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Microbius

« on: May 28, 2011, 09:31 »
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I'm really peeved at FLs attitude to European contributors signed up to the US site and their unwillingness to switch you to the correct version.
They were one of the first sites I signed up to years ago and I didn't realize that there were two versions, the Euro one and the US dollar one.

Have any Europeans stuck on the US one considered deleting their portfolio and re-uploading to the European site so they can get Euro payouts?


Slovenian

« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2011, 10:38 »
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I'm deleting it as soon as I get to 100$. The simplest solution. I'll just stick to SS and IS, which bring me over 10.000% more monthly ;) (no, that's no failed attempt of humour;)

« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2011, 11:18 »
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I am one of that.. I entered on a US link but I live in Portugal.. Email them like 10x and always with some months between.. really bad actually.. we are losing a lot of money, I try to not think about it..

I am not even Silver there but it would be a pain to upload again all my stuff and perhaps get a lot more rejects these days.. been there since March 09, not a lot of money but certainly a lot more if I were with EUR, should I try? dont know.. really hard once I do have a few pics that sell regularly..

I am always waiting them to change it but seem that will never happen.. another screw up contributors for this business
« Last Edit: May 28, 2011, 11:22 by luissantos84 »

« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2011, 01:33 »
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No way will they change an account from US$ to euros. The trick is entirely intentional. And if you scrap your US account and try to reupload to a euro account, who knows what will happen to your search engine ranking, or even if your files will get accepted or, indeed, if they will accept you as a contributor (you'd be setting a bad example to others)? It's a gamble on your part.

Microbius

« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2011, 02:18 »
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No way will they change an account from US$ to euros. The trick is entirely intentional. And if you scrap your US account and try to reupload to a euro account, who knows what will happen to your search engine ranking, or even if your files will get accepted or, indeed, if they will accept you as a contributor (you'd be setting a bad example to others)? It's a gamble on your part.
Yeah I know it's a big gamble but I'm wondering if it's worth the risk for the potential reward.
The main thing that was stopping me before is that I'm a fair way towards Emerald, but I'm thinking that they will probably change the levels yet again before I reach it anyhow!

« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2011, 06:09 »
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I'm living in France and i made a big mistake too:
My first account was in euro, but i was thinking it was not possible to upload english keywords on the european fotolia site! So I created a second account on the american site and start to upload there.
Two years after, i started to upload my new pictures on the european site and keep my american one, before that, i asked at fotolia if it's possible to have two account, and they answer me it's not a problem if the pictures are not in double!
So i have two fotolia accounts with different pictures, that's not the best solution for the ranking, but euro commission is interesting too.

OM

« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2011, 06:24 »
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Definitely not worth the risk IMHO. Every single image you have accepted will immediately go to zero in the search order. If you are approaching emerald, you must have a lot of images and some or a lot of those images may be from time when FT was image hungry. Many of your present best-sellers may be rejected on the basis of arbitrary criteria by the 'rejectors' etc, etc.

To be honest, I've never figured out why FT allows a couple of things, 1) Payment in Euro and 2) Euro contributors to be become exclusive. When they sell a downloaded image in USD from a European bronze exclusive, they have to give the contributor 40% of $1.45 of every $1.00 received when they pay out. The higher the canister level, the more they lose! And there are few benefits to FT that I can see of having exclusives. They don't promote them, exclusives' files may be more expensive and it's not even possible for buyers to see who is exclusive and who is not!
The reason that FT does so well in Europe (IMO) is that the various European sites of FT work in the language of that country and buyers prefer to search in their own language which is often not English. Keywording on eg. the German site is done in German by the contributors so it is much easier for a German buyer to find what he wants in his/her own language when they go to FT.de (or get sent there automatically).

When I joined in 2008, there were 3 choices. Join USA and get paid in USD, join UK and get paid in GBP or join one of the European country sites like Germany or France but have to go through registration in German or French. I went with GBP. Converted to Euros at present, a 50 [email protected] (GBP37.50) payout gives around 44. Whereas a US$50 payout only gives 32.

« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2011, 08:08 »
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Maybe one day $ will worth more than .... Who knows!

OM

« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2011, 10:24 »
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Maybe one day $ will worth more than .... Who knows!

Has been before (in 2002). Can be again. All in the hands of the central bankers to decide.

« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2011, 10:44 »
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Maybe one day $ will worth more than .... Who knows!

Has been before (in 2002). Can be again. All in the hands of the central bankers to decide.

Yes, cycles of global economy are about 8-16 years, so probably $ will have another peak at the end of Obama's second mandatory...

