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Uncle Pete

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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2022, 12:26 »
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Out of all the stock site submission pages I use, it is in my view that Adobe Stock's submission page is one of the most poorly designed. The whole process of having to spend an age re-arranging the keywords in order of popularity - of which you have to scroll up and down the page constantly,  is unnecessarily cumbersome and time-consuming.

Whilst Shutterstock have many faults, they have a submission page that enables you to submit images far faster and easiest than Adobe's submission page.

At the beginning I was very frustrated with the poor keyword ordering interface too! But now I write the top ten keywords in order of importance in Photoshop, as this is useful for a couple of stock websites.

Now, I find the Adobe Stock submission process one of the fastest and easiest of all agencies.

problem is, we don't know what the top 10 keywords are for buyers!  most will use the top 10 tags they can think of for a generic search, but miss the many other uses buyers can find.  and the top 10 approach is self-defeating - if everyone uses the same top 10, they're still lost among thousands of images, not rising to the top.

so, i can use the top 10 very specific keywords and miss the more generic searches, or vice versa

True, but if I use data from the sites that tell me the top ten words (which would be a nice addition) that's useful. I can put those top ten on Adobe or pick my personal top ten.

The same arguments against a top ten are in favor of why we should have them. Because without our direction, the images are lost in thousands of other images, with the same words, because all of them have 50 keywords that are all the same? Keyword suggestions are often terrible and flawed but some people will use them because, "Must Have 50 words."

I like the idea of making the images more discoverable, through Supertags or Higher ranked keywords. Plus the other words aren't ignored, they just aren't featured.

IS and SS do that, without asking or telling us. They reorder keywords and give better weighting to some, based on what they think they want to push up towards the top. I'm still in favor of, not with any certainty I admit, that I have some personal control over how image is presented or ranked. Probably just my imagination anyway?

If that's an advantage over bad matches, spammed words and concepts, or some random placement controlled by the agency, I'll take it.


SVH

« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2022, 12:43 »
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All nice to discuss things of what Adobe could improve and I am sure Mat will be listening in, but does anyone have one example of an idea that was posted here that has been implemented by Adobe, because we would like to have it?
If so, I'll rest my case, but I think they are just listening and nothing else. Others might be as well but they don't have a liaison coming over here. And maybe we are just to small of a community to have any impact at all.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2022, 13:12 »
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All nice to discuss things of what Adobe could improve and I am sure Mat will be listening in, but does anyone have one example of an idea that was posted here that has been implemented by Adobe, because we would like to have it?
If so, I'll rest my case, but I think they are just listening and nothing else. Others might be as well but they don't have a liaison coming over here. And maybe we are just to small of a community to have any impact at all.

It's kind of like the keyword order debate. Mat listens and takes what he hears to the people who he can tell about opinions and ideas. Maybe something can change because of that. Maybe my keywords in my order will work better... that's also maybe not. Maybe some day, what Mat expresses for us will make a difference, maybe not.

I'm happy that he takes the time.

zeljkok

  • Non Linear Existence
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2022, 13:20 »
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All nice to discuss things of what Adobe could improve and I am sure Mat will be listening in, but does anyone have one example of an idea that was posted here that has been implemented by Adobe, because we would like to have it?
If so, I'll rest my case, but I think they are just listening and nothing else.

Totally agree. You can tell from lots of small things they never intended to put too much effort in contributor interface.  Example is search for photo, if you want to update keywords for instance.  One of most requested features. They figured workaround (search for photo as customer would, note ID, then search by that ID in contributor portal), end of story.

I can understand that philosophy,  as contributor interface is not profitable & thus not worth investing time/effort, so I'm fine as long as functionality is there, even if it needs clunky workaround.  But functionality is still lacking in other parts, and that is the problem

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2022, 13:31 »
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All nice to discuss things of what Adobe could improve and I am sure Mat will be listening in, but does anyone have one example of an idea that was posted here that has been implemented by Adobe, because we would like to have it?
If so, I'll rest my case, but I think they are just listening and nothing else.

Totally agree. You can tell from lots of small things they never intended to put too much effort in contributor interface.  Example is search for photo, if you want to update keywords for instance.  One of most requested features. They figured workaround (search for photo as customer would, note ID, then search by that ID in contributor portal), end of story.

I can understand that philosophy,  as contributor interface is not profitable & thus not worth investing time/effort, so I'm fine as long as functionality is there, even if it needs clunky workaround.  But functionality is still lacking in other parts, and that is the problem

Oh I forgot that part. If there was one feature I'd like it's easy access to our own work, so we can verify, edit and revise. The whole find it, copy then go somewhere else and paste to edit is beyond functional or easy to use.


SVH

« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2022, 13:36 »
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All nice to discuss things of what Adobe could improve and I am sure Mat will be listening in, but does anyone have one example of an idea that was posted here that has been implemented by Adobe, because we would like to have it?
If so, I'll rest my case, but I think they are just listening and nothing else. Others might be as well but they don't have a liaison coming over here. And maybe we are just to small of a community to have any impact at all.

It's kind of like the keyword order debate. Mat listens and takes what he hears to the people who he can tell about opinions and ideas. Maybe something can change because of that. Maybe my keywords in my order will work better... that's also maybe not. Maybe some day, what Mat expresses for us will make a difference, maybe not.

I'm happy that he takes the time.


Don't get me wrong Pete. Mat is a good guy but I consider him as liaison and no more then that. He is here to listen to us, tell us everything is fine and your opinion is really appreciated but no more then that.

Things we ask, I don't see no return, do you? Over all this years? If so, please tell me.

