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« on: June 15, 2009, 07:21 »
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Hey all

This month so far I've had only 1 downloaded file on fotolia (on the 4th) which seems strange as according to the statistics section on the site I've had the roughly same no. of Views as all previous months (for an equivilent time-period)
Usually sales for the same period is between 8-10 (FT is now officially my worst performing agency, even 123rf earn more)

I'd guess it's the start of the summer slowdown and I've just caught one of those bad months, but I'm Just wondering if anyone else has seen a massive drop?

Cheers :)
Bob


« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2009, 07:55 »
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I am seeing very similar results on FT as well so far this month, but I have a small portfolio (162 images) so it is probably random fluctuations.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2009, 11:12 by packerguy »

« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2009, 08:54 »
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Much the same for me to. Also my rejections there have gone through the roof all of a sudden. I hope my photography abilities haven't gone into decline.

« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 09:10 »
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It seems to me too drascyc to say MASSIVE drop when you are talking about 7 sales. With those numbers you cant really guess any tendency in the general market, it seems to me more a bad coincidence that you had these weeks, probably will pick up again in the future. Particulary for me is as good seller site as ever.
good luck

« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 09:20 »
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June is slightly better for me than May or April. However, I wouldn't consider my statistics very reliable with only 800 files in a portfolio and about 50-60 sales per month.

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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 10:11 »
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Fotolia is my most recent account (Nov 2008), and it has been the best site for me to date. Even with a tiny portfolio, I am half way in earning to the other Big 6 sites I have for over a year.
It's also the first site that gave me an Extended Lic sales of 6 dollar, and only a couple of days ago, one download in one view on the next day my image got approved.
I would say in my case, Fotolia is the most likely site for me to concentrate my work, would you not think so?

I am keeping my fingers crossed, as I am looking to go exclusive by 2010 with the one that does the best for me in the next 12 months.

« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2009, 10:13 »
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No, things are fairly steady for me. I'm at 300 sales so far this month although subscriptions do seem to be growing stronger at the cost of PPD downloads.

I've already exceeded my total sales for June 2008 which itself was 300% up on June 2007. In my view FT is growing much faster than any other agency.

« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2009, 10:25 »
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Sales are down subs are up UP UP.

« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2009, 11:43 »
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It's weird, since I deleted my entire portfolio at FT my sales there are nil.

« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2009, 12:44 »
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Cool, good to see mixed results from others too :) At least we know the site is fine, just seems I've rolled the dice and come up with a 1 this month :) Cest la vie :)

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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2009, 13:40 »
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Cool, good to see mixed results from others too :) At least we know the site is fine, just seems I've rolled the dice and come up with a 1 this month :) Cest la vie :)

Well, yes, I think as long as there is one sale, it is a reason to be optimistic.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2009, 21:44 by tan510jomast »

« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2009, 14:35 »
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FT sales are OK, but dreamstime sales dropped dramaticaly in last 2 months

« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2009, 16:08 »
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My sales in FT are normal in dlds, but not only subs increased in percentage, but also XS size is selling more than anything else.  My RPD will surely be very small this month.

« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2009, 16:47 »
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Have you noticed that even XL sales are less than $2?

« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2009, 18:00 »
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I can offer a theory from the perspective of a user.  First I'm not surprised, and I'm sorry you have seen a drop in sales.  As you may know, Fotolia requires users to purchase credits for $1 each, but a minimum of 10 credits must be purchased each time.  Then, they keep any unused money once their timeframe for usage has lapsed.  In New York, retailers tried to pull this stunt by voiding gift cards, and the legislators put a stop to it.  It is theft, plain and simple.  Unless a user knows s/he will use all 10 of those credits, they are victims of this fraud.  Any business that uses this type of policy to fill a hole in their revenue should suffer in sales, and reputation.  Perhaps others got wise to their nonsense and went elsewhere for their image needs.  I hope you find a competitor who can provide you with the sales you hope for.  Best of luck.  I'm off Fotolia, and telling my colleagues to do the same!

« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2009, 18:04 »
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I can offer a theory from the perspective of a user.  First I'm not surprised, and I'm sorry you have seen a drop in sales.  As you may know, Fotolia requires users to purchase credits for $1 each, but a minimum of 10 credits must be purchased each time.  Then, they keep any unused money once their timeframe for usage has lapsed.  In New York, retailers tried to pull this stunt by voiding gift cards, and the legislators put a stop to it.  It is theft, plain and simple.  Unless a user knows s/he will use all 10 of those credits, they are victims of this fraud.  Any business that uses this type of policy to fill a hole in their revenue should suffer in sales, and reputation.  Perhaps others got wise to their nonsense and went elsewhere for their image needs.  I hope you find a competitor who can provide you with the sales you hope for.  Best of luck.  I'm off Fotolia, and telling my colleagues to do the same!

istock credits expire too

« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2009, 18:30 »
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I can offer a theory from the perspective of a user.  First I'm not surprised, and I'm sorry you have seen a drop in sales.  As you may know, Fotolia requires users to purchase credits for $1 each, but a minimum of 10 credits must be purchased each time.  Then, they keep any unused money once their timeframe for usage has lapsed.  In New York, retailers tried to pull this stunt by voiding gift cards, and the legislators put a stop to it.  It is theft, plain and simple.  Unless a user knows s/he will use all 10 of those credits, they are victims of this fraud.  Any business that uses this type of policy to fill a hole in their revenue should suffer in sales, and reputation.  Perhaps others got wise to their nonsense and went elsewhere for their image needs.  I hope you find a competitor who can provide you with the sales you hope for.  Best of luck.  I'm off Fotolia, and telling my colleagues to do the same!

Well, if it is any comfort Flora, they are squeezing suppliers commissions too.  Hope to see you on Dreamstime or one of the other sites that values both its buyers and contributors...

« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2009, 21:54 »
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Very disappointing to hear that Fotolia is running that old familiar "gift card expiration date" game.  It's dumb wherever it's used because it turns off buyers, big time. You only need to get burned by it once and you take your business elsewhere.

« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2009, 11:52 »
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Hi all.  Thank you for your thoughts on the issue of Fotolia.  I did indeed visit Dreamstime to read their terms, and they also offer the purchase of credits in blocks - and sadly, unused credits also expire after a year.  I did write to them for clarification, and asked if I could request a refund on unused credits.  They responded within 24 hours, to say the following: 

Thank you for contacting us.Our policy does state that the credits expire in one year.
However, we always allow a grace period and send you an email a month in advance of when the credits expire. If you are unable to use the credits before they expire, we can reinstate these for one time for another year.

A one-year extension is substantial, although still less than optimal.  I guess the rule of thumb is to purchase the minimum amount possible.  Even this seems counter-intuitive, but at least their reply was prompt, thorough, and professional.  I think I will sign up here after all, and continue to warn my colleagues off of Fotolia.  Thank you again for the recommendation.  I wish you all nothing but success with your businesses.  You have collectively changed the stock image industry by sharing your talents with small businesses like mine in a much easier to use, and more affordable way. 

 

 




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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2009, 11:55 »
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FT sales are OK, but dreamstime sales dropped dramaticaly in last 2 months

 same here.
with dreamstime it's a bit strange, as  mostly my oldest work are getting views and downloads (mostly subs).
« Last Edit: June 29, 2009, 21:43 by tan510jomast »

« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2009, 12:21 »
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Hi all.  Thank you for your thoughts on the issue of Fotolia.  I did indeed visit Dreamstime to read their terms, and they also offer the purchase of credits in blocks - and sadly, unused credits also expire after a year.  I did write to them for clarification, and asked if I could request a refund on unused credits.  They responded within 24 hours, to say the following: 

Thank you for contacting us.Our policy does state that the credits expire in one year.
However, we always allow a grace period and send you an email a month in advance of when the credits expire. If you are unable to use the credits before they expire, we can reinstate these for one time for another year.

A one-year extension is substantial, although still less than optimal.  I guess the rule of thumb is to purchase the minimum amount possible.  Even this seems counter-intuitive, but at least their reply was prompt, thorough, and professional.  I think I will sign up here after all, and continue to warn my colleagues off of Fotolia.  Thank you again for the recommendation.  I wish you all nothing but success with your businesses.  You have collectively changed the stock image industry by sharing your talents with small businesses like mine in a much easier to use, and more affordable way. 

 

Sorry to hear the credits expire in only a year's time, but I am happy that Dreamstime at least answered your question promptly and offered the year grace period. 

I hear such nice things about DT from their customers.  It's nice to know they are living up to their reputation :)

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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2009, 21:36 »
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oops sorry. wrong post
« Last Edit: June 29, 2009, 21:42 by tan510jomast »

« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2009, 20:22 »
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less uploads than ever, still same level on downloads....last days better than average.


 

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