago on the above subject, the new perchase incentives have now been in place for a week and mean that 1 Credit for a buyer is worth 1 sterling or $1.20.

When will the new commission structure be in place so both buyers and contributors will be on a level playing field ?

Thanks

Warren



And this reply has just come back ....... I read it that nothing is going to change dont know about you ?? what you think ?


Thank you for your inquiry. Our website has been updated to all the new structures - both for buyers and contributors.

Both buyers and contributors benefit under this new
structure. We've provided buyers with incentives to purchase more credits through our credit bundle purchase options.

Depending on the quantity purchased, bundle credits range from 0.63 - 1. When customers purchase bundles that put credits to a value of under 1, contributors are still paid
out at 1.

Fotolia is still able to offer some of the highest commissions in the business. Plus, unlike other stock sites, Fotolia honors free and promotional credits as if they are regular sales.

Kind regards,

Fotolia Team U.K.
0208 816 72 84




So sent this and here are the replys also !!


Hiya your answer is below to my last question and thanks but can you confirm that the buyers credit is worth 1 and the contributors credit is worth 0.75 and will not be changing from 0.75 ?

Thanks




Reply  


I'm sorry but I don't understand your question. Could you please clarify?

Kind regards,

Fotolia Team U.K.
0208 816 72 84 2010-02-08 08:28 pm



So made it a bit more simple


Is a contributors credit still worth 0.75 and if so is that amount going to change ?

Warren



and the reply


For contributors + 0.75 (as before). Please see also the contributor page as any updates would also be made here:

http://en.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors

Kind regards,

Fotolia Team U.K.
0208 816 72 84



So no dont think things are about to change anytime soon


« Reply #177 on: February 09, 2010, 10:14 »
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Truly great communicators. They should have worked in the Nixon White House. 




« Reply #178 on: February 09, 2010, 10:16 »
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It starts to look like they will leave it at this. No more info, no more changes.

The ThinkStockPhoto came at right moment for them dragging much of the attention ...
« Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 10:25 by Danicek »

donding

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« Reply #179 on: February 09, 2010, 10:23 »
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Sounds like a "copy and paste" response.....grrrrrr

« Reply #180 on: February 09, 2010, 11:11 »
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Depending on the quantity purchased, bundle credits range from 0.63 - 1. When customers purchase bundles that put credits to a value of under 1, contributors are still paid out at 1.

^ Just a portion from FT's reply to Warren.

Am I misunderstanding this. Does is say we are paid at the rate of 1?

« Reply #181 on: February 09, 2010, 11:38 »
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Depending on the quantity purchased, bundle credits range from 0.63 - 1. When customers purchase bundles that put credits to a value of under 1, contributors are still paid out at 1.

^ Just a portion from FT's reply to Warren.

Am I misunderstanding this. Does is say we are paid at the rate of 1?


massman,

I honestly think its a play on words, think it means that even if buyers go for the 0.63 bundle we still get paid as if they have paid 1 ....... It forgets to say thet our credits are not 1 but 0.75 ....... its just spin they will be using phrases like "In real terms"......... "at todays value"   etc, soon.

« Reply #182 on: February 09, 2010, 11:56 »
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Was Bernie Madoff involved in Fotolia?

lisafx

« Reply #183 on: February 09, 2010, 12:50 »
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Depending on the quantity purchased, bundle credits range from 0.63 - 1. When customers purchase bundles that put credits to a value of under 1, contributors are still paid out at 1.

^ Just a portion from FT's reply to Warren.

Am I misunderstanding this. Does is say we are paid at the rate of 1?

Only contributors signed up through British Fotolia are paid at the one Pound rate. (sorry I don't have that symbol on my keyboard), just as those signed up through European Fotolia sites are paid at the rate of one Euro, as I understand it.

If you are in USA then your credit is worth $1. 

« Reply #184 on: February 09, 2010, 12:52 »
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Depending on the quantity purchased, bundle credits range from 0.63 - 1. When customers purchase bundles that put credits to a value of under 1, contributors are still paid out at 1.

^ Just a portion from FT's reply to Warren.

Am I misunderstanding this. Does is say we are paid at the rate of 1?

Only contributors signed up through British Fotolia are paid at the one Pound rate. (sorry I don't have that symbol on my keyboard), just as those signed up through European Fotolia sites are paid at the rate of one Euro, as I understand it.

If you are in USA then your credit is worth $1. 

Yeah, but theirs is not worth one pound but 0.75 pound. I really think that's just typo in support's message.

« Reply #185 on: February 09, 2010, 12:55 »
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Okay, I see, usual FT double talk. A is not really a it's an FT , which is sort of like a , but not really.

donding

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« Reply #186 on: February 09, 2010, 13:00 »
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Okay, I see, usual FT double talk. A is not really a it's an FT , which is sort of like a , but not really.

Be careful...you're starting to sound like them..... :D :D :D

lisafx

« Reply #187 on: February 09, 2010, 13:10 »
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Yeah, but theirs is not worth one pound but 0.75 pound. I really think that's just typo in support's message.

