Author Topic: News from Adobe Max! Applications now accepted for Premium submissions. (Read 16632 times)

MatHayward · « **on:** November 04, 2019, 15:38 »

Hello from Adobe Max! Today it was announced we are now accepting applications for the Premium collection.

Visit stock.adobelanding.com/join-premium to get started!

I’m offline most of the week but will answer your questions as soon as possible.

Cheers!

Mat Hayward

mlwp · « **Reply #1 on:** November 04, 2019, 17:03 »

Hi Mat,

This is great news. But, I don't see a way of submitting an application specifically for the premium collection in the link you provided. Maybe I'm just missing something.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #2 on:** November 04, 2019, 17:17 »

Quote from: mlwp on November 04, 2019, 17:03

Hi Mat,

This is great news. But, I don't see a way of submitting an application specifically for the premium collection in the link you provided. Maybe I'm just missing something.

The entire page is a form with fields for the application.

mlwp · « **Reply #3 on:** November 04, 2019, 17:34 »

All I'm seeing is the Dashboard for my regular (micro) account (if I'm signed in) or the landing page for Adobe Stock (if I'm not). Typing in the URL gives me a 'can't find server' notice.

mlwp · « **Reply #5 on:** November 04, 2019, 18:45 »

No luck with Safari or FF.

Maybe it's trying to tell me something....

marthamarks · « **Reply #6 on:** November 04, 2019, 19:12 »

Quote from: mlwp on November 04, 2019, 18:45

No luck with Safari or FF.

Maybe it's trying to tell me something....

Using Firefox, it opened immediately for me.

https://stock.adobelanding.com/join-premium/

mlwp · « **Reply #7 on:** November 04, 2019, 19:26 »

Thanks Martha. I was able to get to it via Chrome.

Mark

Brightontl · « **Reply #8 on:** November 04, 2019, 22:57 »

Hi Max,
can you give us some more infos about how the Premium collection works?
I suppose it is only for still images, right?

Video-StockOrg · « **Reply #9 on:** November 05, 2019, 03:20 »

will i be able to transfer only photos to Adobe Max from my regular adobe stock account?

georgep7 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 05, 2019, 03:44 »

Apologies for the offtopic but i couldn't resist!

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Hi Max,

Beware!
The friendly Adobe guy previously known as just our own Mat.
Now transformed to
...Mat Max!

Edit, just a suggestion, @Mat now you are the most suitable Adobe person to promote the AE <-> C4D workflow.

You will be the one and only Mat Max the Maxon! LOL!

Stockmaan · « **Reply #11 on:** November 05, 2019, 10:11 »

Hi, thanks for sharing!

Is this premium collection only for exclusive license images?

This premium collection includes videos too?

Thank you Mat!

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #12 on:** November 05, 2019, 10:54 »

Quote from: Brightontl on November 04, 2019, 22:57

Hi Max,
can you give us some more infos about how the Premium collection works?
I suppose it is only for still images, right?

Until Mat gets back, the form said confidential, by invitation only. Not sure I'll qualify. On the other hand, I did find this, which might be helpful for starters?

https://stock.adobe.com/premium

And this from 2016?

https://www.stockphotosecrets.com/news/adobe-stock-update-june-2016.html

Gcarter08 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 06, 2019, 09:27 »

We (Diversity Photos) currently contribute to Premium as well and are looking to add 5 more photographer contributors to our collective. We've had a good experience with premium so far. Our focus is on global diversity. You can check us out at http://adobe.diversityphotos.com or www.diversityphotos.com - feel free to reach out if you're interested.

nahlik · « **Reply #14 on:** November 06, 2019, 12:05 »

HI, Matt,

Is this for US/Canada citizens only? There is only State/Province field in the form, and no Country field. And I am from Poland

Chris

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #15 on:** November 06, 2019, 14:52 »

Is something supposed to happen? I got a confirmation on the page, but it just cleared the fields and stayed there, and I didn't get any email or anything.

Deyan Georgiev Photography · « **Reply #16 on:** November 06, 2019, 20:13 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on November 06, 2019, 14:52

Is something supposed to happen? I got a confirmation on the page, but it just cleared the fields and stayed there, and I didn't get any email or anything.

And I was wondering about this.

Stockmaan · « **Reply #17 on:** November 07, 2019, 10:19 »

Again is this for exclusive content only?

MatHayward · « **Reply #18 on:** November 07, 2019, 13:22 »

Hi everyone,

I apologize for being so vague on the details. Adobe MAX has consumed my attention this week. I felt it was important you all knew there was an opportunity to submit your portfolios for consideration by the Premium team so it wasn't just MAX attendees that had the information. My intent is to reach out to the team early next week to get as many details as I can and to share as much as I can with you.

