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« on: May 11, 2018, 09:36 »
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I dont know what happen on fotolia but my week was not very good. It is the same for other photo contributor ?


« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2018, 09:48 »
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I dont know what happen on fotolia but my week was not very good. It is the same for other photo contributor ?

If your rank is dropping, it's you.
If it doesn't, it's Fotolia.

« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2018, 10:39 »
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I dont know what happen on fotolia but my week was not very good. It is the same for other photo contributor ?

If your rank is dropping, it's you.
If it doesn't, it's Fotolia.

But rank is useless on Fotolia for footage. I can get a $150 video download but it counts the same as a $0.5 photo sale. I never take notice of my rank as I only contribute footage and it's way off the mark. It it went via $$$ that would be a lot better INHO

Back to the original question: I find Fotolia/Adobe inconsistent with sales. Some weeks it's up with Shutterstock and Getty where as other weeks its down. The last month has been particularly good but this week has been a little slow.

« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2018, 10:51 »
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This week was very slow for me. 20% of previous week. Its really strange

« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2018, 11:13 »
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I dont know what happen on fotolia but my week was not very good. It is the same for other photo contributor ?

If your rank is dropping, it's you.
If it doesn't, it's Fotolia.

But rank is useless on Fotolia for footage. I can get a $150 video download but it counts the same as a $0.5 photo sale. I never take notice of my rank as I only contribute footage and it's way off the mark. It it went via $$$ that would be a lot better INHO

Back to the original question: I find Fotolia/Adobe inconsistent with sales. Some weeks it's up with Shutterstock and Getty where as other weeks its down. The last month has been particularly good but this week has been a little slow.

$150 video sale on Fotolia? I didn't know it was possible.  :o

Otherwise, you are right, the rank is useful for contributors with a port made mostly of stills.

FYI, the OP asked the question to photo contributors.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2018, 14:49 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2018, 19:41 »
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This week I did not sell quantity but videos and an extended license. This is a good week.
Leveraging the topic.
Before, when it was Fotolia, I had 1300 views a month on average (photos / video) and my sales rate was around 13%.
So with the purchase of Adobe, my last months were between 400 and 500 views per month. But my selling rate is 25%.
I mean 25% of the views become sales. Great.
But before with Fotolia I sold more and I earned more.
Any similar experience?
Another change is that with Fotolia the vast majority of my sales came from Europe. Now with Adobe are from the United States.

« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2018, 21:12 »
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This week has been strangely below average for 4 of the 5 days. My weekly ranking hasn't dropped, but overall download numbers are down. I wonder if an API partner closed down.

« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2018, 23:29 »
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This week I did not sell quantity but videos and an extended license. This is a good week.
Leveraging the topic.
Before, when it was Fotolia, I had 1300 views a month on average (photos / video) and my sales rate was around 13%.
So with the purchase of Adobe, my last months were between 400 and 500 views per month. But my selling rate is 25%.
I mean 25% of the views become sales. Great.
But before with Fotolia I sold more and I earned more.
Any similar experience?
Another change is that with Fotolia the vast majority of my sales came from Europe. Now with Adobe are from the United States.

Exactly my experience. I used to sell about 30% to US buyers, now I sell about 30% to EU buyers, and overall earning are way down. All I'm getting now are those 0,99$ sales, before that I got a lot of X, XL, L, credit sales that more or less vanished.

« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2018, 00:54 »
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I think Fotolia is quite Eurocentric lots of countries with May holiday and hot weather. My sales were very poor everywhere :'(

« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2018, 01:30 »
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I think Fotolia is quite Eurocentric lots of countries with May holiday and hot weather. My sales were very poor everywhere :'(

Yup. In Europe when the temperature goes over 22 degrees it's an automatic bank holiday. All video editors just leave their computers and stare at the sun.

That being said, my sales are still normal.

dpimborough

« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2018, 01:58 »
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Fotolia/Adobe is not what I had hoped for after rising sales since the take over
the last 6 months have been rubbish.

The earlier reasonably high value sales have just been replaced with .22 and .99 credit sales I'm lucky to get $30 per month now.

« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2018, 02:07 »
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I dont know what happen on fotolia but my week was not very good. It is the same for other photo contributor ?