I appreciate Mat, but he is being paid to be here and other agencies don't take the time and money to send somebody out here. I think that's the only difference.

zeljkok

  • Non Linear Existence
« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2022, 18:19 »
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Oh I forgot that part. If there was one feature I'd like it's easy access to our own work, so we can verify, edit and revise. The whole find it, copy then go somewhere else and paste to edit is beyond functional or easy to use.

Yes. See, that's exactly my point - photo search, editing of keywords etc. - bare bones, but very clunky and user unfriendly.  Why put the effort for something ultra sleek, when it doesn't really bring any profit.

[btw, dumb elephant - you know which one - got 4.50 on Dreamstime today.  Still original one, lol]

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2022, 16:06 »
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Oh I forgot that part. If there was one feature I'd like it's easy access to our own work, so we can verify, edit and revise. The whole find it, copy then go somewhere else and paste to edit is beyond functional or easy to use.

Yes. See, that's exactly my point - photo search, editing of keywords etc. - bare bones, but very clunky and user unfriendly.  Why put the effort for something ultra sleek, when it doesn't really bring any profit.

[btw, dumb elephant - you know which one - got 4.50 on Dreamstime today.  Still original one, lol]

Good images never stop selling, which is one of the small joys of working at this.  Sometimes an image just clicks with buyers. I wish I had more of those.

« Reply #33 on: May 04, 2022, 03:34 »
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Suggested improvement No. Whatever.

"Thanks for the opertunity to review your work but it sucks"
Rejection reason: technical issue (for adobe not SS apprently)

Click here to find out why which will whisk you off down a rabbit hole to the main page of a never ending load of click bait which will result in knowing zero about what specific technical issue you fell foul of.

So yeah - actual technical issue information rather than nonsense would be great. I would have put it more politically correctly like:

 "Dear Adobe gang (you guys rock btw) it would be super helpful to have some idea which specific technical issue was found on my photo so that I can correct the issue and keep providing you all-stars my best images and keep living my best life"

But I won't. I don't know you. I don't care. In reality 10% of you are one stresser event away from becoming serial killers or starting an office fire. Your days are numbered as the ever over reliance on A.I. will see you living in a trailer park and sleeping on a outdoor couch as functioning alcoholics. Where I will find you and take your photo weeks before you fall foul of some hideous X rated event only seen in the darkest regions of Tarantino's mind.

So yeah more specificity on what technical issue was the issue. I don't want to ask 'the helpful community' which are in all probability a feral collection of rabid has beens endlessly ripping and snarling with each other until an innocent chump turns up waving a jpeg before being tossed aside. A mere husk of the broken English speaking person they were before. And then watch them fawn all over you thanking you for their are raping.

Nope a simple "out of focus" " crap composition" "not a unicorn" quick note would do wonders for the productivity of the Eloi.

SVH

« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2022, 11:07 »
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Suggested improvement No. Whatever.

"Thanks for the opertunity to review your work but it sucks"
Rejection reason: technical issue (for adobe not SS apprently)

Click here to find out why which will whisk you off down a rabbit hole to the main page of a never ending load of click bait which will result in knowing zero about what specific technical issue you fell foul of.

So yeah - actual technical issue information rather than nonsense would be great. I would have put it more politically correctly like:

 "Dear Adobe gang (you guys rock btw) it would be super helpful to have some idea which specific technical issue was found on my photo so that I can correct the issue and keep providing you all-stars my best images and keep living my best life"

But I won't. I don't know you. I don't care. In reality 10% of you are one stresser event away from becoming serial killers or starting an office fire. Your days are numbered as the ever over reliance on A.I. will see you living in a trailer park and sleeping on a outdoor couch as functioning alcoholics. Where I will find you and take your photo weeks before you fall foul of some hideous X rated event only seen in the darkest regions of Tarantino's mind.

So yeah more specificity on what technical issue was the issue. I don't want to ask 'the helpful community' which are in all probability a feral collection of rabid has beens endlessly ripping and snarling with each other until an innocent chump turns up waving a jpeg before being tossed aside. A mere husk of the broken English speaking person they were before. And then watch them fawn all over you thanking you for their are raping.

Nope a simple "out of focus" " crap composition" "not a unicorn" quick note would do wonders for the productivity of the Eloi.

Lol :)

I would also accept "we are not interested in these type of photos" or "we already have millions of photos like that". I also don't care if it's an offence reason as long as I understand what the issue actually is. Then, at least, you know how not to produce the same misstake again. It will save costs for Adobe as well in the end by just putting a little more effort in the feedback to the contributor. The current reasons are way to vague and you cannot act on them.

« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2022, 12:20 »
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Your days are numbered as the ever over reliance on A.I. will see you living in a trailer park and sleeping on a outdoor couch as functioning alcoholics. Where I will find you and take your photo weeks before you fall foul of some hideous X rated event only seen in the darkest regions of Tarantino's mind.

For the record, I will not sign a model release!

-Mat Hayward
« Last Edit: May 04, 2022, 12:37 by MatHayward »

« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2022, 13:40 »
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Your days are numbered as the ever over reliance on A.I. will see you living in a trailer park and sleeping on a outdoor couch as functioning alcoholics. Where I will find you and take your photo weeks before you fall foul of some hideous X rated event only seen in the darkest regions of Tarantino's mind.

For the record, I will not sign a model release!

-Mat Hayward

"You have no right to expectation of privacy in a publicly accessible place"

Sorry dude I don't need one. You are literally one A.I. evolution away from a compromising Tik Tok upload. 😊😉


 

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