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« Reply #125 on: October 15, 2020, 13:20 »
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I buy a lot of stock as well as contribute. Some of my clients are very budget-conscious (a nice way of saying cheap) and once they get word that Adobe offers free stock images they will never want to pay for stock again.

Microstock killed traditional stock. Giving away images for free will kill microstock.


« Reply #126 on: October 15, 2020, 13:21 »
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They work ok for me. safari ipad also logged into AS
« Last Edit: October 15, 2020, 13:23 by cathyslife »

« Reply #127 on: October 15, 2020, 13:21 »
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JoAnne, none of those links are working for me.

I just tried a couple and they worked. Chrome, MacOS, I am logged in to Adobe Stock (although that shouldn't matter)...

Weird.  I'm in FF, and I'm signed in in another tab, but searching AS thinks I'm not signed in and won't show me anything.  I keep getting page not found.  Guess it's me somehow.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #128 on: October 15, 2020, 13:24 »
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JoAnne, none of those links are working for me.

I just tried a couple and they worked. Chrome, MacOS, I am logged in to Adobe Stock (although that shouldn't matter)...

Just tried a couple which worked: FF, Win, not logged in

« Reply #129 on: October 15, 2020, 13:39 »
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JoAnne, none of those links are working for me.

I just tried a couple and they worked. Chrome, MacOS, I am logged in to Adobe Stock (although that shouldn't matter)...

Just tried a couple which worked: FF, Win, not logged in

I must have some bad cookies.  I opened a private window and I could see them.

« Reply #130 on: October 15, 2020, 13:41 »
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Mat, One more suggestion for results when there's nothing found in the free section

A one word search where video was the media selected and there were no free results showed one row of images, and then one of videos, one in 3D and the last "All Free" where it's just images from the free collection.

If a buyer has specifically selected videos, showing images first isn't helpful. Show videos from the paid section. If you must add something from the free section, show videos, not images.

« Reply #131 on: October 15, 2020, 13:42 »
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Mat, One more suggestion for results when there's nothing found in the free section

A one word search where video was the media selected and there were no free results showed one row of images, and then one of videos, one in 3D and the last "All Free" where it's just images from the free collection.

If a buyer has specifically selected videos, showing images first isn't helpful. Show videos from the paid section. If you must add something from the free section, show videos, not images.

That's a great suggestion, thanks Jo Ann.


« Reply #132 on: October 15, 2020, 14:10 »
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100 donwloads/day is way too much.
My personal opinion is that also 1 download/day for free is too much, but you are the experts. So i'll wait for a grow on my earnings,
thanks to your strategy.

« Reply #133 on: October 15, 2020, 14:27 »
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Now, there is at least a chance to convert the people visiting for the free collection into paying customers.

Maybe, but there's a better chance of converting paying customers to the free content.  I mean someone who isn't likely to pay, who is drawn in by high quality free content might buy one or two of something they find missing in that tier.  But the paying customer, I would imagine, is more likely to not buy as many as possible and choose from the free section instead.


I agree. If I was a small or medium sized business with a subscription, I'd switch to the $29.99 smallest subscription plan today, and supplement the rest with free images. The quality is very good right now.   I do think they'll gain some customers through this though, and probably sell more creative cloud subscriptions through it by bringing people in.

« Reply #134 on: October 15, 2020, 14:32 »
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My experience in life has taught me that there is NOTHING FREE.


Except Copyright.

« Reply #135 on: October 15, 2020, 14:48 »
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The stock of AS is not a business, for the company, it is a satellite company, a complement to the Cloud.

It is a benefit to contribute to your star software. Although it is not beneficial, it serves Adobe as a tool complement to its software.

It's like the old Corel clipart. A tool to your software. One more service to your customers.

Maybe they will stick with Freepik clients.
What a crazy business.

We will celebrate, get to Christmas healthy. Covid crap.

« Reply #136 on: October 15, 2020, 15:19 »
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Now, there is at least a chance to convert the people visiting for the free collection into paying customers.

