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« on: May 01, 2013, 06:35 »
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I am very puzzled why fotolia refuses my images systematically. They are accepted between 50% to 80% at other sites and they are selling. My best selling images have been refused at fotolia and I feel they put a red flag on me for some odd reason. Does anybody else experience the same problem?

I sent them an email for clarification and here is the answer (just a generic answer - probably a cut and paste sentence): "Thank you for your e-mail. Please note that all of your files have been reviewed by our selection team. Also note that the selection team is a separate department, so we have no influence on their decision. The main criteria for validation or rejection are: the quality of the image/video, the technical requirements, the similarity to existing Fotolia photographs and the image's/video's sale potential. We know that it can be difficult to have an image or video rejected but please bear with us. You would be able to view your deleted files by going to: "My Files > Manage My Files > Show Deleted Files (green button located on the right side)". We encourage you to continue uploading your images and videos."

I have attached some samples of refused files:


Poncke v2

« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2013, 06:51 »
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I have to agree with the reviewer, add to that that the review process at FT is quite fickle, your images wont stand a chance at FT. Its not the type of images is interested in.

I am not saying they are bad images, although the HDR could have been done better and the commercial value of the other two is questionable, but please take it from a Fotolia rejection veteran that its not worth the battle, and you wont win the battle either.

I have decided to take their rejections and walk. Dont bother with it anymore.

My best advice is, do the same. Keep submitting your images to FT as they can have a decent return, but ignore the rejections.

« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2013, 06:57 »
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although the HDR could have been done better

How can someone decide on a low resolution image if the HDR is well done? I don't like dirty HDR, it looks fake.

Poncke v2

« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2013, 07:02 »
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although the HDR could have been done better

How can someone decide on a low resolution image if the HDR is well done? I don't like dirty HDR, it looks fake.

Great attitude, I'll leave the thread for now. Good luck with your future endeavors at Fotolia. It seems you are choosing the loggerhead way.

« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2013, 07:33 »
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The pictures look ok to me, but it is hard to see in this size.
Fot doesnt like hdr, they rejected my HDR landscapes until i learned to camouflage the HDR.
As for these, i cannot see much hdr in them.

The spinning machines are historic, and should be able to get downloads. But maybe too few to bother.
The generatores could have been composed better..

Ponckes advice is good. Forget it, dont worry. Always look at the bright side of life.


« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2013, 07:42 »
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They've got plenty of dirty HDR on their site.

« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2013, 07:48 »
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Murky HDRs? Have they? I havent looked.

Something else might come into play.
You might be rated by your acceptance rate.

Like imagine a percentage showing up so the reviewer can see how well you use to perform.

But I dont know. It is just a guess.
Then second advice would be to make pictures you know they will accept.
Or run them through some other agencies first.

If you show me your port, i can better advice you.


« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2013, 08:24 »
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Like I said in my post, the other agencies have accepted 50% to 80% of my uploads. I have sold 9553 images as of today since 2009 on 2 micro stocks. These images have been refused in the past by fotolia. They literally refuse all my batch each time except maybe one image (maybe for the principle). On my last upload I got 100% acceptation at Alamy (new agency for me) and DT.
It is true that when I started, I didn't upload the most interesting images, but I have come around and learnt as I went. The other stocks are making good $ out of me.
I guess my lost to try to upload there.

tab62

« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2013, 08:42 »
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Oh, great!  Poncke is going through a metamorphosis! Only time will tell if V2 is a kinder and nicer Poncke lol...

T

« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2013, 09:17 »
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Oh, great!  Poncke is going through a metamorphosis! Only time will tell if V2 is a kinder and nicer Poncke lol...

T

Way off topic!...is this your output to the OP's post?...or a way to star yet another back and forth argument with Poncke?...make your own thread! nothing funny about this one ;)
« Last Edit: May 01, 2013, 10:24 by [email protected] »

Poncke v2

« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2013, 10:15 »
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Oh, great!  Poncke is going through a metamorphosis! Only time will tell if V2 is a kinder and nicer Poncke lol...

T

This is what I dont get. People tell me to take a break, so I do albeit a short one, and then before I even have said anything remotely nasty, this is what I get. Plus, I have NEVER EVER said anything to you specifically that was not nice. Ever. I dont understand why you of all people had to call me out.

PS: I didnt stick the minus on your comment, just in case


ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2013, 10:17 »
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PS: I didnt stick the minus on your comment, just in case
No, you didn't. I did. I thought it was unhelpful, un-necessary and just stirring.

« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2013, 10:41 »
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PS: I didnt stick the minus on your comment, just in case
No, you didn't. I did. I thought it was unhelpful, un-necessary and just stirring.

So did I, for the same reasons...

tab62

« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2013, 11:35 »
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I apologize poncke- just pulling your leg. Thus got my ears bobbed for being 'smart'. 

