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Agency Based Discussion => Adobe Stock => Topic started by: whosvegas on August 25, 2020, 05:27
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Since the SS earnings structure change, there is a drop in my AS sales
Used to have 1 to 4 sales a week
But in August not a single sale!
Is it the vacation period, Corona or is there to much compatition (since the SS structure change)?
How are your August sales on AS?
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1, 0.99 e.
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30 Downloads in August, rpd €0,86
(29 Downloads in Juli, rpd €1,68)
Main areas: Surface backgrounds, Clouds and sunsets, Landscape and some very few covid related images - which don't sell ;-)
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Adobe is on a persistan downwards spiral for me. Since the beginning of July basically every week is worse than the one before.
This month so far I don't even have half the sale numbers of July and July was already worse than June with an rpd of half of June's. Low download numbers and unfortunately also almost only low $-sales.
I am not sure where the problem is, since Mat Hayward claimed that they are having more customers than ever - yet my overall position is also staying the same, so at least everyone who was in a better position than me must be doing equally poorly. Mat also said that in order for images to sell, we should add a "Corona filter" to our images, but I mostly do dog, objects, plants and flatlays, so there is not much possibilities to portrait these things in times of Corona (though I did photograph dogs with face masks - did fairly well on other agencies, but not on Adobe. So I am out of ideas.)
To be fair, August doesn't seem to be a good month for me on all agencies, but on no other agency the change is so drastic. While on iStock and SS my earnings are down by around 20-25% compared to previous months, on Adobe it's by over 70%.
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60 sales with Adobe so far.
However August has been very slow you should also bear in mind that a lot of Europe usually has August as a vacation especially Germany
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Yes, zero sales in August. Even though AS has never been big agency for me, I used to see at least a few downloads a week till July. There's a bit of a decline on SS but just a decrease of 10 percent. More downloads on IS this month than June and July. So this drastic fall appears to be restricted to AS which is increasingly looking like DT or DP for me.
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I've sold 17 images on Adobe Stock during August 2020. Earnings £10.30 :)
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Since the SS earnings structure change, there is a drop in my AS sales
Used to have 1 to 4 sales a week
But in August not a single sale!
Is it the vacation period, Corona or is there to much compatition (since the SS structure change)?
How are your August sales on AS?
I have some sales around 30 Euros in AS.
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Since the SS earnings structure change, there is a drop in my AS sales
Used to have 1 to 4 sales a week
But in August not a single sale!
Is it the vacation period, Corona or is there to much compatition (since the SS structure change)?
How are your August sales on AS?
1 to 4 sales a week is marginally different to 0 sales a week. In other words it's so easy to drop from 4 to 0 for whatever reason and main one being more competing images. If you had say 50 sales a week and dropped to 0 that would be an indicator that something is really wrong.
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August has markedly slowed for me after a couple of good months as it did last year. I'm not a big fish so I wouldn't draw any conclusion other than Adobe doesn't seem in any kind of crisis.
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August sales at Adobe Stock have been good (not spectacular but almost exactly the same $$ as 2019 for August 1-25). Given the economic situation, that's reassuring
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1 to 4 sales a week is marginally different to 0 sales a week. In other words it's so easy to drop from 4 to 0 for whatever reason and main one being more competing images. If you had say 50 sales a week and dropped to 0 that would be an indicator that something is really wrong.
My sales dropped by around 150, still not sure that leades to the conclusion that there was anything wrong with Adobe as others say they are doing fine.
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I've noticed that new files don't sell like they used to until few months ago. It looks like Adobe changed search algorithm also. Too bad because the one before this change was really fair for new files to get deserved chance to prove themselves. Staying for month in this privileged position, that's what they said on their webinars. I really hope this is not permanent and that they will get back to the previous search algorithm. If they do follow SS path of ignoring new files, I'm really going to lose my last reserves of energy for producing new content. So discouraging.
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I've noticed that new files don't sell like they used to until few months ago. It looks like Adobe changed search algorithm also. Too bad because the one before this change was really fair for new files to get deserved chance to prove themselves. Staying for month in this privileged position, that's what they said on their webinars. I really hope this is not permanent and that they will get back to the previous search algorithm. If they do follow SS path of ignoring new files, I'm really going to lose my last reserves of energy for producing new content. So discouraging.
