Maybe someone of you can help me to understand how the calculation of sales works when you just got to >1000 downloads level.

Since the beginning of February I have reached 1000 downloads and since then the percentage on small sales has also increased from 0.33 to 0.36.
- for some larger sales it is now 1.06 (instead of 0.99 before), for other sales it is still 0.99?
- today an extended license came in, which was charged with 26,40 like the 0,33 rate. Shouldn't this license with the >1000 downloads account bring 28.80 (26.40 / 0.33 * 0.36)?

Or have I overlooked something here?

Thank you, Michael

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Quote from: JustAnImage on February 08, 2022, 13:26
Maybe someone of you can help me to understand how the calculation of sales works when you just got to >1000 downloads level.

Since the beginning of February I have reached 1000 downloads and since then the percentage on small sales has also increased from 0.33 to 0.36.
- for some larger sales it is now 1.06 (instead of 0.99 before), for other sales it is still 0.99?
- today an extended license came in, which was charged with 26,40 like the 0,33 rate. Shouldn't this license with the >1000 downloads account bring 28.80 (26.40 / 0.33 * 0.36)?

Or have I overlooked something here?

Thank you, Michael

Hi Michael,

the 0,66, 0,99 and 26,40 remain the same - no matter what level you have reached. As far as I remember only the small sales are concerned.

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Quote from: Wilm on February 08, 2022, 14:26
Hi Michael,
the 0,66, 0,99 and 26,40 remain the same - no matter what level you have reached. As far as I remember only the small sales are concerned.

I had suspected something like that, but wasn't sure.

What puzzles me is that since I have >1000 downloads rank sales at 1.06, which were previously 0.99 - but maybe that doesn't apply to extended licenses.

Quote from: JustAnImage on February 08, 2022, 15:01

Quote from: Wilm on February 08, 2022, 14:26
Hi Michael,
the 0,66, 0,99 and 26,40 remain the same - no matter what level you have reached. As far as I remember only the small sales are concerned.

I had suspected something like that, but wasn't sure.

What puzzles me is that since I have >1000 downloads rank sales at 1.06, which were previously 0.99 - but maybe that doesn't apply to extended licenses.

But a sale for 1,06 can't be a subscription. All subscriptions are 0,66 an 0,99. And the lower ones depend on your level but will never reach more than 0,38.

Michael, these amounts are credit packs or on-demand purchases, of which you get 33% regardless of level.

@Wilm,Ralf:
Thank you, now I get it too

Probably it was just an unfortunate coincidence that exactly after the day of the >1000 downloads suddenly 1.06 sales came in.

Nice when you can ask a community :-)

Quote from: JustAnImage on February 08, 2022, 13:26
Maybe someone of you can help me to understand how the calculation of sales works when you just got to >1000 downloads level.

Since the beginning of February I have reached 1000 downloads and since then the percentage on small sales has also increased from 0.33 to 0.36.
- for some larger sales it is now 1.06 (instead of 0.99 before), for other sales it is still 0.99?
- today an extended license came in, which was charged with 26,40 like the 0,33 rate. Shouldn't this license with the >1000 downloads account bring 28.80 (26.40 / 0.33 * 0.36)?

Or have I overlooked something here?

Thank you, Michael

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The rate for image downloads is 33% of the price paid by the customer. The price paid varies based on the plan the customer is on. For the Extended license you referenced, a common price paid is $79.99 which results in the $26.40 royalty you saw recently.

The .36 royalty you referenced is the minimum payment amount for large subscription packages. If the price per download on these subscriptions results in a royalty less than .36 in your case, then the minimum kicks into play instead of the 33% rate.

More information about royalty rates can be found here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html

-Mat Hayward

Hello Mat,

first of all thank you very much for the very precise information, which of course completely clarifies the question!
I was hoping to find an answer here before you sacrifice your time for clarification :-)

For some reason I had the 33% for all image sales in mind, which then would have fit very well with the sudden 1.06 sales - my mistake!

Thanks again and have a nice evening to all in the forum

Quote from: MatHayward on February 08, 2022, 17:44

Quote from: JustAnImage on February 08, 2022, 13:26
Maybe someone of you can help me to understand how the calculation of sales works when you just got to >1000 downloads level.

Since the beginning of February I have reached 1000 downloads and since then the percentage on small sales has also increased from 0.33 to 0.36.
- for some larger sales it is now 1.06 (instead of 0.99 before), for other sales it is still 0.99?
- today an extended license came in, which was charged with 26,40 like the 0,33 rate. Shouldn't this license with the >1000 downloads account bring 28.80 (26.40 / 0.33 * 0.36)?

