Author Topic: review times?? (Read 13430 times)

yuriy · « **on:** August 23, 2023, 11:44 »

i haven't had an image reviewed in over a week. i don't even mean accepted just reviewed. my oldest is currently sitting on 16 days. what's going on? are they too busy developing pop-ups?

cobalt · « **Reply #1 on:** August 23, 2023, 13:44 »

Where have you been? For months now review times are getting longer and longer.

Mifornia · « **Reply #2 on:** August 23, 2023, 22:24 »

My png is 26 days old.

Contemporary Dave · « **Reply #3 on:** August 27, 2023, 12:45 »

Yes, their review times are ridiculous. I've been waiting around 3 weeks for some images to be reviewed. Sites like Shutterstock and Alamy only take a couple of days to clear at their very worst.

It's a pity. Despite having a very small portfolio (around 300 images) on Adobe, they sell quite well. I would supply far more images to them if their submission page was more user-friendly, and if their review times were massively improved. If they want to compete with the other libraries, they really need to get their act together.

f8 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 27, 2023, 13:43 »

What is even more fun is our content ferments for a month or so only to find out your content suddenly does not meet Adobe qaulity standards, evenwith years of a proven track record.

Adobe is dropping the ball in every way lately.

It's really sad to see the demise of a once respected platform. It's almost as if the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.

Wilm · « **Reply #5 on:** August 27, 2023, 15:01 »

27 days.

Wilm · « **Reply #6 on:** August 27, 2023, 15:02 »

And still waiting! png image- no AI!

blvdone · « **Reply #7 on:** August 28, 2023, 16:25 »

I think there are so many non-photographers using Midjourney to generate AI images and uploading to Adobe Stock because of many YouTube videos on how to make money with AI generated stock images. Adobe just created their own problem.

Wilm · « **Reply #8 on:** August 28, 2023, 16:32 »

First images approved after 28 days.

matelusz · « **Reply #9 on:** August 29, 2023, 12:34 »

Something about reviews - for several days I have to accept conditions on pop-up after click "send". And It's a little crazy - I send editorial photos, and yet I have to accept that the photos have no visible logos or trademarks. And they threaten to suspend the account. I've sent a lot of pictures with logos before and they were accepted, what's the point?

Mir · « **Reply #10 on:** August 29, 2023, 16:22 »

My last vector image took just a few days to be approved.

DiscreetDuck · « **Reply #11 on:** August 29, 2023, 16:24 »

Quote from: Mir on August 29, 2023, 16:22

My last vector image took just a few days to be approved.

Can we still upload vectors that are not autotraced AI generated images?

Mir · « **Reply #12 on:** August 29, 2023, 17:32 »

I guess we can... until the AI people take over.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #13 on:** August 29, 2023, 18:03 »

Quote from: matelusz on August 29, 2023, 12:34

Something about reviews - for several days I have to accept conditions on pop-up after click "send". And It's a little crazy - I send editorial photos, and yet I have to accept that the photos have no visible logos or trademarks. And they threaten to suspend the account. I've sent a lot of pictures with logos before and they were accepted, what's the point?

See this thread

https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/adobe-stock-generti/msg591544/#msg591544

dragonblade · « **Reply #14 on:** September 04, 2023, 11:05 »

Quote from: f8 on August 27, 2023, 13:43

What is even more fun is our content ferments for a month or so only to find out your content suddenly does not meet Adobe qaulity standards, evenwith years of a proven track record.

Yea their reviewers are becoming ridiculously strict. Some of my latest images were rejected for technical reasons and they look fine to me. I used to have a very good acceptance rate.

My last photo was rejected because there is supposedly a similar image already in my portfolio. That is complete nonsense. I went through my port twice and I see no images that are similar to this latest submission. The latest photo is a close up of a very young tree. I do admit that I have a close up of a plant that is already in my port but these types of vegetation are completely different and look nothing like each other. For example, one has large leaves and the other has no leaves. I guess Adobe are hinting that we are only allowed to have a maximum of one plant close up in our port and no more. Never mind that there are probably thousands of different types of plants out there but we can only have a closeup of one of them. So choose carefully.

cascoly · « **Reply #15 on:** September 04, 2023, 12:40 »

i agree on the silly rejects, esp'ly when the reason given is worthless ('something's wrong - guess what it is!")

but the bigger problem is when entire batches are rejected (and most i submit have already accepted by S & DT) and taking a month to review is ridiculous

dragonblade · « **Reply #16 on:** September 04, 2023, 17:55 »

Quote from: cascoly on September 04, 2023, 12:40

i agree on the silly rejects, esp'ly when the reason given is worthless ('something's wrong - guess what it is!")