I see why I only sell old images.
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Since the SS earnings structure change, there is a drop in my AS sales
Used to have 1 to 4 sales a week
But in August not a single sale!
Is it the vacation period, Corona or is there to much compatition (since the SS structure change)?
How are your August sales on AS?
Without seeing your portfolio it's very difficult for my to evaluate so I can only speculate here. The first thing that everyone should keep in mind is that there are natural waves in sales that occur throughout the year, every year. To get an accurate comparison you really need to evaluate your sales from the same date range in previous years. This is not a super busy month in general for stock but that doesn't mean there aren't sales happening around the world, all day, every day...there are.
If your peak is only 1-4 downloads per week, that volume is too low to expect consistent activity, therefor your results will likely be unpredictable. Having a swing of only 4 downloads to either 0 or 8 is not unusual. Again, without seeing your portfolio I can only guess so I must assume you either don't have a large enough portfolio, your content is not meeting the current demands of customers (which are dramatically different this year than years past for obvious reasons) or you have a large portfolio with relevant content but it is poorly indexed and difficult to find.
My advice is to evaluate your portfolio with impartial eyes and decide what is missing. Create an action plan that includes a realistic goal..say 25 new images per week for example. Write out a shot list to solidify the plan. Then, most importantly...pick up your camera, slap a memory card in it and start to create! It's the only way to improve your sales. The market has dramatically changed this year. It is unrealistic to expect the same results for the same effort you put forward in the past. There is massive potential still in microstock but you have to put in the effort to take advantage.
I wish you the very best of luck!
Mat Hayward
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my sales are consistent for the last 6 months, tho this month RPD is higher
non-sales are unlikely to be because of people shifting from SS to AS since many/most were alrerady on AS, plus the nuber involved is small compared to AS total images
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From my experience, July and August tend to be the slower months at Adobe. I've still had over 900 sales in the last 30 days but this is down by a reasonable chunk compared to normal months. Overall this year, Adobe has improved for me compared to other agencies that have seen a reduction so sales are out there.
Give it till the 2nd week of September... things are normally on the up again by then.
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Since the SS earnings structure change, there is a drop in my AS sales
Used to have 1 to 4 sales a week
But in August not a single sale!
Is it the vacation period, Corona or is there to much compatition (since the SS structure change)?
How are your August sales on AS?
Without seeing your portfolio it's very difficult for my to evaluate so I can only speculate here. The first thing that everyone should keep in mind is that there are natural waves in sales that occur throughout the year, every year. To get an accurate comparison you really need to evaluate your sales from the same date range in previous years. This is not a super busy month in general for stock but that doesn't mean there aren't sales happening around the world, all day, every day...there are.
If your peak is only 1-4 downloads per week, that volume is too low to expect consistent activity, therefor your results will likely be unpredictable. Having a swing of only 4 downloads to either 0 or 8 is not unusual. Again, without seeing your portfolio I can only guess so I must assume you either don't have a large enough portfolio, your content is not meeting the current demands of customers (which are dramatically different this year than years past for obvious reasons) or you have a large portfolio with relevant content but it is poorly indexed and difficult to find.
My advice is to evaluate your portfolio with impartial eyes and decide what is missing. Create an action plan that includes a realistic goal..say 25 new images per week for example. Write out a shot list to solidify the plan. Then, most importantly...pick up your camera, slap a memory card in it and start to create! It's the only way to improve your sales. The market has dramatically changed this year. It is unrealistic to expect the same results for the same effort you put forward in the past. There is massive potential still in microstock but you have to put in the effort to take advantage.
I wish you the very best of luck!
Mat Hayward
Thank you for your answer!
My port is (around 900 assets):
https://stock.adobe.com/nl/contributor/205508976/photosis
Since the price drop on SS, I started uploading less (the first month i uploaded nothing new). My guess is, that is also a cause.