Maybe, but there's a better chance of converting paying customers to the free content.  I mean someone who isn't likely to pay, who is drawn in by high quality free content might buy one or two of something they find missing in that tier.  But the paying customer, I would imagine, is more likely to not buy as many as possible and choose from the free section instead.

yep - i've heard the same argument for over 40 years - we'll publish your photo/recipe/game/article/software and won't pay you, but the exposure will bring you paying customers. it just doesnt work - it's easy for AS to think/hope it works - what have they got to lose? quite a different story for those who only gain from sales, not promises

perhaps there will a few who pay after getting free pix - but where's the analysis(evidence/case history) showing it will more than the direct losses from free competition?

« Reply #137 on: October 15, 2020, 15:59 »
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Wow. The free section is extensive. No point making any further investments in this business. I am disgusted with you (Adobe that is). Good bye from me.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2020, 16:26 by focus40 »

« Reply #138 on: October 15, 2020, 17:49 »
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Is there any way to opt out of this travesty? I don't mind if Adobe gives my images away for "free" but I think Adobe should pay me my/our royalty and put it down as an advertising expense.

This move by Adobe makes the offering of being screwed by Shutterstock look very appealing, at least they have enough respect for contributors to pay them 0.10c

« Reply #139 on: October 15, 2020, 18:03 »
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Is there any way to opt out of this travesty? I don't mind if Adobe gives my images away for "free" but I think Adobe should pay me my/our royalty and put it down as an advertising expense.

This move by Adobe makes the offering of being screwed by Shutterstock look very appealing, at least they have enough respect for contributors to pay them 0.10c

You are not opted in to the program so there is nothing to opt out of. Only the pre-selected contributors have content in the free collection. FYI, Adobe Stock does pay contributors the full royalty on the introductory free subscription downloads for new customers.

To clarify, the free collection is not available for contribution outside the initial selected contributors at this time. Your content is not in the free collection. Please review the FAQ from my initial post for additional information and clarification.

Thanks,

Mat

« Reply #140 on: October 15, 2020, 18:20 »
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Is there any way to opt out of this travesty? I don't mind if Adobe gives my images away for "free" but I think Adobe should pay me my/our royalty and put it down as an advertising expense.

This move by Adobe makes the offering of being screwed by Shutterstock look very appealing, at least they have enough respect for contributors to pay them 0.10c

You are not opted in to the program so there is nothing to opt out of. Only the pre-selected contributors have content in the free collection. FYI, Adobe Stock does pay contributors the full royalty on the introductory free subscription downloads for new customers.

To clarify, the free collection is not available for contribution outside the initial selected contributors at this time. Your content is not in the free collection. Please review the FAQ from my initial post for additional information and clarification.

Thanks,

Mat

Thanks for your kind reply Mat, appreciated.

BTW I don't think giving away images for free does any good for contributors.

Cheers!


« Reply #141 on: October 15, 2020, 19:08 »
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@ Mat ....


Mat, I don't want you to misinterpret my words.

I'm really happy for Adobe, really.

Congratulations, you have no rivals. For real. Congratulations.

Also, it suits me very well that you keep the whole market.

Agencies cannot compete against free.

It is not an amateur free. It is a free from paid professionals.

Well.

It can be said that we are Premium.
There are files of extraordinary quality for your clients, renewed and updated by professionals.
And if the client does not find what he wants or needs, there is the payment section, Premium.
Well.
Congratulations, no kidding, AS is going to do very well.
It's a very good maneuver for AS.

« Reply #142 on: October 15, 2020, 19:21 »
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Free has never worked to help contributors-- never.  It might help sell software.   

Paying customers will now want free.

 It will destroy market in the end perhaps.  I

 wish I had not pumped AS after SS fiasco.  Won't again. 