Exactly right. I don't know why they make this a guessing game.

Quote from: cascoly on September 04, 2023, 12:40

but the bigger problem is when entire batches are rejected (and most i submit have already accepted by S & DT) and taking a month to review is ridiculous

When I first joined AS, about half of my photos were accepted if I recall correctly. Then later on, the reviewers seem to become less strict and they accepted just about everything I submitted. Ive been out of the stock game for a little while and now that I'm back, I see that something really weird is going on with the AS review team.

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #17 on:** September 05, 2023, 04:26 »

All allowing AI images to be submitted as photos did was prolong the review time for real photos as well.
My real photos have been waiting to be reviewed for 16 days now. It really sucks when you want to submit time sensitive content.
I usually submit all my images to all agencies at the same time and managing different submitting times for individual agencies is really quite the hassle - especially since Adobes review time changes all the time - getting longer and longer.
Will my Halloween photos be reviewed in 2 weeks or 2 months? Impossible to know when the right time to submit time sensitive photos is now. $:-\$

DiscreetDuck · « **Reply #18 on:** September 05, 2023, 04:31 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 05, 2023, 04:26

All allowing AI images to be submitted as photos did was prolong the review time for real photos as well.
My real photos have been waiting to be reviewed for 16 days now. It really sucks when you want to submit time sensitive content.
I usually submit all my images to all agencies at the same time and managing different submitting times for individual agencies is really quite the hassle - especially since Adobes review time changes all the time - getting longer and longer.
Will my Halloween photos be reviewed in 2 weeks or 2 months? Impossible to know when the right time to submit time sensitive photos is now. $:-\$

You complain against flooding AI images, and, in the same time, submit Ai images yourself. You set fire to the forest and complain that it burns? Modern maturity...

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #19 on:** September 05, 2023, 04:38 »

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on September 05, 2023, 04:31

Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 05, 2023, 04:26
All allowing AI images to be submitted as photos did was prolong the review time for real photos as well.
My real photos have been waiting to be reviewed for 16 days now. It really sucks when you want to submit time sensitive content.
I usually submit all my images to all agencies at the same time and managing different submitting times for individual agencies is really quite the hassle - especially since Adobes review time changes all the time - getting longer and longer.
Will my Halloween photos be reviewed in 2 weeks or 2 months? Impossible to know when the right time to submit time sensitive photos is now. $:-\$

You complain against flooding AI images, and, in the same time, submit Ai images yourself. You set fire to the forest and complain that it burns? Modern maturity...

No, read again.
I am complaining about AI images being submitted as photos. They should never have been submitted as illustrations or photos in the first place. They are not illustrations. They are not photos. They should have gotten their own AI image category (or never have been allowed at all).
I complain about Mat claiming that Adobe does not need more reviewers, when very obviously they do and need to change something. They either need to disallow AI images, give a separate review queque to them, so people who still put the effort into real photos and real illustrations don't have to suffer even more disadvantages because of AI images than they already do or hire a hell lot of new reviewers.

cascoly · « **Reply #20 on:** September 05, 2023, 16:35 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 05, 2023, 04:38

......

I am complaining about AI images being submitted as photos. They should never have been submitted as illustrations or photos in the first place. They are not illustrations. They are not photos. They should have gotten their own AI image category (or never have been allowed at all).

they do - they are entered as illustrations - what else could they be? AIgen is a technique like vectors, not an image category. but more important is that they also have to be marked as AI generated illustrations, none allowed as photos

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I complain about Mat claiming that Adobe does not need more reviewers, when very obviously they do and need to change something. They either need to disallow AI images, give a separate review queque to real photos or hire a hell lot of new reviewers.

i have 100 images, photo & AI, in Q for 2 weeks to 2 MONTHS! but AS won't admit the bigger problem of entire batches being rejected (as many here have reported)

gnirtS · « **Reply #21 on:** September 06, 2023, 00:14 »

Im still not seeing this. I'm getting maybe a 2-3 day time period for new images to be uploaded and its been like that for a while.
Last batch i submitted on the weekend have been reviewed sometime before now when i checked.

That said, for some reason, ive had 4 images stuck in the queue for 2 weeks now that havent budged but the other 150 or so went through.

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #22 on:** September 06, 2023, 03:58 »

Quote from: cascoly on September 05, 2023, 16:35

they do - they are entered as illustrations - what else could they be?

Did you miss the announcement that they can now be submitted as photos? Happened maybe around 3 weeks ago....

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #23 on:** September 06, 2023, 04:03 »

Quote from: gnirtS on September 06, 2023, 00:14

Im still not seeing this. I'm getting maybe a 2-3 day time period for new images to be uploaded and its been like that for a while.
Last batch i submitted on the weekend have been reviewed sometime before now when i checked.

