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Agency Based Discussion => Adobe Stock => Topic started by: MatHayward on June 23, 2022, 16:16
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Hi Everyone,
In case you missed the livestream I hosted today, I wanted to share the link. For videographers specifically, you may be interested in considering adding vertical video to your portfolio if you haven't done so already (if you already had, you might want to re-submit, we explain why during the livestream). During the livestream I was joined by Tom Spota who is the Senior Manager in charge of motion at Adobe Stock. He spoke specs and subjects to shoot and I think it's worth a watch. If you only want to watch that segment, it starts at 13:39 and lasts around 15 minutes.
https://www.behance.net/videos/dd33b0f0-0401-402f-b717-032cbc98677c/Get-Moving-with-Corey-Jenkins (https://www.behance.net/videos/dd33b0f0-0401-402f-b717-032cbc98677c/Get-Moving-with-Corey-Jenkins)
I was later joined by a fantastic sports cinematographer and photographer named Corey Jenkins who shared some very valuable insight into his career. Worth a watch in my opinion.
Thanks!
Mat Hayward
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Thanks for the share Matt
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Vertical video is the worst, but if there's money in it, I'm in.
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Thank-you so much!!!!
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Hi Everyone,
In case you missed the livestream I hosted today, I wanted to share the link. For videographers specifically, you may be interested in considering adding vertical video to your portfolio if you haven't done so already (if you already had, you might want to re-submit, we explain why during the livestream). During the livestream I was joined by Tom Spota who is the Senior Manager in charge of motion at Adobe Stock. He spoke specs and subjects to shoot and I think it's worth a watch. If you only want to watch that segment, it starts at 13:39 and lasts around 15 minutes.
https://www.behance.net/videos/dd33b0f0-0401-402f-b717-032cbc98677c/Get-Moving-with-Corey-Jenkins (https://www.behance.net/videos/dd33b0f0-0401-402f-b717-032cbc98677c/Get-Moving-with-Corey-Jenkins)
I was later joined by a fantastic sports cinematographer and photographer named Corey Jenkins who shared some very valuable insight into his career. Worth a watch in my opinion.
Thanks!
Mat Hayward
Hi Matt,
recently (some months ago) I uploaded animations in square format which were refused because of the format not accepted at the time. Do you think they should be accepted now ?
Thx
Benoit
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Hi Everyone,
In case you missed the livestream I hosted today, I wanted to share the link. For videographers specifically, you may be interested in considering adding vertical video to your portfolio if you haven't done so already (if you already had, you might want to re-submit, we explain why during the livestream). During the livestream I was joined by Tom Spota who is the Senior Manager in charge of motion at Adobe Stock. He spoke specs and subjects to shoot and I think it's worth a watch. If you only want to watch that segment, it starts at 13:39 and lasts around 15 minutes.
https://www.behance.net/videos/dd33b0f0-0401-402f-b717-032cbc98677c/Get-Moving-with-Corey-Jenkins (https://www.behance.net/videos/dd33b0f0-0401-402f-b717-032cbc98677c/Get-Moving-with-Corey-Jenkins)
I was later joined by a fantastic sports cinematographer and photographer named Corey Jenkins who shared some very valuable insight into his career. Worth a watch in my opinion.
Thanks!
Mat Hayward
Hi Matt,
recently (some months ago) I uploaded animations in square format which were refused because of the format not accepted at the time. Do you think they should be accepted now ?
Thx
Benoit
No, I don't believe so. Tom covers the acceptable resolution options during the livestream I had linked above.
Thanks for the question,
Mat
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Thank you, will watch that tonight.
I am trying to do more vertical, as I think it is really useful for social media applications or these large vertical screens in train stations or public places.
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Hi Everyone,
In case you missed the livestream I hosted today, I wanted to share the link. For videographers specifically, you may be interested in considering adding vertical video to your portfolio if you haven't done so already (if you already had, you might want to re-submit, we explain why during the livestream). During the livestream I was joined by Tom Spota who is the Senior Manager in charge of motion at Adobe Stock. He spoke specs and subjects to shoot and I think it's worth a watch. If you only want to watch that segment, it starts at 13:39 and lasts around 15 minutes.
https://www.behance.net/videos/dd33b0f0-0401-402f-b717-032cbc98677c/Get-Moving-with-Corey-Jenkins (https://www.behance.net/videos/dd33b0f0-0401-402f-b717-032cbc98677c/Get-Moving-with-Corey-Jenkins)
I was later joined by a fantastic sports cinematographer and photographer named Corey Jenkins who shared some very valuable insight into his career. Worth a watch in my opinion.
