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Title: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Canonbabe on May 28, 2015, 20:18
It's been a little than a month since Fotolia launched it's restyled site. While getting used to the new categories I noticed that my sales dropped!
I used to have a couple of bigger, extended licence sales each month but all I got were subscriptions and a few 6 credit sales. Is it just coincidence or is anyone else experiencing the same thing?
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: PZF on May 29, 2015, 03:25
Same gentle tickover as ever....no better no worse....
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Steveball on May 29, 2015, 04:13
About 20% of normal, virtually dead since redesign.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Dodie on May 29, 2015, 07:05
Of course sales are dropping. The new categories are not the same as the old ones were, so many of my old images were automatically placed in totally wrong categories by some machine. Not to mention that keyword phrases and keywords in plural once allowed are deleted now.
Just check the information panel of the images to see your actual keywords.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Semmick Photo on May 29, 2015, 07:40
Of course sales are dropping. The new categories are not the same as the old ones were, so many of my old images were automatically placed in totally wrong categories by some machine. Not to mention that keyword phrases and keywords in plural once allowed are deleted now.
Just check the information panel of the images to see your actual keywords.
Do you have any supporting information that buyers were purchasing your images through a category?
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Cesar on May 29, 2015, 08:22
i have lower sales too, my rank drop from 600 to 850, my explanation was , my images are not popular anymore, my rank fall, so someone must sell more.

iam anyway  disappointed, they screw us every year , maybe closing account is not bad idea.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: marthamarks on May 29, 2015, 08:54
maybe closing account is not bad idea.

Not a bad idea at all. It has the double benefit of:

a) making 100% sure your images stay out of DPC

and

b) lowering your blood pressure, since you don't have to worry about what contributor-cheating scheme FT will come up with next AND you don't have to wrestle with new upload hassles.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Dumc on May 29, 2015, 09:00
Last three months, my sales are better then ever. Lots of credit sales also.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: dbvirago on May 29, 2015, 09:02
For me, Fotolia has been on a steady climb since late last year. Since the redesign, it has started falling sharply. With the extra time submitting to a site that was already tedious, I will stop uploading if this trend continues.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Dodie on May 29, 2015, 09:47
Of course sales are dropping. The new categories are not the same as the old ones were, so many of my old images were automatically placed in totally wrong categories by some machine. Not to mention that keyword phrases and keywords in plural once allowed are deleted now.
Just check the information panel of the images to see your actual keywords.
Do you have any supporting information that buyers were purchasing your images through a category?

No I don't, how could I? Do you have any supporting information that they don't?
Anyway, my main concern are the keyword. Do you doubt their importance as well?
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Semmick Photo on May 29, 2015, 09:52

Of course sales are dropping. The new categories are not the same as the old ones were, so many of my old images were automatically placed in totally wrong categories by some machine. Not to mention that keyword phrases and keywords in plural once allowed are deleted now.
Just check the information panel of the images to see your actual keywords.
Do you have any supporting information that buyers were purchasing your images through a category?

No I don't, how could I? Do you have any supporting information that they don't?
Anyway, my main concern are the keyword. Do you doubt their importance as well?
Maybe their search now returns both single and plural likw SS.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Dodie on May 29, 2015, 10:09

Of course sales are dropping. The new categories are not the same as the old ones were, so many of my old images were automatically placed in totally wrong categories by some machine. Not to mention that keyword phrases and keywords in plural once allowed are deleted now.
Just check the information panel of the images to see your actual keywords.
Do you have any supporting information that buyers were purchasing your images through a category?

No I don't, how could I? Do you have any supporting information that they don't?
Anyway, my main concern are the keyword. Do you doubt their importance as well?
Maybe their search now returns both single and plural likw SS.

I don't know. What I know is that some of my images have 10 keywords left out of 26. I contacted support and the answer was that those are not in US English "indexing language", whatever that means.
These are some of the keywords that don't show up because they are not in English : rubber mallet, sawn granite, permeable paving etc.
They are indeed somewhat technical terms but so are the images.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: PixelBytes on May 29, 2015, 18:07
For me, Fotolia has been on a steady climb since late last year. Since the redesign, it has started falling sharply. With the extra time submitting to a site that was already tedious, I will stop uploading if this trend continues.

This is my exact same experience.  Sales last year pitiful. Since Nov. or so on the rise to nearly double what they were, then this month - crash.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Phadrea on June 18, 2015, 14:21
Just joined Fotolia and made 2 sales but at 0.15 and 0.18  each, what kind of joke is this ? Even worse than SS 0.33. Talk about a race to the bottom.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Dumc on June 18, 2015, 14:35
Maybe you should fill out a tax form.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Phadrea on June 18, 2015, 16:33
I have. And I am waiting for the next rejected application.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: iandmph on June 22, 2015, 16:52
Hello. I just started publishing on Fotolia. I have 100 photo big portfolio. I have very low sales. Can someone tell me how much (avr.) should I expect to earn in first month? Just if you want to share your experience... tnx!
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: fritz on June 22, 2015, 18:42
Hello. I just started publishing on Fotolia. I have 100 photo big portfolio. I have very low sales. Can someone tell me how much (avr.) should I expect to earn in first month? Just if you want to share your experience... tnx!
Hard to predict! My port on FT is 10k+ but can't get more than 500-600 dl per month. Now you calculate what to expect with 100 files? Anyway, maybe  my port is not suitable for FT
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: ultimagina on June 22, 2015, 19:55
Hello. I just started publishing on Fotolia. I have 100 photo big portfolio. I have very low sales. Can someone tell me how much (avr.) should I expect to earn in first month? Just if you want to share your experience... tnx!
Hard to predict! My port on FT is 10k+ but can't get more than 500-600 dl per month. Now you calculate what to expect with 100 files? Anyway, maybe  my port is not suitable for FT
Hmm... ~300 DLs/month from a 300 port. It's not only a numbers game.