That said, for some reason, ive had 4 images stuck in the queue for 2 weeks now that havent budged but the other 150 or so went through.

You are lucky. My oldest batch of photos (not AI, real photos) has been sitting in review for 19 days now, still not reviewed. The batch after that has been sitting unreviewed for 16 days, another for 10 days, another one for 9 days and so on...
The only photos that get reviewed faster for me are editorial ones.

But right now it kind of looks like my review queque has not moved at all in days.

cobalt · « **Reply #24 on:** September 06, 2023, 05:15 »

normal photo: still sitting at 14 days

real photo png: sitting at 29 days

ai photos: around 20 ? days

ai illustration : more than 2 months

I have stopped uploading Halloween, because it will simply not arrive in time. Doing my last autumn batch this week.

Everything else is winter, but already content for spring easter. In October I will start with ai summer. In December I will upload autumn. And maybe some of the Halloween content.

Seasonal content should be online 6-9 months before the event. The long review times mess up my schedule.

However - with ai you can create content for any season at any time.

But it means I cannot strongly increase my income for the last quarter, because the content is arriving too late.

Next year I will work with a much longer review time in mind.

For seasonal content timing is absolutely crucial.

If it goes live just shortly before the event - christmas images arriving middle of November - it is simply too late for all the buyers who preplan their projects long before.

It can still pick up a few spontaneous buyers, but you will not be able to get the money you would have made if the content had arrived in May - early September.

For timeless content it does not matter, so I am increasing my output for everything that can be sold all year round.

Overall I am still very grateful for the opportunity to do ai.

But will certainly increase real photos/video shootings now that I have my first 800 ai files live.

Jaggy · « **Reply #25 on:** September 06, 2023, 06:15 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 06, 2023, 04:03

Quote from: gnirtS on September 06, 2023, 00:14
Im still not seeing this. I'm getting maybe a 2-3 day time period for new images to be uploaded and its been like that for a while.
Last batch i submitted on the weekend have been reviewed sometime before now when i checked.

That said, for some reason, ive had 4 images stuck in the queue for 2 weeks now that havent budged but the other 150 or so went through.

You are lucky. My oldest batch of photos (not AI, real photos) has been sitting in review for 16 days now, still not reviewed. The batch after that has been sitting unreviewed for 10 days, another one for 9 days and so on...
The only photos that get reviewed faster for me are editorial ones.

I have a bunch of photos (also real) sitting in the queue at 25 days.

cobalt · « **Reply #26 on:** September 06, 2023, 09:30 »

I wonder if Adobe could give priority for seasonal content in their queues?

autumn, halloween, thanksgiving, harvest, christmas...maybe they could pick that out earlier than non seasonal images?

When we lose money, they lose money.

But no idea if that is possible with their system.

For all media of course, not just ai.

cascoly · « **Reply #27 on:** September 06, 2023, 11:31 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 06, 2023, 03:58

Quote from: cascoly on September 05, 2023, 16:35

they do - they are entered as illustrations - what else could they be?

Did you miss the announcement that they can now be submitted as photos? Happened maybe around 3 weeks ago....

yes, i missed it - i agree w you they're not photos

cascoly · « **Reply #28 on:** September 07, 2023, 15:42 »

Some of my 1–2-month-old pix were reviewed today - still a lot of 'quality' rejects other agencies took, but at least time they didn't reject an entire batch. interesting that they reviewed only photos, the AI gen's from the same bath are still waiting their turn

Konstantin Sutyagin · « **Reply #29 on:** September 08, 2023, 03:40 »

Seems like the relative ease of creating AI images led to a huge amounts of such content fooding Adobe reviewers. The easy fix could be in setting a limit on the number of AI images one can submit in a week. It should balance the review capacity and promote submitting only the best generations at the same time.

cobalt · « **Reply #30 on:** September 08, 2023, 04:13 »

In there are people in their discord group saying they cannot submit more than 51 files, in other groups a more advanced contributor says he cannot submit more than 700.

My highest was 340 ai in the queue and still no limit reached. On average I have 200.

The problem seems to be that at least some ai reviewers have no legal training and are accepting content with visible copyright issues and even protected brand names in titles.

And then probably a software sweeps over ports and locks them without notifying the producer who then has to discover this himself and write to support to find out what happened.

So even if they made the limits much lower, if the review process is not improved, the issue and risk for producers still exist.

cascoly · « **Reply #31 on:** September 08, 2023, 13:45 »

one steep forward, 2 steps back

instead of the generic 'we dont like this image', we now see
Possible reasons:

- Non compliant use of another artist’s name.

- Undeclared Generative AI Content.