If your rank is dropping, it's you.
If it doesn't, it's Fotolia.

But rank is useless on Fotolia for footage. I can get a $150 video download but it counts the same as a $0.5 photo sale. I never take notice of my rank as I only contribute footage and it's way off the mark. It it went via $$$ that would be a lot better INHO

Back to the original question: I find Fotolia/Adobe inconsistent with sales. Some weeks it's up with Shutterstock and Getty where as other weeks its down. The last month has been particularly good but this week has been a little slow.

$150 video sale on Fotolia? I didn't know it was possible.  :o

Otherwise, you are right, the rank is useful for contributors with a port made mostly of stills.

FYI, the OP asked the question to photo contributors.
Yeah I've had a couple in the last few months. It must have been some weird kind of extended 4K license? The majority are the $28 ones

« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2018, 04:05 »
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Fotolia/Adobe is not what I had hoped for after rising sales since the take over
the last 6 months have been rubbish.

The earlier reasonably high value sales have just been replaced with .22 and .99 credit sales I'm lucky to get $30 per month now.
I never had the "bump" when adobe started like some reported.....despite its many issues SS continues to tower above its competitors. I really wish someone would give it some decent competition.

niktol

« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2018, 17:14 »
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To me SS isn't the juggernaut it used to be. Fotolia is still behind, but it will not take much to catch up.

« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2018, 02:10 »
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To me SS isn't the juggernaut it used to be. Fotolia is still behind, but it will not take much to catch up.
Some months they've come close for me but so far never overtaken. So I think the gap for many may still be wide.....My sales on SS haven't declined as much as many have reported or adobe increased.  I think the opportunity is there as there are many weaknesses at SS and I find Adobe/Fotolia much more stable...can't remember any outages or bizarre rejections for a long time.

« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2018, 07:40 »
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To me SS isn't the juggernaut it used to be. Fotolia is still behind, but it will not take much to catch up.

I think you are right and seeing the future. FT keeps growing, SS is standing still. Adobe add all the cloud buyers, as long as more designers subscribe, we will get more sales. SS sales have reached their natural cap. IS that was on top has now dropped to third, buyers know there are other sites not run by Getty, which has managed to build a very negative reputation in the stock photo market.

namussi

« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2018, 08:05 »
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To me SS isn't the juggernaut it used to be. Fotolia is still behind, but it will not take much to catch up.

I think you are right and seeing the future. FT keeps growing, SS is standing still. Adobe add all the cloud buyers, as long as more designers subscribe, we will get more sales. SS sales have reached their natural cap. IS that was on top has now dropped to third, buyers know there are other sites not run by Getty, which has managed to build a very negative reputation in the stock photo market.

That sounds like wishful thinking on your part.

The Getty users I know seem happy enough, although they like the idea of competition in the market too

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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2018, 18:04 »
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my may sales incredibly down on fotolia, my weekly rank constantly down, almost 50% down in two weeks, this situation is very frustrating...
« Last Edit: May 21, 2018, 18:30 by madman »

« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2018, 19:05 »
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my may sales incredibly down on fotolia, my weekly rank constantly down, almost 50% down in two weeks, this situation is very frustrating...

I am following this thread with interest. I'm seeing growth in many accounts but would like to understand why some of you are not.

@Madman will you answer the following questions for me please?

How many files are in your account?
How long has it been since you have submitted new content?
When you most recently submitted new content, how many files did you submit?
Have you synced your Fotolia account with Adobe Stock yet?
If not, why not? 

Thanks,

Mat

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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2018, 20:09 »
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my may sales incredibly down on fotolia, my weekly rank constantly down, almost 50% down in two weeks, this situation is very frustrating...

I am following this thread with interest. I'm seeing growth in many accounts but would like to understand why some of you are not.

@Madman will you answer the following questions for me please?

How many files are in your account?
How long has it been since you have submitted new content?
When you most recently submitted new content, how many files did you submit?
Have you synced your Fotolia account with Adobe Stock yet?
If not, why not? 

Thanks,

Mat

Thanks for your care Mat, a few years ago, my earnings were constantly increasing on fotolia, but over the last few months, it is getting down... maybe I need to work much harder now for sell more images...

