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« on: September 05, 2013, 22:03 »
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admin edit.. fixed typo in subject
« Last Edit: September 07, 2013, 01:00 by leaf »


« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2013, 23:14 »
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Just noticed this myself.  If you can set prices, the range says [3-2].  Does that make sense?

« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2013, 23:28 »
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Just noticed this myself.  If you can set prices, the range says [3-2].  Does that make sense?

no, how hard is to inform contributors? ::)

we can't do anything anyway but that would be the minimum...

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2013, 03:14 »
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In don't see this "instant Standard" on that page.

« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2013, 09:21 »
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In don't see this "instant Standard" on that page.

vanished today ;D

« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2013, 09:22 »
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I'm shocked that people aren't weighing in on this.  When a major agency makes a significant change that impacts us, we should all take serious note.

I think the problem is... DARE I SAY IT... that Symbiostock topics are choking everything else out.  There are about a dozen Symbiostock topics pushing this thread way down the list.  A year ago, this thread would have gotten a lot of attention and sparked a lot of conversation.  But today, people aren't seeing it because "how do I do this or that" Symbiostock topics hog up virtually all the space "above the fold."

I'm not a Symbiostock hater ... I consider myself in the "wait and see" camp ... but it really has taken over this forum and made it less useful for those of us on the fence or disinterested in Symbiostock.  Not sure what the solution is, but I can see myself checking this site less and less if this continues.  Just not interested in having to scroll and scroll and scroll to find items that are actually relevant to me.

« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2013, 09:27 »
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« Last Edit: September 06, 2013, 09:47 by luissantos84 »

« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2013, 09:28 »
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I think the problem is... DARE I SAY IT... that Symbiostock topics are choking everything else out.  There are about a dozen Symbiostock topics pushing this thread way down the list.  A year ago, this thread would have gotten a lot of attention and sparked a lot of conversation.   But today, people aren't seeing it because "how do I do this or that" Symbiostock topics hog up virtually all the space "above the fold."


A year ago is, well, a year ago.. it's done and gone..

I have seen this thread and yes a year ago it would have sparked a lot of conversation, but that's not the case today.. it has nothing to do with symbio threads pushing this thread down..

it's more like: "WE DO NOT CARE" what fotolia does or does not.. :D

I don't even upload my vectors there anymore since their price reduction on vectors.. why would I care about what they do.. symbio threads are all over the place because that's what stock artists care about "THESE DAYS"

symbiostock = in
fotolia = out

no matter how hard you want to push it up, times DO change and now we live in a time where we don't care about agencies as much as we used to..

they wanted this by cutting commissions and coming up with ridiculous ideas way too often..

and yes, they succeeded: WE DO NOT CARE  :)
« Last Edit: September 06, 2013, 09:33 by cidepix »

« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2013, 09:30 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 10:54 by Audi 5000 »

Me


« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2013, 09:36 »
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I blocked symbiostock threads a long time ago, I forgot how many there were.  Maybe that has something to do with the declining quality of the forum?ETA:  Ha! I just un-ignored symbiostock and two thirds of the forum is symbiostock.  Back to ignore.

I'm curious, did the decline in quality start around the same time as your increase in snobbery and reduction in tolerance?

« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2013, 09:40 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 10:55 by Audi 5000 »

Me


« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2013, 09:49 »
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I blocked symbiostock threads a long time ago, I forgot how many there were.  Maybe that has something to do with the declining quality of the forum?ETA:  Ha! I just un-ignored symbiostock and two thirds of the forum is symbiostock.  Back to ignore.

I'm curious, did the decline in quality start around the same time as your increase in snobbery and reduction in tolerance?
No snobbery or intolerance here, unless it's intolerant to want to see something else other than symbiostock threads here.  I have nothing against symbiostock, just the massive amounts of threads that clog up the forum.  I planned on unignoring them at some point in the future, I thought they would calm down a bit but I guess not.

TIC  ;)

XPTO

« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2013, 09:54 »
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How can I ignore the Symbiostock topics?

I agree that all those threads simply kill all the visibility from discussions of the other agencies. The ones that for better or worse still pay us the bills.

I would like to see a limit on the number of discussions about any agency displayed in the Recent Discussion page. Let's say 5 topics per agency.

« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2013, 09:55 »
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The simple fact is that most people will not take the extra steps to investigate how to ignore topics and take the action to do so. 

That means people who might have real insights to offer will come to this forum, see dozens of Symbiostock threads that mean nothing to them, and leave.

I have seen the thread about people complaining about Symbiostock overtaking the forum, and the replies of the Sy-embracers saying we just have to hide it if we don't like it, and I myself didn't take the time to follow those steps.  Call me lazy, but the fact is, most people will not jump through those hoops, and they will end up thinking there's little discussion of value here.

Them's the facts.  It's not about snobbery.  To the average visitor, this forum is now nothing but instructions on setting up a Symbiostock site and how to try to make it actually sell. 

Leaf, there needs to be a better answer than making people hide topics if you want this forum to continue to thrive.  Maybe Symbiostock will be a dead issue a year from now and this won't be a problem, but at that point, you may have already lost us for good.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2013, 10:00 by stockmarketer »

« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2013, 09:56 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 10:54 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2013, 09:59 »
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How can I ignore the Symbiostock topics?

I agree that all those threads simply kill all the visibility from discussions of the other agencies. The ones that for better or worse still pay us the bills.

I would like to see a limit on the number of discussions about any agency displayed in the Recent Discussion page. Let's say 5 topics per agency.

have you read this topic? 7th post

« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2013, 10:01 »
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I'm shocked that people aren't weighing in on this.  When a major agency makes a significant change that impacts us, we should all take serious note.

I think the problem is... DARE I SAY IT... that Symbiostock topics are choking everything else out.  There are about a dozen Symbiostock topics pushing this thread way down the list.  A year ago, this thread would have gotten a lot of attention and sparked a lot of conversation.  But today, people aren't seeing it because "how do I do this or that" Symbiostock topics hog up virtually all the space "above the fold."

I'm not a Symbiostock hater ... I consider myself in the "wait and see" camp ... but it really has taken over this forum and made it less useful for those of us on the fence or disinterested in Symbiostock.  Not sure what the solution is, but I can see myself checking this site less and less if this continues.  Just not interested in having to scroll and scroll and scroll to find items that are actually relevant to me.

I agree. Symbiostock is eating up the whole forum. Every little bit of information seems to need a new thread, an there are a score of little bits every day. It shouldn't be too hard to concentrate all in two or three threads.

XPTO

« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2013, 10:03 »
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Profile - Modify Profile - Ignore Boards Options

Thanks a LOT!!! I've looked but couldn't find it for myself.

I don't doubt the value or the usefulness of the symbiostock project but I do believe it's causing serious damages to the usability of this forum.

« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2013, 10:15 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 10:54 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2013, 10:30 »
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The simple fact is that most people will not take the extra steps to investigate how to ignore topics and take the action to do so. 

That means people who might have real insights to offer will come to this forum, see dozens of Symbiostock threads that mean nothing to them, and leave.

I have seen the thread about people complaining about Symbiostock overtaking the forum, and the replies of the Sy-embracers saying we just have to hide it if we don't like it, and I myself didn't take the time to follow those steps.  Call me lazy, but the fact is, most people will not jump through those hoops, and they will end up thinking there's little discussion of value here.

Them's the facts.  It's not about snobbery.  To the average visitor, this forum is now nothing but instructions on setting up a Symbiostock site and how to try to make it actually sell. 

Leaf, there needs to be a better answer than making people hide topics if you want this forum to continue to thrive.  Maybe Symbiostock will be a dead issue a year from now and this won't be a problem, but at that point, you may have already lost us for good.

You surprise me with this one. I've noted how intelligently you have approached microstock, always analysing how to make the biggest buck with your time ... yet you seem unable or unwilling to undertake the couple of clicks it requires to make best use of your time on MSG?

I ignored Symbiostock threads months ago, as soon as they started to take over the front page. Until you started complaining about them I had no idea that they were still going strong.

ShadySue

« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2013, 11:13 »
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I just un-ignored Symbiostock again to look a bit closer at the threads that were there and this forum seemed very different than the one I'm seeing, it doesn't look like the same place at all.  Symbiostock threads make this place look very technical like this forum is about something altogether different than photography (vectors, video, etc..), "VPS or Server", Widgets, Backup Vaultpress, MySQL database, Symbiostock_XML_cache. 
Oh, I've got them on ignore too [1]; and I agree, if I saw that I'd immediately think 'this isn't for me'.
[1] I do think symbiostock is a good idea and wish it well, but clearly I'm 1000 leagues under the techie specs required.

cuppacoffee

« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2013, 11:17 »
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...you seem unable or unwilling to undertake the couple of clicks it requires...