- Content not compliant with overall guidelines:

but does that mean they think it's AI?(when it's not, but we dont know if this was the reason & we can submit properly)
or
is it not compliant for another reason

they need to have a separate notice for AI gen related problems

so, they've just muddied the waters and we still dont know why it's rejected; 'guidelines' is such a weasel word & covers a multitude of sins, only some of which are technical

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otoh, the good news is they're catching up - recent photo reviews were only 10 days old, but dozens AI gen from last month havent been reviewed, and weirdly 3 images are 2 months old

Isard · « **Reply #32 on:** September 09, 2023, 07:10 »

For me ..

Validations of illustrations ..at least 6 weeks of waiting sometimes 2 months ..

Photo .. 3 weeks sometimes more

Editorial .. very fast 24H

Mifornia · « **Reply #33 on:** September 10, 2023, 09:18 »

Quote from: cascoly on September 08, 2023, 13:45

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otoh, the good news is they're catching up - recent photo reviews were only 10 days old, but dozens AI gen from last month havent been reviewed, and weirdly 3 images are 2 months old

can you please post a link to unreviewed images or let me know how to see them?

Wilm · « **Reply #34 on:** September 10, 2023, 09:46 »

35 days right now - still not reviewed.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #35 on:** September 10, 2023, 11:44 »

Quote from: CarmelCalifornia on September 10, 2023, 09:18

Quote from: cascoly on September 08, 2023, 13:45
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otoh, the good news is they're catching up - recent photo reviews were only 10 days old, but dozens AI gen from last month havent been reviewed, and weirdly 3 images are 2 months old
can you please post a link to unreviewed images or let me know how to see them?

https://contributor.stock.adobe.com/en/uploads/review

Jaggy · « **Reply #36 on:** September 11, 2023, 10:28 »

Quote from: Wilm on September 10, 2023, 09:46

35 days right now - still not reviewed.

I'm over a month on some of mine.

HalfFull · « **Reply #37 on:** September 12, 2023, 08:56 »

Over a month here as well. It seems things are getting worse rather than better. Seems out of control now.

Madoo · « **Reply #38 on:** September 13, 2023, 00:08 »

Quote from: cobalt on September 06, 2023, 05:15

normal photo: still sitting at 14 days

real photo png: sitting at 29 days

ai photos: around 20 ? days

ai illustration : more than 2 months

There is NO such thing as ai photo.

AnneVictoire · « **Reply #39 on:** September 13, 2023, 15:46 »

Yep, two images "submitted last month" i.e. more than 28 days ago, when they announce moderation can take up to four weeks. They should correct this to say moderation can take more than four weeks. I have no A.I. illustrations and 72 photos waiting to be reviewed.

cobalt · « **Reply #40 on:** September 14, 2023, 12:03 »

Suggestion for Adobe/Mat

Please allow us a small number of files to be fast tracked, to be able to respond to current world events - a new covid type scare, floodings and earthquakes, maybe a stock market crash...aliens are real...

The way it is now, if something dramatic happens, we have no chance of getting relevant material online in time.

Imagine if all the images of people wearing masks got delayed for 3 months...

So - perhaps depending on port size/sales success/rank...please allow us to fasttrack 2-10 files a week.

cobalt · « **Reply #42 on:** September 15, 2023, 02:58 »

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

It is of course always possible for Adobe to look through the queue for suddenly needed content and inspect it faster.

I am seeing quite a few of my christmas ai coming through while other content uploaded earlier is still in the queue, which I really appreciate. Timing is crucial for seasonal content.

A fast track option would have been nice, but the best solution is to better manage the entire queue.

dragonblade · « **Reply #43 on:** September 15, 2023, 10:23 »

Ive just had a super fast review for an illustrative editorial photo. I submitted it last night and it was accepted tonight. Amazing. Though I still have a number of other photos sitting in the review queue that have been there for ages.

Pacesetter · « **Reply #44 on:** September 15, 2023, 22:46 »

Us... by the time our photos are reviewed on Adobe Stock...

Jaggy · « **Reply #45 on:** September 16, 2023, 09:12 »

I had two photos in my queue approved today. Strangely, they were not the oldest shots awaiting review. Those are still pending approximately 35 days in.

dragonblade · « **Reply #46 on:** September 17, 2023, 00:38 »

It's great when you get a photo accepted on AS considering that their reviews are so strict these days. I had a photo of a green praying mantis accepted a few days ago but for some reason, it's not visible in my port. Definitely not showing up.

Edit: And now it's appeared. Could not find it before and scanned through my port twice.