Another thing I do not like.  AS never emailed contributors.  While I am glad Matt came on here to tell us, the very fact that all AS contributors were not told  of this free plan or the fact that we will now have to compete against free images-- tells you contributors truly are NOT a concern for Adobe or respected. 
« Last Edit: October 15, 2020, 20:44 by Hildegarde »

« Reply #143 on: October 15, 2020, 19:27 »
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OH yeah, for contributors it's not a good thing. But nothing, nothing, nothing.

It's news, disastrous x 3

« Reply #144 on: October 15, 2020, 19:32 »
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It will no longer be known how much a photograph has been generated. We don't know what will be downloaded.
Those statistics for 2021 will no longer be possible.
If you can get images to be sold in AS, you will go to the a la carte section. You will receive an invitation to charge for the batch of images.
It's a great plan, very well. Great. For AS.

Nevertheless, it is an exquisite maneuver.
Of an extraordinary talent. Sublime. This should be studied in every university on the planet. It's extraordinary. For Adobe.
SS is white right now, sweating, and crying.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2020, 19:37 by Tenebroso »

gillian vann

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« Reply #145 on: October 15, 2020, 19:45 »
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Please, all stock agencies, stop doing stupid experiments.

With 70,000 free premium photos, any topic is covered.
 
Actually this isn't true, I've had a look and a few of my niche areas aren't covered so that's a relief.

« Reply #146 on: October 15, 2020, 19:50 »
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Hello super niche.

If they need your niche, and you don't accept their conditions, they have an army to fight for that niche. Unless, no one but you can access that niche.

« Reply #147 on: October 15, 2020, 19:57 »
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Adobe is marginalized towards software users and SS is left with those who need raw images.

Maybe not so bright for AS.

He had the advantage of the anger and support of the collaborators. Maybe investing in attracting clients who don't need the software was the way to go.

As @ Mat says, in time it will be seen.

 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

« Reply #148 on: October 15, 2020, 20:01 »
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Hi everyone,

I truly appreciate the feedback you've given so far. As many of you know, I've been an active member in this forum since long before I worked at Fotolia and eventually Adobe Stock. You've always held me accountable and have never been an "easy" group. While you've proven challenging at times, you have consistently earned my respect and you continue to do so. It's why I'm here as much as I am. It's not just me that values your opinions at Adobe Stock. The entire team is grateful for who you are, and what you do. I know I say this a lot, but it's important to me to emphasize it again. Without content creators, Adobe Stock does not exist. We have a great responsibility to you and we take that very seriously.

There are no perfect answers or solutions. Once it seems you've got things figured out, the industry changes. That's the only thing I've found that stays the same in stock as the years go by...change. We cannot realistically expect to continue to do the same things, the same way and find the same results as we have had in the past. If it worked that way, I'd still be submitting everything with massive amounts of Gaussian blur and spot color. We have to adapt and evolve.

It is my mission to provide you all with communication as to how best to navigate and adapt through the changes in a manner that is as timely and as transparent as possible.

I will be out of the (home) office tomorrow (Friday 10/16) as I am traveling with my family to visit my Daughter in Eastern Washington. I won't be able to respond as much the next few days as I have the last two, but I will be checking in as often as I can and I will get back to you with any updates or answers that are needed as soon as possible. Your patience is appreciated in advance.

Sincerely,

Mat Hayward

 

gillian vann

  • *Gillian*
« Reply #149 on: October 15, 2020, 20:03 »
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I just went on the Adobe Free section. I went through about 1000 images... 99% of these images are model/people images. Very good model/people images. If you shot models I would guess your sales will go to zero in the future. It will be interesting to see if Adobe adds more diversity to this collection with different types of images. One of the big contributors was  Rawpixel.com. I do not know this photo house but very heavy on the typical stock model picture. Typical but very good images.

If you want to take a look at the major contributors to the free section - and I agree that for the most part the content is excellent - I made a list of links yesterday.

 

thanks for this Jo! yes, very interesting to see some really great work, and some of it is average, but imho clients don't have quite the same standards as photographers. average photos that are free will still "outsell" (eek) a superior image that costs $$.


 

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