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Title: Well done Adobe
Post by: Artist on December 15, 2021, 22:39
I am having the best year so far in Adobe
So happy to see any agency working so well. It not only surpassed SS far ahead but also crossed the combined earning from all the agencies.

Adobe deserves a huge applause.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: MatHayward on December 16, 2021, 09:23
I am having the best year so far in Adobe
So happy to see any agency working so well. It not only surpassed SS far ahead but also crossed the combined earning from all the agencies.

Adobe deserves a huge applause.

That is awesome news @Artist! I'm very pleased to start my day reading this message. I'll be sure to share this with the team today.

Happy Holidays!

Mat Hayward
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on December 16, 2021, 10:15
I can’t say they’ve beaten SS, but sales are consistent and while many are at the $.38 minimum, there are a lot for a dollar or three.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: jjneff on December 16, 2021, 10:17
Adobe is the only place my images find a home now! Good job!!
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: For Real on December 16, 2021, 10:20
Adobe has been my gem for the last few years as well! I load all my new content there first and decide on the others later on...
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Ukko on December 16, 2021, 11:26
I'm having the best month ever in Adobe so far but not so good that I could afford to buy even a used Hasselblad camera. Maybe one day my earnings will be at that level. :D
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Level6 on December 16, 2021, 12:33
Great to hear!, now if only Adobe would open up to taking editorial video and photos directly from contributors like Pond5 and SSTK do I wonder if it would be profitable for both contributors and Adobe.

Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Dumc on December 16, 2021, 12:47
While Adobe is doing really great for me lately also, I'm missing those big sales that you get at SS, thats why SS is still ahead for me. For example I got 120$ video sale this month, 50$ photo sale previous month, 34$ video sale in October, I can't remember when was the last time I got video or EL sale at Adobe....
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: wds on December 16, 2021, 12:54
Yes, I agree as well. Adobe is on an upward trajectory!
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Pacesetter on December 16, 2021, 14:14
These past two weeks have been great on Adobe with not only more video sales than the other sites (and that's for the whole month) but higher commissions on each and every sale.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: lima on December 16, 2021, 17:31
good work adobe!
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on December 16, 2021, 17:53
This has been a very good year for me at Adobe Stock - it has already beaten all the other years except 2018 and the year's not yet done. As others have noted, it is missing those very nice high-value SOD sales from Shutterstock, but the market is changing as the flood of free and cheap media continues.

I was very concerned about the all-you-can eat Pro subscriptions announced in April, but so far, nothing below 38 cents has shown up. Yea! I remain concerned that Adobe won't commit to any minimum royalty beyond subscriptions (i.e. Pro Edition and Creative Cloud Express) but let's hope that's circumspect lawyers, not an evil genius in its lair plotting our doom :)
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: una on December 16, 2021, 19:58
I'm not so active due the personal reasons, hopefully next year will be better. In spite of that, good work Adobe and big thank you Mat for being here for us.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Artist on December 17, 2021, 05:46
I am having the best year so far in Adobe
So happy to see any agency working so well. It not only surpassed SS far ahead but also crossed the combined earning from all the agencies.

Adobe deserves a huge applause.

That is awesome news @Artist! I'm very pleased to start my day reading this message. I'll be sure to share this with the team today.

Happy Holidays!

Mat Hayward

Thanks Mat and team you guys are very helpful and responsive all the time.
After hearing so much negative, Adobe gave us real hope.

This year was amazing with Adobe, hope that next year becomes more flourishing. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: FiledIMAGE on December 17, 2021, 05:56
In 5 years Shutterstock has halved earnings for me and Adobe increased 3 fold. Says everything
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: thijsdegraaf on December 17, 2021, 06:04
Compared to others, my earnings are not that much and I have not been busy with stock for long.
I only started offering photos to Adobe after Shutterstock's ten cents. That's why there are far fewer photos there. But also in relation to that number I earn less on Adobe. A few more photos and then I have sold 100 photos and I can also offer other photos (some Editorias) on Adobe. Hopefully then the earnings will be more comparable to Shutterstock. I do have the idea that Adobestock is the stock photo provider with the most future in it.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on December 17, 2021, 06:13
60% increase for me over last year. That'll do, pig. That'll do. Still about 25% less than my SS earnings, but that could all change next year if it keeps going the same way it has been.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: wds on December 17, 2021, 08:33
Yes, I have seen similar trends. Adobe is not far off from being the dollar leader.....and that's with Adobe yet to accept Editorial still content with people and no editorial video content!
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: tätarätä on December 17, 2021, 09:44
Adobe is doing well for me. Better than Shutterstock or istock.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Wilm on December 17, 2021, 10:25
December is not over yet, but the picture is already clear.
For me, Adobe is the only agency where my numbers have actually improved a little bit over 2020 and 2019 - for all other agencies, they've gotten worse - worst of all, shutterstock.
 