AnneVictoire · « **Reply #47 on:** September 18, 2023, 13:25 »

Yes, Adobe does approve some photos that are not at the end of the queue, or editorial (these get reviewed pretty quickly). I'm not sure what the rationale is, as those recently approved were not more or less timely than the oldest uploads (more than a month after upload). Still, I am grateful whenever some are approved these days, rather than taking it for granted.

cobalt · « **Reply #48 on:** September 18, 2023, 14:07 »

I again had some autumn files pulled out earlier from the queue and i am very grateful. Otherwise they would arrive in winter.

wds · « **Reply #49 on:** September 18, 2023, 17:52 »

I had some editorials go through pretty quickly....maybe they are finally getting a handle on this?

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #50 on:** September 19, 2023, 01:29 »

Quote from: wds on September 18, 2023, 17:52

I had some editorials go through pretty quickly....maybe they are finally getting a handle on this?

I am afraid not. Editorial photos were reviewed fast all the time, nothing has changed about that.

Waiting 28 days for real non-editorial photos now....

cascoly · « **Reply #51 on:** September 19, 2023, 13:59 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 19, 2023, 01:29

Quote from: wds on September 18, 2023, 17:52
I had some editorials go through pretty quickly....maybe they are finally getting a handle on this?

I am afraid not. Editorial photos were reviewed fast all the time, nothing has changed about that.

Waiting 28 days for real non-editorial photos now....

more delay than that for my AI batch; oddly, the other images i submitted at same time were reviewed a week or so ago

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #52 on:** September 20, 2023, 02:16 »

For me there seems to be a strange new pattern emerging: I am not getting any images, no matter whether they are real photos, illustrations, pngs or AI, reviewed at all for several days in a row. The only expection are editorial images. And then I suddenly get a rush of a lot of images being reviewed and then I am again getting no images reviewed at all. I did not have a single image reviewed since Friday. Last week I had a lot of images reviewed. The week before than almost none for the whole week.
I never get any images reviewed on weekends, but now it also happens on weekdays for several days in a row.
And if this would somehow be in accord with my upload pattern and I would not upload images for several days, then I would understand it - It's simply not "my turn". But I submit images daily and even spread out my uploads through the whole day, so there should be some daily reviewing going on if reviewers were working off the review queque chronologically. But that doesn't seem to be the case?

Lowls · « **Reply #53 on:** September 20, 2023, 04:51 »

Quote from: dragonblade on September 04, 2023, 11:05

Quote from: f8 on August 27, 2023, 13:43
What is even more fun is our content ferments for a month or so only to find out your content suddenly does not meet Adobe qaulity standards, evenwith years of a proven track record.

Yea their reviewers are becoming ridiculously strict. Some of my latest images were rejected for technical reasons and they look fine to me. I used to have a very good acceptance rate.

My last photo was rejected because there is supposedly a similar image already in my portfolio. That is complete nonsense. I went through my port twice and I see no images that are similar to this latest submission. The latest photo is a close up of a very young tree. I do admit that I have a close up of a plant that is already in my port but these types of vegetation are completely different and look nothing like each other. For example, one has large leaves and the other has no leaves. I guess Adobe are hinting that we are only allowed to have a maximum of one plant close up in our port and no more. Never mind that there are probably thousands of different types of plants out there but we can only have a closeup of one of them. So choose carefully.

I've had a discussion with Matt about this but it was blind script arguing from him. Lalalalalalalala I'm not listening etc. The similars rule is equally as moronic. If only they checked. Pages of swimming pool water from one account. Sand and brick and stones and leaves and clouds. And this is the simple stuff an easy search could reveal ... but yeah let's be thick as pig sh%t and leave those on there and reject two photos because one is autumnal leaves on a tree and another on the ground.

And heaven forbid we bring up A.I. similars jesus. Pages and pages.

Actual similar spamming offences ...

https://stock.adobe.com/uk/search?filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aphoto%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aillustration%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Azip_vector%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Avideo%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Atemplate%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3A3d%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aaudio%5D=0&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aimage%5D=1&filters%5Binclude_stock_enterprise%5D=0&filters%5Bis_editorial%5D=0&order=relevance&safe_search=1&serie_id=621281076&search_page=1&search_type=see-more&get_facets=0

there are far worse examples. Portfolios with 80+ pages of pool water. And they've been there for years.
Adobe is now my worst performer.

yuriy · « **Reply #54 on:** September 20, 2023, 11:56 »

what's the specific similars rule you're referring to? i get lots of rejections in shutterstock for similars but not as many on adobe.

Lowls · « **Reply #55 on:** September 20, 2023, 17:02 »

Quote from: yuriy on September 20, 2023, 11:56

what's the specific similars rule you're referring to? i get lots of rejections in shutterstock for similars but not as many on adobe.

rejection reason

Similar Images already submitted.