Thanks!
Mat Hayward
Hi Matt,
recently (some months ago) I uploaded animations in square format which were refused because of the format not accepted at the time. Do you think they should be accepted now ?
Thx
Benoit
No, I don't believe so. Tom covers the acceptable resolution options during the livestream I had linked above.
Thanks for the question,
Mat
Thanks for answering.
Well unfortunately it seems that the inspection staff should be informed of the acceptance of vertical videos, because I just submitted four 4k videos (2160x3840 px) which were refused for "technical reasons". For information it is similar adapted versions of normal 4k files which were all accepted...
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So I think i will be switching to the "no vertical uploads mode" until this is resolved ;)
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Or maybe this is because I'm submitting on the french Adobe Stock contributor site ?... ???
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Or maybe this is because I'm submitting on the french Adobe Stock contributor site ?... ???
Well after taking a look on the 'technical requirements' page, it is still recommended to "Avoid vertical or square framing" for video contents.
Too early to start uploading I guess...
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Or maybe this is because I'm submitting on the french Adobe Stock contributor site ?... ???
Well after taking a look on the 'technical requirements' page, it is still recommended to "Avoid vertical or square framing" for video contents.
Too early to start uploading I guess...
That page you reerenced will be updated shortly with the updated informaiton on vertical videos. If you submitted vertical videos and they were rejected for technical reasons, it was not because you uploaded them in vertical format. What were the file numbers? I'll be happy to take a look for you.
-Mat
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Or maybe this is because I'm submitting on the french Adobe Stock contributor site ?... ???
Well after taking a look on the 'technical requirements' page, it is still recommended to "Avoid vertical or square framing" for video contents.
Too early to start uploading I guess...
That page you reerenced will be updated shortly with the updated informaiton on vertical videos. If you submitted vertical videos and they were rejected for technical reasons, it was not because you uploaded them in vertical format. What were the file numbers? I'll be happy to take a look for you.
-Mat
Thanks Mat,
after taking a look the files were exported with default settings on my after codec plug in putting them in 3840x2160.
Apologize for all, I will submit a proper 2160x3840 and we'll see.
Thank you very much for helping!
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Or maybe this is because I'm submitting on the french Adobe Stock contributor site ?... ???
Well after taking a look on the 'technical requirements' page, it is still recommended to "Avoid vertical or square framing" for video contents.
Too early to start uploading I guess...
That page you reerenced will be updated shortly with the updated informaiton on vertical videos. If you submitted vertical videos and they were rejected for technical reasons, it was not because you uploaded them in vertical format. What were the file numbers? I'll be happy to take a look for you.
-Mat
Thanks Mat,
after taking a look the files were exported with default settings on my after codec plug in putting them in 3840x2160.
Apologize for all, I will submit a proper 2160x3840 and we'll see.
Thank you very much for helping!
Hi Mat,
it's ok, after reuploading proper 4k 2160x3840px videos, they have been accepted.
I hope this format will bring some popularity in the buyers community and a new source of income (fingers crossed...)
Thanks!
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Vertical video are mostly useful for social media, and someone, posting a video on twitter will not pay big money for it. And then people will complain, when they get $2 for video.
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Vertical video are mostly useful for social media, and someone, posting a video on twitter will not pay big money for it. And then people will complain, when they get $2 for video.
Correct, moreover vertical videos need only a phone and minimal skills. Anyone can make them.
So $2 might be ok.
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...vertical videos need only a phone and minimal skills. Anyone can make them.
Horizontal videos also need only a phone, minimal skills and anyone can make them. You just turn your phone 90 degrees.
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Not the same for motion graphics... maybe
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No, it's the same for everything.
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...vertical videos need only a phone and minimal skills. Anyone can make them.