Back to the original topic- Hroe you will have to find out what each house likes and doesn't like. There is no one shoe fits all in this business from what I have learn in just my one full year. You can email them and ask- sometimes they will tell you exactly why but not all the time. Just don't get down on rejections we all get them it's just part of the business...

T

Poncke v2

« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2013, 12:18 »
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Thats OK Tom, its just that you are the nice guy around here. Had you placed a winking smiley, it would have been a completely different comment. Cheers, lets get back on topic.

tab62

« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2013, 12:29 »
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Thanks.

Back on FT they have their own kind of images that they like- at least for me it seems studio shots get accepted much higher than my travel images.

« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2013, 14:10 »
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Completely understand the concept, but my point is that they DO sell the images of the subject they have refused from me. I wouldn't write this post otherwise. I see similar images to what they have refused selling well. Don't tell me it's because my images are bad quality and so on. If they were, they wouldn't have been accepted anywhere else.

« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2013, 14:31 »
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Completely understand the concept, but my point is that they DO sell the images of the subject they have refused from me. I wouldn't write this post otherwise. I see similar images to what they have refused selling well. Don't tell me it's because my images are bad quality and so on. If they were, they wouldn't have been accepted anywhere else.

I don't understand the acceptance criteria at FT. No one really does. I also have many files that sell elsewhere that FT refuse. That's the way it is. I don't agree with it but Its not worth worrying about. If I did I would be suffering from depression by now. There have been many similar threads on this issue. My attitude is submit once. If they accept great, if not, crack on with next submissions.

« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2013, 14:34 »
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Completely understand the concept, but my point is that they DO sell the images of the subject they have refused from me. I wouldn't write this post otherwise. I see similar images to what they have refused selling well. Don't tell me it's because my images are bad quality and so on. If they were, they wouldn't have been accepted anywhere else.

I don't understand the acceptance criteria at FT. No one really does. I also have many files that sell elsewhere that FT refuse. That's the way it is. I don't agree with it but Its not worth worrying about. If I did I would be suffering from depression by now. There have been many similar threads on this issue. My attitude is submit once. If they accept great, if not, crack on with next submissions.

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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2013, 16:30 »
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I finally stopped submitting to them last month.  2 or 3 accepted for every 10 rejected just wasn't worth the effort. My shooting style is geared toward SS anyway, since they provide most of my paychecks.
You can't please everybody all the time. If anyone has a portfolio that is 80% accepted and sells well on all of the top 4, then I would love to see it.

tab62

« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2013, 18:04 »
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FT brings in about 6% of my overall earnings thus not too bad but not a top producer for sure...

« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2013, 19:29 »
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Completely understand the concept, but my point is that they DO sell the images of the subject they have refused from me. I wouldn't write this post otherwise. I see similar images to what they have refused selling well. Don't tell me it's because my images are bad quality and so on. If they were, they wouldn't have been accepted anywhere else.

I don't understand the acceptance criteria at FT. No one really does. I also have many files that sell elsewhere that FT refuse. That's the way it is. I don't agree with it but Its not worth worrying about. If I did I would be suffering from depression by now. There have been many similar threads on this issue. My attitude is submit once. If they accept great, if not, crack on with next submissions.

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Exactly. Trying to make sense out of FT rejections is detrimental to your emotional and mental health. Best is to shrug it off and move on.

« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2013, 08:52 »
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Completely understand the concept, but my point is that they DO sell the images of the subject they have refused from me. I wouldn't write this post otherwise. I see similar images to what they have refused selling well. Don't tell me it's because my images are bad quality and so on. If they were, they wouldn't have been accepted anywhere else.

So... assuming you ended up on some kind of black list that still allows you to upload but they reject everything, is the more reasonable explanation? I don't think so.

Your images are - purely topic-wise, I haven't even had a close look - border line for (micro)stock. There are agencies accepting almost everything, there are others who judge by technical quality, again others are judging by potential commercial value, some use a mix of all them. And all have their own ideas about what they like and don't. And that changes over time.

So either you try to figure out what exactly the reason is (did you mention the reason given? ) and try to adapt, or you move on to other topics or other agencies.

« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2013, 12:28 »
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Foltolia is a strange company when accepting photos. About two weeks ago I submitted 40 photos to 8 different companies and had between 37-40 accepted on all eight, except Foltolia, they accepted 4. WTH!
I might take them off my list of submissions, because of the last 40 photos I have sold 16 different ones so far and they reject so many and it's too much effort for the BS!

« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2013, 12:34 »
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Depending on what you do different sites may have a "mental block" / be out of step with their competitors.  I find FT accepts practically everything but my experience with IS is similar to what's outlined here.  After a while you get a sense of what will potentially be accepted and just cut the site out of routine uploads and just give them the occasional one you think will fit.


 

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