Thanks for giving us the chance to consider your image. Unfortunately, during our review we found that it's similar to another image(s) you've already uploaded, so we can't accept it into our collection.

Images must be different enough to provide additional value to our customers. We can't accept more than three color variations of the same image or similar images, and models must appear in different situations or with different expressions to be considered. Please be selective and submit only the very best from each image series.

To learn more about the reasons we decline certain images, including similarity to other images, please visit this page: https://www.adobe.com/go/stock-contributor-help

gnirtS · « **Reply #56 on:** September 21, 2023, 00:21 »

Is there any sort of common trend here? Im fully aware of huge review times (and know in person someone with the issue) but ive submitted 30 images on the weekend and they're already live.

I've had 1 image stuck in-queue for weeks now that hasn't moved but everything else has.

The review delays seem to be random and vary person to person with no clear link from what i can see.

MZP · « **Reply #57 on:** September 21, 2023, 07:00 »

Probably images get assigned to different reviewers the moment we submit them, and that's why they're almost never evaluated in the order in which they were submitted. Some reviewers might be faster than others.

HalfFull · « **Reply #58 on:** September 21, 2023, 12:00 »

The latest non AI png files I had approved had been waiting about a month and a half. For a company the size of Adobe, it's a little embarrassing that they can't manage this. They have the money and resources to correct it.

It must be getting to the point when they realise the only way to resolve it is to pause the intake of AI content until they can bring in new staff to get the numbers back down to a sensible level.

Lowls · « **Reply #59 on:** September 22, 2023, 11:10 »

🤣 🤣 🤣

omg the latest failed submission rejected for

meh ... we no likey

🤣 🤣 🤣

non aesthetic or commercial appeal. Stock photography. Where you can buy photos of a used cat litter tray or worse. Ok lol. SS thanks you.

DiscreetDuck · « **Reply #60 on:** September 22, 2023, 11:32 »

yuriy · « **Reply #61 on:** September 22, 2023, 11:58 »

i recently had a small batch of videos wait about 3-4 weeks. they got shoved into the reminder folder w/ "data issue." nothing there that i could easily spot (no brand names, no obvious spam) so i made some adjustments, resubmitted. 3-4 weeks later same thing again. maybe they'll earn me some sales in 2028.

gnirtS · « **Reply #62 on:** September 22, 2023, 23:26 »

I'm seeing parallels here with SS a few years ago.

When it decided to massively expand its library suddenly it lacked the software, systems and human staff to cope with the surge and just introduced poorly designed systems and procedures to wade through the mess.

This to me looks similar - they cant cope with volume and are desperately trying to implement things to counter it with no real testing or plan.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #63 on:** September 26, 2023, 05:35 »

Quote from: gnirtS on September 22, 2023, 23:26

I'm seeing parallels here with SS a few years ago.

When it decided to massively expand its library suddenly it lacked the software, systems and human staff to cope with the surge and just introduced poorly designed systems and procedures to wade through the mess.

This to me looks similar - they cant cope with volume and are desperately trying to implement things to counter it with no real testing or plan.

when Firefly was announced,and also when Adobe started accepting AI content,it was also said up front that this was a new thing for Adobe too.

I also have photos waiting for over a month,I think 40 days,but I'm not complaining and I'm sure that AS is doing everything possible to adapt to this new situation.

We live in an era where timing is everything,I don't think AS could easily sit down and waste a year organizing everything so as not to create these situations,they had to act quickly in their interest which coincides with ours,and clearly they are trying to manage the situation as best they can,and I'm more than sure that soon everything will be back to working in the best way.

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #64 on:** September 26, 2023, 06:04 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on September 26, 2023, 05:35

I'm sure that AS is doing everything possible to adapt to this new situation.

Like what?
Mat specifically said they are not looking for new reviewers. So, the rate of images submitted increases by 50, but they don't increase the reviewer numbe at all, which is the only possible solution. Obviosuly they don't have enough reviewers for the mass of AI images they get and the ones they have seem to work under extreme stress, seeing what kind of wonky images with impossible physics and trademarked items they let through in masses.
As far as I can tell AS is doing exactly nothing to adapt to this new situation.

And I would not mind the long review times, if it wouldn't mean that it became impossible to get time sensitive images approved in time. With seasonal content it is extremely crucial to get the timing exactly right to give the images their best sale potential. And with completely unpredictable review times that has become impossible. I started Halloween images when review times were around 7 days and calculated my submission time according to that. Suddenly the review time is not 7 days anymore, but 7 weeks+. How am I supposed to plan with something like this?

Injustice for all · « **Reply #65 on:** September 26, 2023, 06:26 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 26, 2023, 06:04

Quote from: Injustice for all on September 26, 2023, 05:35
I'm sure that AS is doing everything possible to adapt to this new situation.