Oooops!  My mistake.  Sorry.

« Reply #188 on: February 09, 2010, 14:43 »
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I think they would get themselves off the hook more easily just telling the truth in plain English and saying it is out tough luck, rather than pretending that they can't understand.

Or maybe they have been so indoctinated with Fotolese that they don't understand English any longer.

« Reply #189 on: February 09, 2010, 15:15 »
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This whole thing now smells very fishy to me. All the evasions and double-speak can't be simpley attributed to a language barrier.  Either there's an internal conflict at Fotolia, or there's been a de facto decision to simply obfuscate the entire relation between buyer and contributor payments, freeing Fotolia to run any sales and pricing schemes they choose.

I'm giving them a couple more days in which to post a clear and complete statement of how contributors are paid, and I'm not holding my breath expecting one.  After that, I'm closing my account.  Ironically, it's not about the money - this is a hobby thing for me at present. I just don't want these people (and their so-called "partners") in possession of my images.

« Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 16:21 by stockastic »

« Reply #190 on: February 09, 2010, 15:40 »
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Anyone know what it would take to start a class action suit?

« Reply #191 on: February 09, 2010, 16:57 »
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Depending on the quantity purchased, bundle credits range from 0.63 - 1. When customers purchase bundles that put credits to a value of under 1, contributors are still paid out at 1.

^ Just a portion from FT's reply to Warren.

Am I misunderstanding this. Does is say we are paid at the rate of 1?

Only contributors signed up through British Fotolia are paid at the one Pound rate. (sorry I don't have that symbol on my keyboard), just as those signed up through European Fotolia sites are paid at the rate of one Euro, as I understand it.

If you are in USA then your credit is worth $1. 


Yeah that right in the states as a contributor your credit woth is $1.00 .... but a buyers credit worth is $1.20

« Reply #192 on: February 09, 2010, 17:06 »
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It dont matter what you get paid in, Pounds Dollar or the Euro your credit worth is lower than the buyers credit worth.

But Fotolia are saying (with the bundles) the average credit of a buyer is the same as your credit which is true, but at the end of the day if a buyer buys just one credit to buy just one of your photos he will then be paying a lot more for that credit in Fotolia money than Fotolia are giving you for that one credit !!

The only way, as i say, to be on a par with the contributor is to buy into the higher price bundles, and the only reason that then the buyer is paying the same in value of credits is because then Fotolia give extra credits as a bonus and that brings down the price of the credit for the buyer !!

Pheww hope you all understand that ??

« Reply #193 on: February 09, 2010, 17:20 »
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Pheww hope you all understand that ??
I had to read it 4 times, but I think I finally got what you meant.  :)

« Reply #194 on: February 09, 2010, 17:26 »
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It dont matter what you get paid in, Pounds Dollar or the Euro your credit worth is lower than the buyers credit worth.

But Fotolia are saying (with the bundles) the average credit of a buyer is the same as your credit which is true, but at the end of the day if a buyer buys just one credit to buy just one of your photos he will then be paying a lot more for that credit in Fotolia money than Fotolia are giving you for that one credit !!

The only way, as i say, to be on a par with the contributor is to buy into the higher price bundles, and the only reason that then the buyer is paying the same in value of credits is because then Fotolia give extra credits as a bonus and that brings down the price of the credit for the buyer !!

Pheww hope you all understand that ??

But then it also depends on both the currency used to buy the credit and where the contributor, whose image is downloaded, lives. There's up to a 40% differential on that alone. That's neither fair nor transparent.

« Reply #195 on: February 10, 2010, 12:03 »
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will ever FT respect contributors??

« Reply #196 on: February 10, 2010, 12:28 »
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But then it also depends on both the currency used to buy the credit and where the contributor, whose image is downloaded, lives. There's up to a 40% differential on that alone. That's neither fair nor transparent.


Thats always been the case gostwyck, not saying thats right but this value change in the buyers credit only came into effect on the 1st Feb 2010

donding

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« Reply #197 on: February 10, 2010, 14:58 »
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I was going to purchase credits from another photographer so I could reach my payout and bailout, but in order for me to purchase 22 credits, which is all I needed to add to my 28 to cash out, it would cost me $30.00 because their currency was in Euros and mine is in $$$. That's an example of the differences in currencies depending on which one you get paid with.

« Reply #198 on: February 10, 2010, 15:01 »
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But then it also depends on both the currency used to buy the credit and where the contributor, whose image is downloaded, lives. There's up to a 40% differential on that alone. That's neither fair nor transparent.

Thats always been the case gostwyck, not saying thats right but this value change in the buyers credit only came into effect on the 1st Feb 2010

Exactly.  It's unfair, but what we must focus at this moment is in the change of price with stagnant commission. 

« Reply #199 on: February 11, 2010, 01:31 »
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Exactly.  It's unfair, but what we must focus at this moment is in the change of price with stagnant commission. 


I totaly agree madelaide, but it seems to have died a bit on the fotolia forums and THE CHAD seems to have forgot too !!!


 

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