I have over 5000 images on my fotolia account,
I am constantly uploading files to fotolia,
last few days ago I uploaded about 50 images (not exactly sure)
Ive synced my Fotolia account with Adobe Stock Immediately after you say it,
I never tried to go into the adobe portal before.





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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2018, 21:58 »
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Pretty big uptick in sales for me this year. Seemed to start in Feb and increase to a reasonably consistent rate in March. No specific reason based on my uploads from what I can tell so must be a combination of increased overall sales and/or changes to the search in my favour. $435 for me in 2017... $445 in 2018 so far.

« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2018, 22:19 »
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I am following this thread with interest. I'm seeing growth in many accounts but would like to understand why some of you are not.

@Madman will you answer the following questions for me please?

How many files are in your account?
How long has it been since you have submitted new content?
When you most recently submitted new content, how many files did you submit?
Have you synced your Fotolia account with Adobe Stock yet?
If not, why not? 

Thanks,

Mat
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Mat, I'm having a similar experience.  Up until last summer I was delighted with the growth at Fotolia.  Then, quite suddenly, sales dropped and have remained at lower levels.  I have continued to upload what I believe is quality work, and yes I am synched with Adobe.  However my sales and income are now only 50% - 65% of previous experience.  US sales have declined significantly and I suspect that some sort of location based search parameter has been introduced which has reduced my sales (but perhaps not for others).  I am based in South Korea but all my work is produced for the European and American markets.

Up until last summer I could happily sell 30-45 images most days.  Nowadays that has reduced to the 15- 25 range, so clearly something has happened.

Thanks for your help as always.

« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2018, 00:48 »
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my may sales incredibly down on fotolia, my weekly rank constantly down, almost 50% down in two weeks, this situation is very frustrating...

I am following this thread with interest. I'm seeing growth in many accounts but would like to understand why some of you are not.

@Madman will you answer the following questions for me please?

How many files are in your account?
How long has it been since you have submitted new content?
When you most recently submitted new content, how many files did you submit?
Have you synced your Fotolia account with Adobe Stock yet?
If not, why not? 

Thanks,

Mat

Some input from myself. Sales down a bit, a good month is often followed by a bad month and the total of the 1st four months 2018 is within $40 of 2017. Approx 0.7% difference. Average rolling 7 days sales volume rarely seems to change at the moment, it used to vary but over the last 1-2 months it seems constant. Weekly rank is down by 150 or so.... a third basically.

10,500 files,
upload 200-400 a month at the moment
Account synced

Edit. Sales volume hasn't dropped as much as $'s .... my gut feeling is that a lot of it is down to the re-direct away from the Fotolia website where there is a great chance of larger $ credit sales compared to those at Adobe Stock.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2018, 02:10 by HalfFull »

« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2018, 00:49 »
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Pretty big uptick in sales for me this year. Seemed to start in Feb and increase to a reasonably consistent rate in March. No specific reason based on my uploads from what I can tell so must be a combination of increased overall sales and/or changes to the search in my favour. $435 for me in 2017... $445 in 2018 so far.
... totally opposite in my case... everything was fine and in rise until February this year and after that just decline... something changed and not seeing me with rare sales after slow, but evident progress year-after-year...

« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2018, 04:45 »
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For me, in general:

- Modest year over year increase for first five months of 2018 vs 2017

- Sales seemed to have taken a 10-20% drop since mid March 2018.  Maybe just spring break, Easter and lead up to summer?  But I did not see a similar drop last year.  Hoping it's just seasonal and not a long-term trend.

- Wildly inconsistent video sales seem to make the difference for me.  I'd love to see more data for video contributors -- a dedicated area where I can see video sales so I can spot trends that could guide me in deciding what to concentrate on.


« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2018, 05:25 »
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Number of sales dropped, but RPD and some nice video sales gave me two decent months. Overall and weekly position has dropped

Someone in this thread suggested something Ive been thinking for years. Every download is counted towards your rank (credit sales/subscription), but I think footage downloads should count as double or even quadruple, as they're less frequent, which makes it unfair for videographers.

Mir

« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2018, 08:31 »
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Does account syncing influence sales in some way?

« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2018, 08:39 »
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Does account syncing influence sales in some way?
Yes,
if not synced, your files won't appear at Adobe site.

« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2018, 09:05 »
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Does account syncing influence sales in some way?
Yes,
if not synced, your files won't appear at Adobe site.
Are you sure about it?

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« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2018, 09:34 »
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since half march falling down...in addiction not only poor download, most of new files like ss are buried after 5 minutes, but most download are pid cry low, i had a lot of 7,5 dollar till march, now mostly few cents, same like ss.
personally i think all those  website offering free content , and good content , are impacting a lot the industry.
in addiction to the zillions of fils uploaded by desperate contributors all around the world.

farbled

« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2018, 11:17 »
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I have 8k images and videos there and make less than one tenth of what I make on SS.

« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2018, 11:26 »
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my may sales incredibly down on fotolia, my weekly rank constantly down, almost 50% down in two weeks, this situation is very frustrating...

I am following this thread with interest. I'm seeing growth in many accounts but would like to understand why some of you are not.

@Madman will you answer the following questions for me please?

How many files are in your account?
How long has it been since you have submitted new content?
When you most recently submitted new content, how many files did you submit?
Have you synced your Fotolia account with Adobe Stock yet?
If not, why not? 

Thanks,

Mat

Thanks for your care Mat, a few years ago, my earnings were constantly increasing on fotolia, but over the last few months, it is getting down... maybe I need to work much harder now for sell more images...

I have over 5000 images on my fotolia account,
I am constantly uploading files to fotolia,
last few days ago I uploaded about 50 images (not exactly sure)
Ive synced my Fotolia account with Adobe Stock Immediately after you say it,
I never tried to go into the adobe portal before.

It sounds like you are doing everything right. Consistent uploads is key to getting regular sales. Of course the quality and subject matter you are shooting makes a difference. It's critical that we all continue to evolve our style to keep up with the changing trends of stock. What was popular five years ago might be considered cliche today. I have no idea what your work looks like, I'm only stating in general terms.

Two main things Adobe Stock customers are looking for...authenticity and diversity. We no longer need images of two white guys wearing suits and shaking hands in front of a seamless white backdrop...real people with real expressions, doing real things in real locations is what I'm finding sells consistently.

If you haven't already read the blog on the 2018 visual trends, I highly recommend you do so to get an idea of the type of content we are looking for: https://blogs.adobe.com/creative/worlds-eyes-2018-visual-trend-forecast-adobe-stock/

Good luck!

Mat



« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2018, 11:30 »
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Does account syncing influence sales in some way?
Yes,
if not synced, your files won't appear at Adobe site.

No, this is not true. All accepted files uploaded to Fotolia are automatically online at Adobe Stock and all content uploaded via Adobe Stock that is approved is automatically online at Fotolia.

Syncing your account does not impact your sales or search visibility. I was only asking out of curiosity.

I've noted all of your comments. I consider the feedback in this forum to be one of the most valuable and effective tools I have in communicating the needs of contributors all around the world to the Management team at Adobe Stock. While I can't always respond in detail to each post, please note that I am reading your comments and referencing them whenever I can in an effort to drive change to improve the experience for contributors.

Thank you very much!

Mat

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« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2018, 20:18 »
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Thanks man......And it shows. sales are coming On..

« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2018, 05:13 »
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No, this is not true. All accepted files uploaded to Fotolia are automatically online at Adobe Stock and all content uploaded via Adobe Stock that is approved is automatically online at Fotolia.





Why did we sync then?

« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2018, 11:39 »
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No, this is not true. All accepted files uploaded to Fotolia are automatically online at Adobe Stock and all content uploaded via Adobe Stock that is approved is automatically online at Fotolia.





Why did we sync then?

All new contributors only have the option to use the contributor portal. While it still has a long way to go, the majority of our engineering resources directed at the contributor experience are pointed at the contributor portal. It's entirely up to you which UI you prefer but as time goes on the Adobe Stock Contributor Portal is getting more intuitive and easier to use.

It's good to sync so you can determine for yourself which option is better. If you prefer Fotolia then no harm in syncing and sticking with Fotolia.

-Mat

« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2018, 12:32 »
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Adobe Stock (customer side) causes Firefox't tab to crash. After locking in, the tab would crash when I do a search.

The contributor side is similar, the tab would crash just when I click the sign in button.