Like what?
Mat specifically said they are not looking for new reviewers. So, the rate of images submitted increases by 50, but they don't increase the reviewer numbe at all, which is the only possible solution. Obviosuly they don't have enough reviewers for the mass of AI images they get and the ones they have seem to work under extreme stress, seeing what kind of wonky images with impossible physics and trademarked items they let through in masses.
As far as I can tell AS is doing exactly nothing to adapt to this new situation.

And I would not mind the long review times, if it wouldn't mean that it became impossible to get time sensitive images approved in time. With seasonal content it is extremely crucial to get the timing exactly right to give the images their best sale potential. And with completely unpredictable review times that has become impossible. I started Halloween images when review times were around 7 days and calculated my submission time according to that. Suddenly the review time is not 7 days anymore, but 7 weeks+. How am I supposed to plan with something like this?

Sorry,but how can you say they aren't doing anything about it?

yes,Mat said they don't hire other reviewers,but maybe here through microstockgroup,maybe they already did it,maybe they will,you don't know.

Of course,it's important to have seasonal content approved on time,and you think they don't know that?

Do you think not having this type of new content ready for sale in time would please AS? Why not? Obviously it would be better for them too!

Don't think that they are naive,I am more than certain that they are doing everything possible to bring the situation back to normal,I don't see why it should be any different than this.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #66 on:** September 26, 2023, 07:45 »

I don't know what Adobe Stock is doing, but I can - and have - observed the new approvals over the last couple of months.

What I see is that the same parade of mistakes continues - there are some decent images buried in the flood, of course.

If things were being taken care of, I'd expect to see fewer logos, extra/missing limbs/digits, laws of physics being mangled in photo-realistic images, etc. etc.

f8 · « **Reply #67 on:** September 26, 2023, 09:29 »

The current review times at Adobe are a disgrace. Not to reminisce but back in the good old days before microstock and digital we used to package up our slides and send to the agency across the country or to another country by Fedex. The submission rejects would be returned usually within 2-3 weeks with a personal note from your editor. Surely a company like Adobe can do better than analog.

Jaggy · « **Reply #68 on:** September 26, 2023, 10:29 »

I'm now at over 6 weeks on some of my submissions. It's a joke.

Dani1985 · « **Reply #69 on:** October 02, 2023, 04:47 »

Mine is now over two months..

Dog-maDe-sign · « **Reply #70 on:** October 23, 2023, 07:05 »

Hey Mat, don't you think Adobe should hire some new employees, with human intelligence, for real contents review?

cascoly · « **Reply #71 on:** October 23, 2023, 13:21 »

the problem isnt just the long review times - it's random chance of review - many here reporting reviews of a week while others have images stewing for months.

i recently had a handful of images rejected (for the usual vague 'quality' reasons) that were submitted about a week ago, while many others (including AIM) have been there for 2 months

Injustice for all · « **Reply #72 on:** October 23, 2023, 19:14 »

Quote from: cascoly on October 23, 2023, 13:21

the problem isnt just the long review times - it's random chance of review - many here reporting reviews of a week while others have images stewing for months.

i recently had a handful of images rejected (for the usual vague 'quality' reasons) that were submitted about a week ago, while many others (including AIM) have been there for 2 months

maybe it depends on the quantity you send,I never have such long times,a couple of weeks max,because I send about a thousand contents in a year.

I also have several rejections,and I have noticed a trend,perhaps a coincidence, at the beginning of each year I never have rejections,as the year progresses the percentage of rejections increases.

but who knows for sure?maybe it just happened that way for other reasons.

however,nothing can be ruled out,because Adobe's sales system seems like clockwork to me,apart from last month when I had an amazing surge in sales, the fluctuations in the number of sales have always been minimal with a slow increase upwards in time.

blvdone · « **Reply #73 on:** October 23, 2023, 19:31 »

I have 2,000 AI generated photos in review now. The oldest batch is "2 month ago". They must be having hundreds of thousands of AI generated photos in review now.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #74 on:** October 23, 2023, 20:00 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on September 26, 2023, 07:45

I don't know what Adobe Stock is doing, but I can - and have - observed the new approvals over the last couple of months.

What I see is that the same parade of mistakes continues - there are some decent images buried in the flood, of course.

If things were being taken care of, I'd expect to see fewer logos, extra/missing limbs/digits, laws of physics being mangled in photo-realistic images, etc. etc.

You're right about that,sorry I didn't notice your reply,wow it's already been a month!

anyway yes,instead of rejecting valid content,they should clean up all these AI generated images uploaded without even looking at them,I agree 100% with this.

