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Title: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Julied83 on May 14, 2019, 06:19
Sales have drop a lot for me since may 1th. I used to have 10 minimum sales a day and now I have three days with 0 sales ! The end of fotolia maybe ? Anyone experiencing the same drop ?
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: HalfFull on May 14, 2019, 07:12
Sales have drop a lot for me since may 1th. I used to have 10 minimum sales a day and now I have three days with 0 sales ! The end of fotolia maybe ? Anyone experiencing the same drop ?

Yes. Only one footage sale in the last 3 weeks and mainly low value sales. The first 4 months of the year have been good so hopefully it will improve in the second half of May... otherwise with its current form it will result in $200 less than May last year, $190 down from last month and $480 down on March this year. AS is normally way ahead of SS but for the 1st time in 3-4 years, they are comfortably ahead.

Could well be the closing of FT. As with DPC, when that closed there was a sizeable reduction in income then as a lot of the people did not transfer to AS. I'm hoping that won't happen here but so far, I'm not see any improvement in sales volume, just low sales value. When schemes/partnerships are closed and client options are reduced by AS, it seems to end up hurting us more as they still have the Software Subscriptions.

But, there is still half the month to go... so, things can change.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: HalfFull on May 14, 2019, 07:13
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Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: roidi on May 14, 2019, 08:37
Me, after closing "Fotolia", revenue dropped to almost zero :(
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: jonbull on May 14, 2019, 08:55
it's math...evry agency is doubling collection in less than a year...at this pace in 5 years will have  a billion file included hundred millions of video but as shown by financial data of ss in the last year the revenue is growing  practically zero...and royalty paid to contributor are practically any growth at all. in the long run this business is ended...any chance to earn enough to sustain work and family. unfortunately they destroyed everything  accepting everything together with instagram file free website and all and the future is completely black. i'm still going but not enough to justify the work done and resource invested. personally i'm moving all my quality production high end rf and rm agency. better sell few files at good price than hope to earn enough selling thousand of files every  month. 
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: HalfFull on May 14, 2019, 09:27
it's math...evry agency is doubling collection in less than a year...at this pace in 5 years will have  a billion file included hundred millions of video but as shown by financial data of ss in the last year the revenue is growing  practically zero...and royalty paid to contributor are practically any growth at all. in the long run this business is ended...any chance to earn enough to sustain work and family. unfortunately they destroyed everything  accepting everything together with instagram file free website and all and the future is completely black. i'm still going but not enough to justify the work done and resource invested. personally i'm moving all my quality production high end rf and rm agency. better sell few files at good price than hope to earn enough selling thousand of files every  month.

To be fair, the above doesn't represent my experience as a whole and certainly not that of AS. May has started off badly... that is all and hopefully things will turn around.

The last 6-12 months have shown increases in earnings against the previous year and overall, some of the best months earnings since 2013.

My only concern is they don't start squeezing all clients into minimal payment/subs packages as this really kills the smaller producers (less than 50k images). If you lose a $5 sale and they replace it with 10 $0.38 sales you gain in volume but over the course of a month, the $ return is going to be badly hit. I fear they're removing the number of options for clients to pay which will result in them going to other places that have a more flexible credit purchase options. I'm hoping I'm wrong on this, time will tell.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: KeremGo on May 14, 2019, 17:41
Sales have drop a lot for me since may 1th. I used to have 10 minimum sales a day and now I have three days with 0 sales ! The end of fotolia maybe ? Anyone experiencing the same drop ?

Couldn't find your Adobe Stock portfolio but I saw your work on Shutterstock which are pretty cool! I wish you a LOT of sales!  8)
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Julied83 on May 14, 2019, 18:24
Sales have drop a lot for me since may 1th. I used to have 10 minimum sales a day and now I have three days with 0 sales ! The end of fotolia maybe ? Anyone experiencing the same drop ?

Couldn't find your Adobe Stock portfolio but I saw your work on Shutterstock which are pretty cool! I wish you a LOT of sales!  8)

I don't know how to put the link of my AdobeStock account in here haha ! Thanks you a lot for the good words about my work :)
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: MRommens on May 15, 2019, 00:32
AS is my best selling agency
But this month i had only one sale (small port, 350+ images), two weeks ago

I hope more sales will come soon
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: jonbull on May 15, 2019, 04:12
https://www.dpreview.com/news/7744137117/adobe-informs-users-that-using-old-versions-of-cc-apps-could-lead-to-lawsuits-from-third-parties (https://www.dpreview.com/news/7744137117/adobe-informs-users-that-using-old-versions-of-cc-apps-could-lead-to-lawsuits-from-third-parties)


this is the scum company we are dealing with...please give us back fotolia!!
every company is desperate they need pay millions to greedy manager s that's why they fuck all customer or contributor...is a money jungle out there o the only way to survive is be like them.thse who still photos and resell and those who use fake software have all my sympathy.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: pictureman75 on May 15, 2019, 04:59
YESSSS!!!