Horizontal videos also need only a phone, minimal skills and anyone can make them. You just turn your phone 90 degrees.
Duh. ::)
Horizontal videos can be used for movies, TV, etc. These uses may require better quality and better skills than just what you can get away with on social media.
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So you're saying poor stock footage is easier to create than high quality stock footage? What a novel concept, I wonder why nobody has discovered that before. If you're using that qualifier then of course, but you didn't. And without it, vertical stock footage is no different than horizontal stock footage. Bad footage is different to good footage, yes, but just because footage is vertical, doesn't automatically mean it's bad. I'm sure there's plenty of good vertical footage that is considerably better than bad horizontal footage... and all you need to shoot that bad horizontal footage, is a mobile phone and minimal skills.
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So you're saying poor stock footage is easier to create than high quality stock footage? What a novel concept, I wonder why nobody has discovered that before. If you're using that qualifier then of course, but you didn't. And without it, vertical stock footage is no different than horizontal stock footage. Bad footage is different to good footage, yes, but just because footage is vertical, doesn't automatically mean it's bad. I'm sure there's plenty of good vertical footage that is considerably better than bad horizontal footage... and all you need to shoot that bad horizontal footage, is a mobile phone and minimal skills.
That's a truism.
I don't see too many video creators flipping their expensive gear, shooting in D-Log or raw, spending time editing vertical videos, when they could use those skills and gear to shoot quality horizontal videos that may sell for much more than $2.
Vertical video is meant to be shot and seen on a mobile phone.
The quality and the skills needed for this use are minimal. Anyone can do it. Minimal efforts and investments are needed and anyone can compete.
That's not the case for videos intended for movies, TV, etc where the expectations are much higher than from a cheap Facebook ad.
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Social media and blogs also use horizontal footage.
Personally, I see one of the biggest uses for vertical footage in those large screens for trade shows, shop windows or trainstations and airports. And you want good quality for that.
Every tool has its uses and I certainly enjoy my iphone, but for longterm quality stock, even vertical video buyers will appreciate good cameras and professional light.
I do hope Adobe promotes the s*** out of it and we finally see an uptick in video sales from Adobe.
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So you're saying poor stock footage is easier to create than high quality stock footage? What a novel concept, I wonder why nobody has discovered that before. If you're using that qualifier then of course, but you didn't. And without it, vertical stock footage is no different than horizontal stock footage. Bad footage is different to good footage, yes, but just because footage is vertical, doesn't automatically mean it's bad. I'm sure there's plenty of good vertical footage that is considerably better than bad horizontal footage... and all you need to shoot that bad horizontal footage, is a mobile phone and minimal skills.
That's a truism.
I don't see too many video creators flipping their expensive gear, shooting in D-Log or raw, spending time editing vertical videos, when they could use those skills and gear to shoot quality horizontal videos that may sell for much more than $2.
Vertical video is meant to be shot and seen on a mobile phone.
The quality and the skills needed for this use are minimal. Anyone can do it. Minimal efforts and investments are needed and anyone can compete.
That's not the case for videos intended for movies, TV, etc where the expectations are much higher than from a cheap Facebook ad.
I agree.
A few years ago, vertical video came in when Instagram started IGTV. Both P5 and SS started promoting them in their blogs so I made about 20 of them and uploaded them to both of those agencies at the time. I sold a couple over the years, but I don't consider them to be a high return market.
Vertical videos now used on social media such as Pinterest and Instagram are typically cell phone shots made by the user. Advertisers on those platforms also use them, but they can be produced very cheaply as well. Some may want extra shots such as waves on the beach, or sunsets or whatever, but it doesn't seem to be a big demand.
I found a larger and more lucrative market outside of microstock by selling directly to other type of buyers. I started off by offering my services for custom animated video for Etsy sellers. They need them for their listings. Etsy heavily promotes using videos in listings now. Custom work is very time-consuming, so I switched to just making animated video and stop motion templates using platforms where the buyer can easily edit and add their own text and logos, etc. This has been much more lucrative for me.
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I'm waiting for diagonal video created by people who don't hold their phones quite straight. I guess if enough people do that it will become a new video format. :)