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Agency Based Discussion => Adobe Stock => Topic started by: KarenH on May 18, 2015, 09:07

Title: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: KarenH on May 18, 2015, 09:07
I noticed this site offering derivative products from Fotolia images -- looks like they scraped the whole site, because all of the images have Fotolia watermarks.   Fotolia says they're not a partner site, and that in order to sell these, they would need to buy an extended license, which they haven't on any of mine (nor for two other Fotolia people I checked with whose images are here also).   Fotolia has been notified (the only guy that deals with this was out of the office for the week), and the website company hasn't responded to two emails. 

Does anyone here know anything about this site? 

vimagio.com  -- enter any keyword to search
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: dirkr on May 18, 2015, 09:49
Fotolia says they're not a partner site,

 Fotolia has been notified (the only guy that deals with this was out of the office for the week), and the company hasn't responded to two emails. 

Which of the two? Fotolia has said they are no partner or Fotolia has not responded yet?

To me that looks like one of their many API partners. They do allow print on demand through their API, and we (allegedly) get a regular license for each sold print instead of an EL upfront (and nothing for subsequent prints).
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: KarenH on May 18, 2015, 09:55
Fotolia responded and wrote "they are nor resellers of Fotolia, it seems they are selling derivative products such as canvas and wall stickers with those images.  Note that in order to do so, they need to purchase the files with an Extended RF license."   Then they asked me to send a DMCA complaint notice to them (Fotolia).   
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: ngaga35 on May 18, 2015, 13:46
I have found some my stuff there.  >:(
Thank's for the info KarenH.
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: grandaded on May 18, 2015, 14:03
Some of my images on there too, with identical keywords as on Fotolia and with the Fotolia watermark. Interesting!
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: GoncaloF on May 18, 2015, 15:17
and the ids are the same
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: MatHayward on May 18, 2015, 16:39
I was just made aware of this thread. I'm looking into it and will let you know when I find something out.

-Mat
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: Anthony on May 18, 2015, 22:39
Im fairly new to this with only 150 files at Fotolia, and I too have found several of my files on this site with no extended licenses purchased from Fotolia.

One of my files that I found on Vimago has not even sold on Fotolia. How is that possible?
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: emjaysmith on May 19, 2015, 00:39
MY files and my partners are there too. Seems a bit blatant to display images from any agency with the full watermark still there if they aren't a "partner" of some kind.
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: rimglow on May 19, 2015, 08:27
I seems my whole portfolio is there, including images that I uploaded only last week. What is this?
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: KarenH on May 19, 2015, 08:47
They had one of mine on their site literally the day after it was accepted by Fotolia.   :(      If you find one of your images, then down on the lower right side of the page there is a tab marked "Author Portfolio" where they show other images.  However, I've found a whole lot more than what is in that tab, and it does seem like they have the entire portfolio. 
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: ultimagina on May 19, 2015, 09:19
They even mirror my footage advertised as "wall mural"!  :o


Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: fotorob on May 19, 2015, 09:57
Fotolia just replied to me that this site has an official API key.
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: PixelBytes on May 19, 2015, 10:53
Im fairly new to this with only 150 files at Fotolia, and I too have found several of my files on this site with no extended licenses purchased from Fotolia.

One of my files that I found on Vimago has not even sold on Fotolia. How is that possible?

Mat, if thie is a official api partner, as Rob was told, then why aren't the sales showing up on FT?!
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: tickstock on May 19, 2015, 10:57
Im fairly new to this with only 150 files at Fotolia, and I too have found several of my files on this site with no extended licenses purchased from Fotolia.

One of my files that I found on Vimago has not even sold on Fotolia. How is that possible?

Mat, if thie is a official api partner, as Rob was told, then why aren't the sales showing up on FT?!
How do you know sales aren't showing up?  If it's an API then you get paid when they sell one of the products not before.
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: PixelBytes on May 19, 2015, 11:05
Im fairly new to this with only 150 files at Fotolia, and I too have found several of my files on this site with no extended licenses purchased from Fotolia.

One of my files that I found on Vimago has not even sold on Fotolia. How is that possible?

Mat, if thie is a official api partner, as Rob was told, then why aren't the sales showing up on FT?!
How do you know sales aren't showing up?  If it's an API then you get paid when they sell one of the products not before.

I quoted Anthony who found images with no sales on FT.  But now I see what you mean.   If it didn't sell on API it would not show sold on FT.  Must get coffee to clear cobwebs from my brain.
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: MatHayward on May 19, 2015, 11:29
Hi all,

@KarenH, it appears you were given incorrect information. I am very sorry for the confusion. Vimagio does have an api key and they are selling our images legitimately on your behalf. Commissions on sales created through their site are paid immediately through your Fotolia account.

You can read more information about the api program here: https://us.fotolia.com/Services/API

regards,

Mat


Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: KarenH on May 19, 2015, 11:46
I appreciate the response Mat, and your checking into it.  I have to say though that I'm really disappointed with the other people at Fotolia for not knowing this (or not thinking it important enough to look into) when it was first reported a week ago.  Thanks for the info!   

One other question though, the original person at Fotolia that was asked about this said that an extended license was required to be purchased to sell such derivative works.  Does the fact that they have an api key change anything about this requirement? 
Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: Dumc on May 19, 2015, 13:35
They don't need EL beacuse they're not re-selling photos. They are selling it on behalf of fotolia.

Title: Re: Suspicious website offering Fotolia images??
Post by: ultimagina on May 19, 2015, 13:58
I still don't see how they can make a 62" wide poster out of a video clip :)