It's not about those who come here often and know the ins and outs of how to ignore certain areas, it's about those who stop by to see if there is anything they might be interested in or have expertise in to add to other conversations - microstock in general. I agree, I've ignored that area since the beginning (after I found out how to do it).

« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2013, 12:07 »
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The simple fact is that most people will not take the extra steps to investigate how to ignore topics and take the action to do so. 

That means people who might have real insights to offer will come to this forum, see dozens of Symbiostock threads that mean nothing to them, and leave.

I have seen the thread about people complaining about Symbiostock overtaking the forum, and the replies of the Sy-embracers saying we just have to hide it if we don't like it, and I myself didn't take the time to follow those steps.  Call me lazy, but the fact is, most people will not jump through those hoops, and they will end up thinking there's little discussion of value here.

Them's the facts.  It's not about snobbery.  To the average visitor, this forum is now nothing but instructions on setting up a Symbiostock site and how to try to make it actually sell. 

Leaf, there needs to be a better answer than making people hide topics if you want this forum to continue to thrive.  Maybe Symbiostock will be a dead issue a year from now and this won't be a problem, but at that point, you may have already lost us for good.

You surprise me with this one. I've noted how intelligently you have approached microstock, always analysing how to make the biggest buck with your time ... yet you seem unable or unwilling to undertake the couple of clicks it requires to make best use of your time on MSG?

I ignored Symbiostock threads months ago, as soon as they started to take over the front page. Until you started complaining about them I had no idea that they were still going strong.

Hi Gostwyck,

I think you and I are a mutual admiration society.  You seem to be the one with whom I agree the most in the forum.  I think I would have a similar reaction to seeing someone post a complaint like mine.  The only reason I haven't ignored Symbiostock threads is that if it ever starts paying off for people, I'd like to see those threads and then reevaluate my decision to sit out on Sy.  Of course, with each passing week that seems less likely to happen, so I might hit that Ignore button sooner than later.

But I'm most concerned about the casual visitor who doesn't know that ignoring is an option.  These people may have really useful insights that could benefit you and me.   I really do think the overall usefulness of the forum is threatened when an important new thread is immediately buried (at least for the 95% of the audience who is not ignoring Sy threads). 

Someone with valuable microstock experience but an infrequent visitor here might stop in, see dozens of Sy threads, and decide,  "nothing for me here" and never come back.  They lose by not seeing the relevant stuff, and you and I lose by not reading their thoughts on things that really matter to us.  A lot of those folks won't bother with investigating how to hide certain topics.  They just won't come back.

XPTO

« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2013, 12:44 »
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I'm a visitor and user of this forum for years now and never knew about the ignore function until today, and considering the steps needed to use the "Ignore" I may say it's not the most intuitive thing to discover.

Especially because I don't recall other forums to have this option, so it wasn't the first thing that occurred to me when when I've started to feel overwhelmed by the symbiostock threads. I believe many are in the same boat as me, and many left after a brief contact with the MSG.

Besides, I really do not want to completely ignore symbiostock as something may come up that interests me. I just can't stand to have ALL the other agencies discussions buried under the tenths of symbiostock discussions that almost monopolize the Recent Discussions page.

Speaking for myself I can say I've reduced dramatically my attention to MSG because of this issue. To me it's not different if MSG was overrun with spam topics about appliances and dating sites.

Hope this filter helps me regain my attention to this forum, but I'm afraid many people has given up, making MSG poorer in terms of different and debating ideas.

Ron

« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2013, 12:48 »
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Oh, I've got them on ignore too [1]; and I agree, if I saw that I'd immediately think 'this isn't for me'.
[1] I do think symbiostock is a good idea and wish it well, but clearly I'm 1000 leagues under the techie specs required.
You dont have to be techie specs at all. Not at all. Only if you want to heavily customise and add all kinds of features. I didnt do any of that and it was a breeze. And I am no techie either


 

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