OM

« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2011, 18:13 »
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As long as he continues to do the corporate kleptocracy's/bankers' bidding, he's good for another 4 years. ;D

« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2011, 03:58 »
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In the meantime getting the payout in euro is nice  8)

« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2011, 09:40 »
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Hi,

long time IS exclusive here. My girl wants to get her feet wet in microstock and she'd like to create FT account. I remember from my independent days that it used to make more sense to register on Fotolia EU than Fotolia US because credit prices in EUR were higher. Is that still true today? Should she choose Fotolia US because all other agencies pay in USD or is there a financial incentive to go with Fotolia EU?

If that matters, we live in EU but do not use EUR in this particular country, so no matter what currency we are paid in, it must be converted to local currency one way or the other.

Thanks

« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2011, 09:52 »
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Hi,

long time IS exclusive here. My girl wants to get her feet wet in microstock and she'd like to create FT account. I remember from my independent days that it used to make more sense to register on Fotolia EU than Fotolia US because credit prices in EUR were higher. Is that still true today? Should she choose Fotolia US because all other agencies pay in USD or is there a financial incentive to go with Fotolia EU?

If that matters, we live in EU but do not use EUR in this particular country, so no matter what currency we are paid in, it must be converted to local currency one way or the other.

Thanks

yes still true...  :-\

where do you live? check what will be more profitable for you :)

microstockphoto.co.uk

« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2011, 05:32 »
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Have any Europeans stuck on the US one considered deleting their portfolio and re-uploading to the European site so they can get Euro payouts?

My experience at FT is that old pictures are selling well, while newly uploaded pictures hardly have sales. So it's a very risky trick.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2011, 05:33 by microstockphoto.co.uk »

RacePhoto

« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2011, 16:39 »
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Have any Europeans stuck on the US one considered deleting their portfolio and re-uploading to the European site so they can get Euro payouts?

My experience at FT is that old pictures are selling well, while newly uploaded pictures hardly have sales. So it's a very risky trick.

Yeah I avoided the topic because there are so many problems with the premise. How does anyone know what photos will get accepted, will good sellers suddenly be too old and LVC. Loss of income from less images, while re-uploading. How much is the real difference and how long will it take to recover the losses created by being out of the market entirely for weeks if not longer while the whole account thing is closed, opened and uploaded for review.

No guarantee that the difference will be made up ever?

Is the difference in a year between US dollars and Euro, worth the risk and expense? If it is, then someone might want to take a chance and lose money for a year, so they can make more the next year? How big is the gain, that's what I don't understand.

Cogent Marketing

« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2011, 16:31 »
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I'm deleting it as soon as I get to 100$. The simplest solution. I'll just stick to SS and IS, which bring me over 10.000% more monthly ;) (no, that's no failed attempt of humour;)
I didn't even wait that long with Fotolia. I closed my account after withdrawing all my images about two months ago. Will all the rumours of serious fraud and dubious business practices I really felt I did not want my images associated with them or their tactics. I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to get rid of everything within a few dozen mouse clicks - they must be used to contributors cancelling their accounts and removing their portfolios - not so easy at DT I have to say - they make it REALLY difficult to kick them into the long grass.

Noedelhap

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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2011, 23:18 »
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How do I know whether I have a EURO account? The Credit balance does not show any currency symbol.

microstockphoto.co.uk

« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2011, 00:53 »
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How do I know whether I have a EURO account? The Credit balance does not show any currency symbol.

I can't find that info on the new Fotolia website. Anyway, it you subscribed through a European website (fotolia.de, fotolia.fr, fotolia.ie, ...) then you have Euro; If you subscribed through fotolia.co.uk you have Pounds, through fotolia.com you have Dollars. You will find out at next payment as well.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2011, 00:56 by microstockphoto.co.uk »

« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2011, 07:00 »
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Have a look at the site home page when logged in - if it's quoting package prices in euro, you get paid in euro.  50 is not far off $75 so worth it.

OM

« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2011, 07:36 »
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How do I know whether I have a EURO account? The Credit balance does not show any currency symbol.


I can't find that info on the new Fotolia website. Anyway, it you subscribed through a European website (fotolia.de, fotolia.fr, fotolia.ie, ...) then you have Euro; If you subscribed through fotolia.co.uk you have Pounds, through fotolia.com you have Dollars. You will find out at next payment as well.


The other(more recent alternative) is that your Fotolia address begins with http://eu.fotolia............and the site and keywords are in English, payout in Euro.


 

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