Right now at AS it's up $544 and up 481 downloads. At the end of the month, I'll know the exact total. But it won't add that much more, because the end of the year is always a disaster for me.

Also compared to 2019 it's 423 downloads and $432 more. Compared to 2018 and 2017, the differences are dwindling. In that respect, Adobe is actually very consistent for me - and that in difficult times and despite the fact that I uploaded very little.

I agree: Well done, Adobe!

Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Josephine on December 17, 2021, 12:56
Please dont forget, that Adobe is making lots of money by selling you their software....
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Dumc on December 17, 2021, 13:02
Not really, I got free Adobe Photoshop and other apps because that bonus program...
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Josephine on December 17, 2021, 13:06
you are right, but you cannot take it for granted that you get it every year....
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: HappyBunny on December 17, 2021, 13:16
I am so delighted when I get an email from Adobe and see that they at least appreciate the value of our images. Every time I open the SS app and see 10 cents I get worked up and angry. I don't want to waste money on buying backgrounds, props or food for food photography. It's just a waste of money. Paying more in than I am getting paid. I am always excited to open an email from Adobe. It's like a Christmas present every time. Thank you Adobe.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Uncle Pete on December 17, 2021, 15:06
Please dont forget, that Adobe is making lots of money by selling you their software....

No they aren't.  :)

I earned a free photo subscription last two years and will again this year.

Who else gives us anything at all? Our bonus from SS, for a years work, is being reset to level one.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Wilm on December 17, 2021, 16:50
Please dont forget, that Adobe is making lots of money by selling you their software....

No they aren't.  :)

I earned a free photo subscription last two years and will again this year.

Who else gives us anything at all? Our bonus from SS, for a years work, is being reset to level one.

True!
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: FiledIMAGE on December 17, 2021, 16:56
If Adobe make the best software and we spend thousands of hrs using it a year then surely its worth every cent?
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Artist on December 18, 2021, 22:59
Please dont forget, that Adobe is making lots of money by selling you their software....

I got the software for free in their bonus program?
What else do you need?

Yes, they do make money but it's business and their software are very popular in professional industry... do you want them to stop selling it?
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: designer093 on December 23, 2021, 16:54
Thanks Adobe! It was amazing year!
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: For Real on December 23, 2021, 17:45
Good sales and I tell my wife I need a new computer to run the fancy adobe software- so far she believes me every time  ;D
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: PhotoBomb on December 23, 2021, 18:44
Good sales and I tell my wife I need a new computer to run the fancy adobe software- so far she believes me every time  ;D

When I die I hope my wife doesn't sell my camera equipment for what I told her it cost  :P :o ;).
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: For Real on December 23, 2021, 18:54
Good sales and I tell my wife I need a new computer to run the fancy adobe software- so far she believes me every time  ;D

When I die I hope my wife doesn't sell my camera equipment for what I told her it cost  :P :o ;).

You didn't lie on the price-- you just forgot to add the zero at that end  8)
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: vectorsforall on December 24, 2021, 04:15
Amazing year for me with AS.
#1 in earnings so far, monthly balance paid in my own currency (EUR) so no Paypal commissions :-)
The acceptance rate is fast and almost 100%. Lots of extended licenses.
Thumbs up!

Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Just_to_inform_people2 on December 24, 2021, 15:10
Lots of extended licenses.
Interested here.
How many photos do you sell are extended as in one to how many with Adobe and how many where there in absolute numbers? I had three but had to enforce them eventually via the copyright department because the company that went commercial with my photo's bought them at the 33 cent price and it took a whole lot of effort on my side to get Adobe doing anything about it.
Yes I had sells with somewhat larger amount as the 66 or 99 cents and an additonal 3 or 4 dollars but Extended like 26 and above never except those three I mentioned.
I hear other people complaining also they never get EL licenses. So please inform us how that is for you and at what level?
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Firn on December 25, 2021, 02:15
I can't join in on the Adobe praise.
It's doing okay for me, but not great. December for example I only maid 50% on Adobe of what I made on SS and only 35% of what I made on iStock. I still blame it on their search algorithm that just doesn't seem to work in my favor, because when I look at my bestsellers - the same images that sell frequently on all agencies - Adobe is always the "odd one out" where these images don't really manage to generate any sales worth mentioning.  For me it seems to be much more difficult to establish any frequent sellers on Adobe. I have a handful of these, but they are all images I uploaded like 3 years ago and none of my seasonal images ever made it to the top on Adobe, which is the reason why Adobe earnings are so much lower than they are on the other big agencies for me, where seasonal images made up a big part of my earnings.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: vectorsforall on December 26, 2021, 04:48
Lots of extended licenses.
Interested here.
How many photos do you sell are extended as in one to how many with Adobe and how many where there in absolute numbers? I had three but had to enforce them eventually via the copyright department because the company that went commercial with my photo's bought them at the 33 cent price and it took a whole lot of effort on my side to get Adobe doing anything about it.
Yes I had sells with somewhat larger amount as the 66 or 99 cents and an additonal 3 or 4 dollars but Extended like 26 and above never except those three I mentioned.
I hear other people complaining also they never get EL licenses. So please inform us how that is for you and at what level?
I make most of my extended licenses on video sales, I have almost no extended L with my illustrations (probably one every 6 month...)
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: vlado85 on December 27, 2021, 02:54
As all other agencies fall, Adobe grows. If it wasn't for Adobe, I would probably stop doing stock photography after 7 years. I wish you all the best!
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: everest on December 27, 2021, 03:01
Adobe has also grown this year. I only contribute videos here. Nice company until now. They are a huge corporation that is also subject to the stock market flows so I know the can change course suddenly as Istock or Shutterstock did in the past. The have not yet, and so far happy with this company. I hope they keep respecting their contributors, at least more than SS and Istock/Getty do.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Level6 on December 27, 2021, 13:26
If only Adobe took editorial video and photos directly from contributors I'd basically go all in and upload everything I have. We need a 3rd viable site, Pond5 and SSTK take editorial but that's it, there's Newsflare but having Adobe would be good but maybe it would cost them too much in server space to host the additional content, not sure.

Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Contemporary Dave on January 08, 2022, 12:28
I have a very small port with Adobe, but DL's have noticeably increased over the last few months. At the moment, I can't submit Illustrative editorial images, because of their unusual 100 downloads rule, but once I reach that, I intend to dedicate much more time to Adobe.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: cascoly on January 08, 2022, 14:07
If only Adobe took editorial video and photos directly from contributors I'd basically go all in and upload everything I have. We need a 3rd viable site, Pond5 and SSTK take editorial but that's it,...

123RF & DT also take editorial & make submission simple - you can choose to have images automatically considered for editorial if they fail commercial standards.  great as you don't have to play guessing games about what they'll consider editorial
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: zeljkok on January 09, 2022, 00:01
In January so far first 8 days my Adobe port, 30% smaller than SS port, earned 7x more.  For calendar 2021 Adobe earned 2.5 times more compared to SS.  This is not coincidence.  The difference between Adobe and others is that Adobe has intellectual approach in how they structured this side of company business.  They also respect contributors;  Matt comes here and says what is going on, QA is fair and most DLs, for me at least, are 0.99 or more.  Compare that to 0.00001 DL's on Getty,  endless 10 cents SS Stream and now Alamy.   And I won't even go into senseless AI rejections of perfectly well composed and technically sound stills, which is right down disrespectful.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: ravens on January 11, 2022, 05:46
I'm happy with Adobe in 2021, and 2022 has started well, too. Thank you!
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: rushay on January 11, 2022, 06:34
Adobe also been growing year on year for me. I hope you guys keep the balance between profits and contributors.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: whosvegas on January 18, 2022, 08:33
Sales are not good the past half year
SS it is much beter, despite the $0,10 sales
Almost every day sales on SS (last year i even had a very big SOD).
My last AS sale is 6 days ago
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: thijsdegraaf on January 18, 2022, 10:12
Even taking into account that I have lesser photos on AS, SS is twice as good in January.
I'm still hoping it will turn around because I'm more sympathetic to the way AS treats us.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Reimar on January 18, 2022, 10:45
Sales at SS are 1/3 of those at AS this month, even with fewer images at AS.  Going back to level 1 doesn't explain this.  AS is even beating Alamy so far this month.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: cascoly on January 18, 2022, 14:07
In January so far first 8 days my Adobe port, 30% smaller than SS port, earned 7x more.  For calendar 2021 Adobe earned 2.5 times more compared to SS.  This is not coincidence.  The difference between Adobe and others is that Adobe has intellectual approach in how they structured this side of company business.  They also respect contributors;  ....

correlation is not causation - no evidence AS approach leads to greater sales - eg, my AS sales are consistently about 50% of SS, with same images uploaded, at same time, to both sites

ignoring fact that an 8 day window is hardly significant when sales are spotty at best
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: stocky on January 18, 2022, 14:21
Sales really good since the freebie promo. And it's great Mat communicates with us.  :)
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Zero Talent on January 18, 2022, 15:18
In January so far first 8 days my Adobe port, 30% smaller than SS port, earned 7x more.  For calendar 2021 Adobe earned 2.5 times more compared to SS.  This is not coincidence.  The difference between Adobe and others is that Adobe has intellectual approach in how they structured this side of company business.  They also respect contributors;  ....