Thank you for your patience!

Mat Hayward

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #19 on:** November 15, 2019, 18:47 »

Anything on this? I haven't gotten any further emails or any other details. Has anyone?

dooks · « **Reply #20 on:** November 16, 2019, 02:32 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on November 15, 2019, 18:47

Anything on this? I haven't gotten any further emails or any other details. Has anyone?

Nothing yet. I hope Mat will update the info soon.

HalfFull · « **Reply #21 on:** November 16, 2019, 06:58 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on November 15, 2019, 18:47

Anything on this? I haven't gotten any further emails or any other details. Has anyone?

Nope, nothing received here.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #23 on:** November 22, 2019, 16:45 »

Thx for the update!

marthamarks · « **Reply #24 on:** November 22, 2019, 17:21 »

Yes, Mat, I appreciate it too!

obj owl · « **Reply #25 on:** November 22, 2019, 17:31 »

Anybody have a feeling of déjà vu?

https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/what-premier-select-means-for-shutterstock-contributors

but then again Adobe isn't Shutterstock, but then again Shutterstock wasn't Istock.

Stockmaan · « **Reply #26 on:** November 22, 2019, 17:54 »

Quote from: Stockmaan on November 07, 2019, 10:19

Again is this for exclusive content only?

And again is this for exclusive content only?

Anyone knows? Mat?

Thanks

dooks · « **Reply #27 on:** November 23, 2019, 08:56 »

Quote from: Stockmaan on November 22, 2019, 17:54

Quote from: Stockmaan on November 07, 2019, 10:19
Again is this for exclusive content only?

And again is this for exclusive content only?

Anyone knows? Mat?

Thanks

Once accepted, you can submit only exclusive content, I guess. At least that's how it works with almost anything outside microstock.

hellou · « **Reply #28 on:** November 23, 2019, 09:43 »

I'm not applying for a job, dewm I know neither what it is, nor what I deserve. Not even if this is positive or even negative (for a seller !).
For "larger clients"? This usually means very low prices or even unlimited downloads. All this is just embarrassing. What does the customer pay, how much is the commission? What is expected from the photographer? Any info?

Stockmaan · « **Reply #29 on:** November 23, 2019, 13:16 »

Quote from: dooks on November 23, 2019, 08:56

Quote from: Stockmaan on November 22, 2019, 17:54
Quote from: Stockmaan on November 07, 2019, 10:19
Again is this for exclusive content only?

And again is this for exclusive content only?

Anyone knows? Mat?

Thanks
Once accepted, you can submit only exclusive content, I guess. At least that's how it works with almost anything outside microstock.

Thank you for explaining this.

MxR · « **Reply #30 on:** November 25, 2019, 04:36 »

Quote from: dooks on November 23, 2019, 08:56

Quote from: Stockmaan on November 22, 2019, 17:54
Quote from: Stockmaan on November 07, 2019, 10:19
Again is this for exclusive content only?

And again is this for exclusive content only?

Anyone knows? Mat?

Thanks
Once accepted, you can submit only exclusive content, I guess. At least that's how it works with almost anything outside microstock.

NO. Adobes premium is not exclusive. i,m in

dooks · « **Reply #31 on:** November 25, 2019, 05:20 »

Quote from: MxR on November 25, 2019, 04:36

Quote from: dooks on November 23, 2019, 08:56
Quote from: Stockmaan on November 22, 2019, 17:54
Quote from: Stockmaan on November 07, 2019, 10:19
Again is this for exclusive content only?

And again is this for exclusive content only?

Anyone knows? Mat?

Thanks
Once accepted, you can submit only exclusive content, I guess. At least that's how it works with almost anything outside microstock.

NO. Adobes premium is not exclusive. i,m in

Thank you for the info.
How is it premium then, based on what? And if you can sell the same pictures on other agencies maybe even much cheaper, how do they justify premium prices?

MxR · « **Reply #32 on:** November 25, 2019, 05:41 »

Quote from: dooks on November 25, 2019, 05:20

Quote from: MxR on November 25, 2019, 04:36
Quote from: dooks on November 23, 2019, 08:56
Quote from: Stockmaan on November 22, 2019, 17:54
Quote from: Stockmaan on November 07, 2019, 10:19
Again is this for exclusive content only?

And again is this for exclusive content only?

Anyone knows? Mat?

Thanks
Once accepted, you can submit only exclusive content, I guess. At least that's how it works with almost anything outside microstock.