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Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Hongover on June 22, 2015, 22:01

Hmm... ~300 DLs/month from a 300 port. It's not only a numbers game.

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Agreed. Volume is only a small part of the bigger equation. I believe quality and targeting specific markets with high demand is a bigger part of it.

Ultimagaina, you have a great portfolio. It's no wonder you get such good download numbers for such a small collection of photos.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Pierre on June 23, 2015, 03:50
Adobe is an engineering company, as expected they're now reinventing the wheel ... but hey give 'em some time to fix all the bugs ...

Plurals : yeah and what about languages where apart the plurals you also use declinations etc ? all these search engines are just a big mess.



Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Steveball on June 23, 2015, 04:30
90% drop since Adobe and zero sales for 13 days, are they open!
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: iandmph on June 23, 2015, 04:49

Hmm... ~300 DLs/month from a 300 port. It's not only a numbers game.

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Agreed. Volume is only a small part of the bigger equation. I believe quality and targeting specific markets with high demand is a bigger part of it.

Ultimagaina, you have a great portfolio. It's no wonder you get such good download numbers for such a small collection of photos.

Tnx for answer! I find it useful.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: mr_coffee on June 23, 2015, 10:33
My sales decreased as well. But I am not sure if it is related to the Adobe change.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Johnski2015 on June 24, 2015, 02:19
My sales have dropped to almost nothing - it is a little worrying
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Dumc on June 24, 2015, 02:33
I'm doing very well, that is - for my standards ofcourse. I actually just had 2.67€ sub sale.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: HalfFull on June 24, 2015, 03:02
No difference. On course to the typical 15-20% monthly increase. Approx. 1050dls from 2.2k files. Not really expecting huge increase from either the redesign or Adobe CC straightaway.

Designers contracts with agencies need to come to an end before they jump ship (if they jump ship). Until then, numbers will increase but probably only in smaller numbers.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Sebastian Radu on June 24, 2015, 03:13
For me, there are not major changes.
Certainly there was no increase happened,  maybe a slight decrease
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Phadrea on June 29, 2015, 00:56
As I am new to Fotolia, so far I have earned 3.56 credits. Is this money or not ?
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: cobalt on June 29, 2015, 01:16
I am having an unusally low month on fotolia,although last week at least I got sales every day.

I guess i need to upload more.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: lionheart on June 29, 2015, 03:23
The assumed rise in income didn't take place - at least not for me.
So until now nothing changed in a noticeable way.

However: Uploaded files are pending for already a week now ...
Maybe that's something new ...
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Noedelhap on June 29, 2015, 05:18
As I am new to Fotolia, so far I have earned 3.56 credits. Is this money or not ?

If you have a US ($) account, it's $3.56 when you convert your credits into cash. If you have a European (€) account, it's €3,56.

Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: mojaric on June 29, 2015, 06:43
my sales are quite the same
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Julied83 on June 29, 2015, 06:52
I got a little increase. Or maybe it's my seasonal image that make this happening and not the adobe change.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: BigBubba on June 29, 2015, 09:09
1 day to go for this month an FT was fantastic (has been for a while now).  How fantastic? Just 2.5$ behind SS.


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Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Noedelhap on June 30, 2015, 17:31
The same number of sales, but higher royalties.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: hairybiker777 on June 30, 2015, 20:48
Volume same, value up around 33%. Small port though... we're only talking a few more Big Macs, not early retirement :)
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Yay Images Billionaire on June 30, 2015, 22:35
I'm seeing the opposite. My sales for the last few months are double to triple what they were.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Sebastian Radu on July 01, 2015, 00:24
Nothing change for me  :-\
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: hansenn on July 01, 2015, 02:54
may was bad, june slightly below average.
But it isn't only ft with lower sales.
I think the holiday dip has already started :-[
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: sharpshot on July 01, 2015, 04:19
Not noticed any increase in sales.  My portfolio still seems to remain well hidden.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: Metsafile on July 01, 2015, 07:39
The same as it ever was.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: HalfFull on July 01, 2015, 07:49
Month ended with a 24% increase in $ over previous BME with an 18% increase in vol of dls. They continue to impress with their consistency of improvement in terms of $'s and Vol. This is before the changes with adobe have had a chance to take effect (old sub contracts etc need to expire before moving to Adobe).
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: mcuda on July 08, 2015, 09:34
Mine have actually increased and currently are outperforming Shutterstock for the month.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: NitorPhoto on July 09, 2015, 07:39
For me Fotolia is something I do not understand. I already gave up to understand it.
I have 24k images online. There were times when I have been in the TOP10 in their weakly top list and my overall position was 20th or 21st. The site earned me some nice money. Then something changed in 2012 but I do not know what. I remember when my weakly position droped to 50-60 I thought it can not be worse.  A year later I was out of the top100... then out of the 500... now my weakly position is 992 while my overall position is still no39 which is not that bad. My income droped to the 15% of my BME (2011). I have no idea why.
Fotolia is dead for me and it seems this will not change in the Adobe area... unfortunately.
Title: Re: The new fotolia...low sales
Post by: objowl on July 09, 2015, 11:34
My Weekly position is worse than my Overall position, which doesn't happen often.  :'(
Maybe because last week was good with an all too rare EL on Fotolia.