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Whosvegas - one thing I talk about a lot on my blog - you need to be able to explain the use case (at least to yourself) when taking and uploading images. Unless you can explain how someone would pay for and use your image, then it isn't really worth uploading. I think a number of your images suffer from a distinct lack of "use case".
Steve
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I've had 33 image sales on Adobe so far this month, including several with higher royalties.
Many of those were of blooming prairies in Illinois, taken a year ago this month. So that could explain why they're selling well this year.
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I had 15 sales on AS so far this month.
Before corona times it was about twice as much......
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About 30% of my average sales :(
Vacation?
Covid-19?
Water on Mars?
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My sales are down to 1/3 of a regular month this year on Adobe Stock
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AS is getting worst every month comparing to last years earnings. Very frustrating!!!
2019: JUNE = $ 123.19 / JULY = $ 238.28 / AUGUST = $ 155.50
2020: JUNE = $ 86.34 / JULY = $ 53.20 / AUGUST = $ 51.45
If this goes on I´ll have to close my account. Not worth all the work!
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The last day of the month, i had 1 sale :)
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As I said earlier I thought Adobe was going to capitalize on the SS downer but nope! nothing! just plodding on as usual with bad sales all over! looks like game-over here as well!
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Here's my 2020 sales info on Adobe Stock. My portfolio size 1040 images and 28 videos.
Jan 14 downloads RPD £0.73
Feb 22 downloads RPD £0.45
Mar 12 downloads RPD £2.20
Apr 14 downloads RPD £0.71
May 14 downloads RPD £0.91
Jun 25 downloads RPD £0.87
Jul 20 downloads RPD £1.13
Aug 17 downloads RPD £0.61
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I do not rely on any agency any more. After many years of doing stock, I am really not motivated to produce fresh images for the stock photo agencies, particularly if I have to pay a model or travel for stock. Following the iStock and SS fiasco, Adobe walks the very same route in my opinion. I left iStock as soon as they started their filthy game. I have disabled my SS portfolio as I do not want my images be sold for 10 cents. I still upload to Adobe, Alamy, DT, DP, 123RF and Pond5 (images). Adobe started out with very good sales. It was promising. Today my sales at Adobe are down to about 40% of last year, and keep dropping, although I keep uploading fresh images on a regular weekly basis. My Alamy sales are very small, and DT, DP, 123RF are mediocre - takes me over a year to make a payout (DT in particular), whlile at Pond5 I am convinced I am wasting my time. No image sales at all.
Must mention that Shutterstock was my best earner from day one. At this place I had many best sellers over the years. Those SS bestsellers had very good sales at Fotollia also. When AdobeStock bought FT, those SS best sellers were given no chance at Adobe Stock. Additionally the majority of my new images have no sales at all here. This is why I can not trust Adobe Stock.
I personally do not depend on Stock photo sales to make living of it. I have been doing stock for fun, but I do expect to have some income enough to cover the costs involved in the making of the images.
JUST A NOTE: No matter what happens to the Stock industry, I will continue making pictures, as Photography has always been part of my life.
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in the last weeks, sales are coming back, even beter then previous months
:)
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in the last weeks, sales are coming back, even beter then previous months
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yep, sales ALWAYS increase after the summer doldrums
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As I said earlier I thought Adobe was going to capitalize on the SS downer but nope! nothing! just plodding on as usual with bad sales all over! looks like game-over here as well!
or, as some predicted, the SS disturbance was a non-event, with just a blip in their sales, so adobe was right to ignore it. instead sales over ALL sites continue their decline, partly due to the world wide economic decline due to covid19
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Extremely bad September too… :(
Microstock is dead! (for me)
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Hi Guys,
Just joined the forum, nice to be here :)
I am having similar problem as whosvegas, but from mid-Nov till now (end of Dec).
I have joined Adobe in May, since that time I was having regular sales, but from mid-Nov - completely zero till now. I was already checking if my account is active, because having 0 sales in 6 weeks in a row is quite odd and never happened to me before. Do you have any experience with that? Is it just a low season for travel photography and I should be patient or what can be the reason? I will add that different microstocks sell well for me all the time.
TIA.