correlation is not causation - no evidence AS approach leads to greater sales - eg, my AS sales are consistently about 50% of SS, with same images uploaded, at same time, to both sites

ignoring fact that an 8 day window is hardly significant when sales are spotty at best

Agree.
For the whole 2021, SS accounted for 38% of my revenue, while AS was the second best with 29%. This makes AS revenue about 76% of SS.
It's also fair to add the free Adobe apps, but it's only a small percentage of the total sales, and will not change the above ratio significantly.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: zeljkok on January 18, 2022, 15:33


correlation is not causation - no evidence AS approach leads to greater sales - eg, my AS sales are consistently about 50% of SS, with same images uploaded, at same time, to both sites

It is also related to content type;  certain image types sell better on some agencies.  AS is by margin best performer for me in 21 even without free content promotion. There is correlation between search engine promotion and regular uploads, as well as promotion of content that is regularly selling.  This is one of things I was referring to.

btw Top 3 photos on AS in term of downloads - is there any way to find lifetime $$ amount?  Insight interface allows only 12 months back
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Zero Talent on January 18, 2022, 15:42
btw Top 3 photos on AS in term of downloads - is there any way to find lifetime $$ amount?  Insight interface allows only 12 months back

Get Microstockr and you will have lifetime earnings for each photo (total, per agency, per year, etc)
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: wordplanet on January 18, 2022, 16:39
I only added 51 new images in 2021, since my efforts were on ventures other than stock photography, but my earnings went up 61%, and I earned the free Adobe software again.

Adobe has shown a commitment to contributors unmatched by any of the other stock sites.

Mat, thanks for all you do - Happy New Year and all the best to you and the rest of the team at Adobe.

Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: vlado85 on January 19, 2022, 02:54
Of all the services, only Adobe Stock is growing or stagnant and only he keeps me from doing this business. All other services, photos, videos, PSD templates, themes are falling drastically in sales and have long been unprofitable.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: zeljkok on January 19, 2022, 22:39

Get Microstockr and you will have lifetime earnings for each photo (total, per agency, per year, etc)

Thank you.  I am aware of microstockr, but was wondering if it was possible with AS native interface.  Their UI is quite minimalistic, which is inline with general UI company philosophy
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Zero Talent on January 19, 2022, 22:53

Get Microstockr and you will have lifetime earnings for each photo (total, per agency, per year, etc)

Thank you.  I am aware of microstockr, but was wondering if it was possible with AS native interface.  Their UI is quite minimalistic, which is inline with general UI company philosophy
Actually, I am expecting more from a software giant. A small mom & pop shop like Microstockr is outperforming them.
Even more, there is no AdobeStock app to check all this without waiting forever for the browser to load.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Dumc on February 11, 2022, 13:02
Adobe is on "figha"
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: TonyD on February 11, 2022, 13:29
If only Adobe took editorial video and photos directly from contributors I'd basically go all in and upload everything I have. We need a 3rd viable site, Pond5 and SSTK take editorial but that's it,...

123RF & DT also take editorial & make submission simple - you can choose to have images automatically considered for editorial if they fail commercial standards.  great as you don't have to play guessing games about what they'll consider editorial
Yes they are great because you dont waste your time and just submit it to editorial unlike SSTK who don't care about wasting your time.
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: stocky on February 11, 2022, 16:02
 :) Yeah Mat and the team actually care about us contributors. And sales are awesome  :)
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Wilm on February 11, 2022, 16:33
Adobe is on "figha"

What does „figha“ mean, Dumc?
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: zeljkok on February 11, 2022, 19:08
"figha" = high five?

AS is respectful to contributors.  Yes, UI is lacking, promotion of new content could probably be higher, yes this or that could be improved,  but overall AS is now leading by a mile compared to others.  I stopped uploading to SS, not so much because of 10 cents, but because of senseless AI rejections that just make your work feel devalued.  Most people just look for fairness and transparency, and AS gives that at least for now.  (And yes, sales are great, but these 2 things are interconnected).
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: Dumc on February 11, 2022, 19:44
Adobe is on "figha"

What does „figha“ mean, Dumc?

Fire
Title: Re: Well done Adobe
Post by: marthamarks on February 12, 2022, 00:04
Adobe is on "figha"

What does „figha“ mean, Dumc?

Fire

Thanks for that clarification. I was scratching my head over it too! :D