NO. Adobes premium is not exclusive. i,m in
Thank you for the info.
How is it premium then, based on what? And if you can sell the same pictures on other agencies maybe even much cheaper, how do they justify premium prices?

I really asked in up to three emails about the non exclusivity limitation, if there was a maximum or minimum price or any prohibited agency.... and they never answered me. Offset is exclusive to me (for other more fortunate contributors not) and getty is exclusive and abusive for me so those markets in my case were ruled out.
For a similar price you can send the photos to Alamy, upload them to Creative Market at the same price you adobe (and you will never sell any)

Contractually, in my case it was never clear.

I stopped uploading content because I make more money with microstock than with any kind of premium. Upload some family photos that i dont want in micro.

dooks · « **Reply #33 on:** November 25, 2019, 06:06 »

Quote from: MxR on November 25, 2019, 05:41

Quote from: dooks on November 25, 2019, 05:20
Quote from: MxR on November 25, 2019, 04:36
Quote from: dooks on November 23, 2019, 08:56
Quote from: Stockmaan on November 22, 2019, 17:54
Quote from: Stockmaan on November 07, 2019, 10:19
Again is this for exclusive content only?

And again is this for exclusive content only?

Anyone knows? Mat?

Thanks
Once accepted, you can submit only exclusive content, I guess. At least that's how it works with almost anything outside microstock.

NO. Adobes premium is not exclusive. i,m in
Thank you for the info.
How is it premium then, based on what? And if you can sell the same pictures on other agencies maybe even much cheaper, how do they justify premium prices?

I really asked in up to three emails about the non exclusivity limitation, if there was a maximum or minimum price or any prohibited agency.... and they never answered me. Offset is exclusive to me (for other more fortunate contributors not) and getty is exclusive and abusive for me so those markets in my case were ruled out.
For a similar price you can send the photos to Alamy, upload them to Creative Market at the same price you adobe (and you will never sell any)

Contractually, in my case it was never clear.

I stopped uploading content because I make more money with microstock than with any kind of premium. Upload some family photos that i dont want in micro.

Thank you for the quick response.
For example, I contribute to a "macrostock" agency and they ask for content exclusivity. On the other hand, I send my microstock files to EyeEm and if accepted for their Getty portfolio these files are sold side by side with the "macrostock" agency files. And the "macrostock" agency sends their files to, like, 50 partners, Adobe, Offset and Getty being among them. So no exclusivity condition put on them. The whole stock market looks like a complete mess and most of the agencies are asking for premium prices for files that don't justify those prices at all. At the end, as weird as it sounds, microstock market seems to be the most honest and straigthforward market out there.

MxR · « **Reply #34 on:** November 25, 2019, 07:28 »

Quote from: dooks on November 25, 2019, 06:06

Quote from: MxR on November 25, 2019, 05:41
Quote from: dooks on November 25, 2019, 05:20
Quote from: MxR on November 25, 2019, 04:36
Quote from: dooks on November 23, 2019, 08:56
Quote from: Stockmaan on November 22, 2019, 17:54
Quote from: Stockmaan on November 07, 2019, 10:19
Again is this for exclusive content only?

And again is this for exclusive content only?

Anyone knows? Mat?

Thanks
Once accepted, you can submit only exclusive content, I guess. At least that's how it works with almost anything outside microstock.

NO. Adobes premium is not exclusive. i,m in
Thank you for the info.
How is it premium then, based on what? And if you can sell the same pictures on other agencies maybe even much cheaper, how do they justify premium prices?

I really asked in up to three emails about the non exclusivity limitation, if there was a maximum or minimum price or any prohibited agency.... and they never answered me. Offset is exclusive to me (for other more fortunate contributors not) and getty is exclusive and abusive for me so those markets in my case were ruled out.
For a similar price you can send the photos to Alamy, upload them to Creative Market at the same price you adobe (and you will never sell any)

Contractually, in my case it was never clear.

I stopped uploading content because I make more money with microstock than with any kind of premium. Upload some family photos that i dont want in micro.
Thank you for the quick response.
For example, I contribute to a "macrostock" agency and they ask for content exclusivity. On the other hand, I send my microstock files to EyeEm and if accepted for their Getty portfolio these files are sold side by side with the "macrostock" agency files. And the "macrostock" agency sends their files to, like, 50 partners, Adobe, Offset and Getty being among them. So no exclusivity condition put on them. The whole stock market looks like a complete mess and most of the agencies are asking for premium prices for files that don't justify those prices at all. At the end, as weird as it sounds, microstock market seems to be the most honest and straigthforward market out there.