This happens with OS X 10.9.5 + Firefox v60.0.1 (I think any "Quantum" version would do). I have to switch to Chrome (which I don't like) if I need to use AS site.

There is no problem with Firefox in OS X 10.11.6 though. But 10.11.6 is not my main OS.

I will try using AS site more often if it's fixed  ;D

« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2018, 12:56 »
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No, this is not true. All accepted files uploaded to Fotolia are automatically online at Adobe Stock and all content uploaded via Adobe Stock that is approved is automatically online at Fotolia.





Why did we sync then?

All new contributors only have the option to use the contributor portal. While it still has a long way to go, the majority of our engineering resources directed at the contributor experience are pointed at the contributor portal. It's entirely up to you which UI you prefer but as time goes on the Adobe Stock Contributor Portal is getting more intuitive and easier to use.

It's good to sync so you can determine for yourself which option is better. If you prefer Fotolia then no harm in syncing and sticking with Fotolia.

-Mat

Much prefer the Adobe Portal for uploading & submitting but still use Fotolia for data for my accounts etc.

I'd prefer it if Adobe allowed both portals to run alongside each other without trying to push customers over to Adobe Stock when they search for or, use a FT bookmark. Or, if Adobe take on FT's credit system so to avoid the drop in earnings from missing out on those larger credit sales.... could you just flick a switch Matt and implement that  ;D

« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2018, 15:01 »
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No, this is not true. All accepted files uploaded to Fotolia are automatically online at Adobe Stock and all content uploaded via Adobe Stock that is approved is automatically online at Fotolia.





Why did we sync then?

All new contributors only have the option to use the contributor portal. While it still has a long way to go, the majority of our engineering resources directed at the contributor experience are pointed at the contributor portal. It's entirely up to you which UI you prefer but as time goes on the Adobe Stock Contributor Portal is getting more intuitive and easier to use.

It's good to sync so you can determine for yourself which option is better. If you prefer Fotolia then no harm in syncing and sticking with Fotolia.

-Mat

Much prefer the Adobe Portal for uploading & submitting but still use Fotolia for data for my accounts etc.

I'd prefer it if Adobe allowed both portals to run alongside each other without trying to push customers over to Adobe Stock when they search for or, use a FT bookmark. Or, if Adobe take on FT's credit system so to avoid the drop in earnings from missing out on those larger credit sales.... could you just flick a switch Matt and implement that  ;D

Would be cool to have a fotolia / adobe tab on the contributor sites.  Seemless flipping kind of thing. 

« Reply #39 on: May 24, 2018, 15:09 »
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Adobe Stock/Fotolia is actually doing well for me.  I'm at about $1,200 for the month so far, but that only makes up about 9% of my overall income for the month when you take all other agencies into account.

Adobe Stock/Fotolia is quickly becoming my third agency, overtaking Storyblocks.

« Reply #40 on: May 24, 2018, 15:43 »
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Hello Matt and people.
In Fotolia's statistics on views, are the views of the two sites, Adobe and Fotolia?
Thank you
« Last Edit: May 24, 2018, 15:45 by Graiki »

« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2018, 15:48 »
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I put extra effort in the past year to upload photos and videos to Adobe, and I saw a huge increase in sales and am very happy with the results.

« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2018, 16:09 »
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Hello Matt and people.
In Fotolia's statistics on views, are the views of the two sites, Adobe and Fotolia?
Thank you

No, the view statistics on Fotolia are only referencing Fotolia views. We do not have a view tracker in Adobe Stock at this time.

-Mat

« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2018, 09:02 »
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This month has been good on Fotolia/Adobe
My sales increased after 5 months down.
Very good:-)

« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2018, 08:46 »
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Adobe Stock is my best agency this year. I upload every single week new images and footages now I have more than 6k files online. My accepting ratio is excellent. I earn more than last year. I was hoping that this is the key for success But in last time, last weeks, my sales are going down. It is becoming strange. I don't see any reason why. Despite the fact that I never stop uploading and I have "all season" images and footages, my sales are going down. My weekly rang is going from 750 to 1400.. And every week is little higher. I write this because this week is even poorest. Btw My lowest earning agencies like 123rf or Dreamstime sales better than Adobe this week. Why this happens?

Hope you guys are doing well and sales and earnings are still ok.

Regards


 

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