I generate AI content on repeat these days,but first I divide it into categories,then I look at them all carefully,and I select them carefully,and I discard many,in a similar series I choose a maximum of 2-3 that are best for me...in short,a long process that takes time.

some (many?) contributors don't care,they just want to generate and upload and Adobe shouldn't allow that.

However,in Mat's latest livestream,he said that they are working on it.

I think their situation also needs to be understood,because they are working on many things at the same time,I can only imagine what a mess they are dealing with!

cobalt · « **Reply #75 on:** October 24, 2023, 05:28 »

Again I had some seasonal ai illustrations inspected within 14 days. But not everything. There must be some reviewers going through the queue and picking out some seasonal content earlier.

I really appreciate that. So I added some autumn content in the hope it still has a little chance.

My ai photos seem to reviewed at around one month which is also an improevment.

Overall my backlog has decreased from having 300 files in the queue to around 100.

If it stays like this I am fine, it makes timing seasonal content a lot easier.

But just in case I am already uploading a little easter and even summer.

erik trikowich · « **Reply #77 on:** October 24, 2023, 13:37 »

Quote from: MatHayward on October 24, 2023, 11:15

They pointed out that when they hired me, they were hoping for "human intelligence". Clearly, that didn't work out so this one was a swing and a miss.
Mat

But in reality, whose intelligence is it? Or are you hinting that if you work with artificial intelligence for a long time, become a cyborg

And is it worth understanding that you are no longer associated with Adobe Stock at all?

cascoly · « **Reply #78 on:** October 24, 2023, 15:39 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on October 23, 2023, 19:14

Quote from: cascoly on October 23, 2023, 13:21
the problem isnt just the long review times - it's random chance of review - many here reporting reviews of a week while others have images stewing for months.

i recently had a handful of images rejected (for the usual vague 'quality' reasons) that were submitted about a week ago, while many others (including AIM) have been there for 2 months

maybe it depends on the quantity you send,I never have such long times,a couple of weeks max,because I send about a thousand contents in a year.
...

while i've had over 700 images accepted at SS over the last 2 months, i've limited my uploads to AS to 50-100 per week. I continued to upload in order to get in line for the long review times.

meanwhile i have only had a few rejections since the end of august but none approved since then either.

worse, the system still rejects ai-gen for lack of model release -- it just rejected a series sent a month ago - and when you click to re-submit, it shows it knows the image is ai-gen but now has an addtl box to click that says "people here are fictional" and even worser, after making the changes, and saving or submitting again (the prompts vary!) nothing happens - the image doesnt show up in 'new' or 'submitted'

[i've send a msg to suppoort]

Injustice for all · « **Reply #79 on:** October 24, 2023, 19:25 »

Quote from: cascoly on October 24, 2023, 15:39

Quote from: Injustice for all on October 23, 2023, 19:14
Quote from: cascoly on October 23, 2023, 13:21
the problem isnt just the long review times - it's random chance of review - many here reporting reviews of a week while others have images stewing for months.

i recently had a handful of images rejected (for the usual vague 'quality' reasons) that were submitted about a week ago, while many others (including AIM) have been there for 2 months

maybe it depends on the quantity you send,I never have such long times,a couple of weeks max,because I send about a thousand contents in a year.
...

while i've had over 700 images accepted at SS over the last 2 months, i've limited my uploads to AS to 50-100 per week. I continued to upload in order to get in line for the long review times.

meanwhile i have only had a few rejections since the end of august but none approved since then either.

worse, the system still rejects ai-gen for lack of model release -- it just rejected a series sent a month ago - and when you click to re-submit, it shows it knows the image is ai-gen but now has an addtl box to click that says "people here are fictional" and even worser, after making the changes, and saving or submitting again (the prompts vary!) nothing happens - the image doesnt show up in 'new' or 'submitted'

[i've send a msg to suppoort]

yes now you have to check the box that states that the people are not real,so when you sent them there was no option to check the box and they were rejected?and then you couldn't even send them again...what a mess!

so the fact that you had few rejections until August and then none approved,confirms my weird theory that there is an increase in the rejection rate towards the end of the year,and that therefore the quantity uploaded affects rejections.

Dog-maDe-sign · « **Reply #80 on:** October 25, 2023, 16:10 »

Quote from: MatHayward on October 24, 2023, 11:15

Quote from: Dog-maDe-sign on October 23, 2023, 07:05
Hey Mat, don't you think Adobe should hire some new employees, with human intelligence, for real contents review?

I tried suggesting that, word for word. They pointed out that when they hired me, they were hoping for "human intelligence". Clearly, that didn't work out so this one was a swing and a miss. Thanks so much for the helpful suggestion though

Mat

Thumbs up for you, Mat
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