Or have I overlooked something here?

Thank you, Michael

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The rate for image downloads is 33% of the price paid by the customer. The price paid varies based on the plan the customer is on. For the Extended license you referenced, a common price paid is $79.99 which results in the $26.40 royalty you saw recently.

The .36 royalty you referenced is the minimum payment amount for large subscription packages. If the price per download on these subscriptions results in a royalty less than .36 in your case, then the minimum kicks into play instead of the 33% rate.

More information about royalty rates can be found here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html

-Mat Hayward

You're doing a good job, Mat. Thank you!

Today I had a 0,33 image sale (ID 290229907) while being at Level 2.
As Mat's link showed ( https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html ), the minimum amount on level 2 should be 0.36 - or have I missed another point here?

I don't want to complain about $0.03, but I would like to understand how this comes about :-)

Quote from: JustAnImage on April 19, 2022, 11:22
Today I had a 0,33 image sale (ID 290229907) while being at Level 2.
As Mat's link showed ( https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html ), the minimum amount on level 2 should be 0.36 - or have I missed another point here?

I don't want to complain about $0.03, but I would like to understand how this comes about :-)

I'm looking into this and will update you here asap.

-Mat

Hi Mat, thanks for your input - there's really no rush though, I'm just curious :-)

Quote from: JustAnImage on April 19, 2022, 11:22
Today I had a 0,33 image sale (ID 290229907) while being at Level 2.
As Mat's link showed ( https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html ), the minimum amount on level 2 should be 0.36 - or have I missed another point here?

I don't want to complain about $0.03, but I would like to understand how this comes about :-)

Was it "custom" not "subscription"? I get 38¢ subscriptions but have had a (small) handful of the 33¢ custom royalties since the announcement of Creative Cloud Express:

https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/announcing-adobe-creative-cloud-express/

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on April 19, 2022, 17:04
Was it "custom" not "subscription"? I get 38¢ subscriptions but have had a (small) handful of the 33¢ custom royalties since the announcement of Creative Cloud Express

Hello Jo Ann,
it looked like this in my report (see attached image)

Actually I didn't find if a sale is subscription or custom in the german interface.

I can't get google translate to make my contributor interface German - I assume because it can't log in - but here's what my English interface looks like. As if to order, I just got another of those 33¢ custom sales!

I can't see why you wouldn't have two terms used for your royalties in the German interface as in the English one - subscription & custom

Quote from: JustAnImage on April 19, 2022, 18:21

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on April 19, 2022, 17:04
Was it "custom" not "subscription"? I get 38¢ subscriptions but have had a (small) handful of the 33¢ custom royalties since the announcement of Creative Cloud Express

Hello Jo Ann,
it looked like this in my report (see attached image)

Actually I didn't find if a sale is subscription or custom in the german interface.

You should look at your activity view not the default view. And then you can see the type of license. It's the second from the list.

Quote from: MatHayward on April 19, 2022, 15:42

Quote from: JustAnImage on April 19, 2022, 11:22
Today I had a 0,33 image sale (ID 290229907) while being at Level 2.
As Mat's link showed ( https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html ), the minimum amount on level 2 should be 0.36 - or have I missed another point here?

I don't want to complain about $0.03, but I would like to understand how this comes about :-)

I'm looking into this and will update you here asap.

-Mat

I confirmed this was a credit based Enterprise customer license. As many of you know, the price per credit varies with custom Enterprise agreements. This particular customer has a price of $1 per credit. The minimum payment only applies to large subscription plans so it would not apply here. The royalty rate remains at 33% so the .33 royalty payment is accurate.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

Quote from: SVH on April 19, 2022, 19:20
You should look at your activity view not the default view. And then you can see the type of license. It's the second from the list.

That's the difference!

I had forgotten what the default is - because it is totally useless.  I had made a bookmark to go directly to the useful stats using this URL (you can't see my stats via this but when logged in it should work for any contributor):

https://contributor.stock.adobe.com/en/insights/sales-earnings

If I just go to the default, I see everything as Photos

Thanks @ Mat, SVN, Jo Ann:
You are right: The sale was a 'custom' sale or in german 'benutzerdefiniert'.

Not easy to understand, that there is a minimum payment, which is not used on any sales - this make it more like a 'sometimes minimum'.
But I am totally fine with that and happy to have a sale at all :-)

Thanks again for clarification!