For me it is a financial issue. I put a lot of effort into a macro distribution agency and with better photos my income was lower than my microstock portfolio. More quality demands with brutal screens of content, exclusivity and less money.
The only coherent exclusivity I see is that of Stocksy, but unfortunately I'm not there.

derby · « **Reply #35 on:** November 25, 2019, 15:36 »

In my opinion "exclusivity" with one agency doesn't mean nothing today, because of photographers competition.
From buyer point of view I can find quite any possible similar image in each agency, so why should I pay for "exclusive" image that is not really exclusive, as the agency can sell the same image hundred or thousand times?

"Premium" content has nothing to do with exclusivity, it has to do with the license you buy. Premium content is for big companies that need large number of images with large use licenses: and, of course, as big company you can ask a big discount. So "premium" will never mean more money for contributors, at the contrary it will be less.

Going back in topic: I think Adobe it's very clever not to ask exclusivity, because this is really not a plus. With premium they sell services, I think: they can give selection of images based on specific request, cherry picking of best ones, analyze and give advanced choices to the buyer.

This is only my opinion, of course: I've nothing to do with images agencies, but I work in television programming and I know very very well what kind of research are made by company marketing office, looking for strategies, and what kind of help they ask to external services like image agencies.

If I should look for specific content from (let's say) Adobe video, I would ask for premium services to find right ones, not premium content but premium services.

Real exclusivity (buying exclusive use of an image or clip for limited or unlimited time) is much more expensive, and it's not a "premium" content, it's exclusive license, and its value is thousand of dollars

ONLY MY OPINION!

marthamarks · « **Reply #36 on:** November 25, 2019, 16:01 »

Quote from: MxR on November 25, 2019, 04:36

Quote from: dooks on November 23, 2019, 08:56
Quote from: Stockmaan on November 22, 2019, 17:54
Quote from: Stockmaan on November 07, 2019, 10:19
Again is this for exclusive content only?

And again is this for exclusive content only?

Anyone knows? Mat?

Thanks
Once accepted, you can submit only exclusive content, I guess. At least that's how it works with almost anything outside microstock.

NO. Adobes premium is not exclusive. i,m in

How do you know that???

pancaketom · « **Reply #38 on:** November 25, 2019, 17:22 »

Quote from: MatHayward on November 25, 2019, 16:52

Quote from: Stockmaan on November 22, 2019, 17:54
Quote from: Stockmaan on November 07, 2019, 10:19
Again is this for exclusive content only?

And again is this for exclusive content only?

Anyone knows? Mat?

Thanks

Our Premium collection consists of some exclusive content and some non-exclusive. It varies based on the agreement with the artist.

-Mat

So is this agreement available for viewing anywhere or is it a case of each supplier gets a different agreement? Are some suppliers more equal than others?

derby · « **Reply #39 on:** November 25, 2019, 17:44 »

Quote from: pancaketom on November 25, 2019, 17:22

Are some suppliers more equal than others?

Of course suppliers are different, each one is different.
Why on the earth you should think that in this big competitive market we should be all equal? And why we should receive the same agreement (and just a minute after read post complaining about "competition")?

Once again, I think Adobe is doing good: they select the interesting portfolios and then give a proposal on different base depending on how much do they think is portfolio value.
And then you can accept, or not, or maybe you can ask something different.
I can't see a more fair approach than this. Well, it's the very normal way in which an agency should work with his contributors.

Stockmaan · « **Reply #40 on:** November 26, 2019, 06:10 »

Quote from: MatHayward on November 25, 2019, 16:52

Quote from: Stockmaan on November 22, 2019, 17:54
Quote from: Stockmaan on November 07, 2019, 10:19
Again is this for exclusive content only?

And again is this for exclusive content only?

Anyone knows? Mat?

Thanks

Our Premium collection consists of some exclusive content and some non-exclusive. It varies based on the agreement with the artist.

-Mat

Thanks you Mat for answer!

So, now I am ready to participate if still possible.

Best regards!

KuriousKat · « **Reply #41 on:** December 05, 2019, 11:20 »

Any update on this? Mat said we would hear within two weeks so do we assume that if we didn't hear within that time we didn't make the cut?

KuriousKat · « **Reply #43 on:** December 06, 2019, 06:54 »

Quote from: MatHayward on December 05, 2019, 11:32

Quote from: KuriousKat on December 05, 2019, 11:20
Any update on this? Mat said we would hear within two weeks so do we assume that if we didn't hear within that time we didn't make the cut?

I will personally email anyone that did not make the cut to let them know directly as soon as I get the list.

Thanks for your patience!

Mat

OK, thanks!