GIVE US BACK FOTOLIA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

or better: Don't close the best selling system in microstock market!

... and go to hell with mass uploading, price dumping and new achievements like AS (which is a not more than a downgraded follower-agency of fotolia!), etc.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Stockmaan on May 15, 2019, 07:37
This days I sell more on Depositphotos. I only have about 50% images on Deposit compare to Adobe. I am emerald on Adobe and green on Deposit :) Bad!
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Groucho on May 15, 2019, 07:47
I  am experiencing the opposite of what other contributors report. My sales has double since begining of May  :) :) :)
Maybe is it because I was a Adobe contributor and never was a Fotolia direct contributor.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: pictureman75 on May 15, 2019, 07:56
It's always the same ... posts of success are coming only from Newbies ... they don't know anything from former times and enjoying only the number of downloads and not the RPDs ... the real interesting numbers!
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: qunamax on May 15, 2019, 08:10
A bit off topic, I noticed that Fotolia login doesn't work anymore in Microstockr android app and that there's no Adobe option.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: KeremGo on May 15, 2019, 09:36
I  am experiencing the opposite of what other contributors report. My sales has double since begining of May  :) :) :)
Maybe is it because I was a Adobe contributor and never was a Fotolia direct contributor.

I'm new on Adobe Stock too... Started few months ago. Still think sales are very low to none there... Sad.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: MRommens on May 21, 2019, 12:48
Three weeks no sales, this is unusual for me.
Is there something happend?

Shutterstock is also slow for me.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on May 21, 2019, 12:49
Three weeks no sales, this is unusual for me.
Is there something happend?

Shutterstock is also slow for me.

Yup.  I used to make $100+ a day on SS.  Yesterday I made $16.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: ShadySue on May 21, 2019, 13:36
Three weeks no sales, this is unusual for me.
Is there something happend?

Shutterstock is also slow for me.

Yup.  I used to make $100+ a day on SS.  Yesterday I made $16.

Ah, see, the thing is, Sean: you need more diversity.  ::) ??? ::) :o
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on May 21, 2019, 13:43
Or rum.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on May 21, 2019, 14:11
Or rum.

Diverse rum perhaps? Bacardi, Captain Morgan and Demerera Dark?

This one might have stock contributors in mind:

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ea9520_b1b3eb72f5a44b2fbe011fcf449a0568~mv2_d_5381_3269_s_4_2.jpg/v1/fill/w_980,h_595,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/ea9520_b1b3eb72f5a44b2fbe011fcf449a0568~mv2_d_5381_3269_s_4_2.jpg)
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Stockmaan on May 21, 2019, 14:32
Strange, because my weekly position lost 500 places in just one day. So other contributors sell ok this days.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: HalfFull on May 21, 2019, 16:30
After a slow start to the month things have picked up again. Not to March standards but reasonable if it continues as it is... I can here Mat saying..."Told ya so"  ::)
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: marthamarks on May 21, 2019, 16:30
Or rum.

I vote for rum. Or if not that, at least a good, strong bourbon.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on May 21, 2019, 17:05
After $11 today, I could use the rum.  #marketcrash
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: 08stock08 on May 24, 2019, 03:08
Strange but true. Adobe has stopped not sure why. Selling nothing for last few days there. Strangely, I got sale from DP, RF and several others including SS too consistently. On adobe my last sale was on 5/20/2019. Nothing after that.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: wds on May 24, 2019, 07:55
Might be because we are approaching Memorial Day in US. I have noticed all sales slower recently.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Tenebroso on May 24, 2019, 11:29
There is a possibility that sales in Adobe, either through Fotolia. And now, those images must find their place in the new agency.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Dodie on May 27, 2019, 08:05
Not a single sale after May 24. Miserable month at Adobe. They killed FT but not just the brand but the entire agency.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: MRommens on May 27, 2019, 08:46
Last week, i had two sales :)
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: mindstorm on May 27, 2019, 13:01
May for Adobe was slow for me, but not zero.  Then suddenly today (Memorial Day) I got 11 sales through Adobe.  I typically only get one or two a day from that agency.

All 11 of these were scenes from Ecuador (unusual concentration) and all for 33 cents (unusually low payout per sale).  My guess is that someone is on a subscription, had some credits left over, and used them up collecting possible images for an article or blog or whatever.  Only a guess though...
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: jonbull on May 28, 2019, 06:36
what about SHUTTERSUBS?
where are od single and enhanced? migrated to another planet?
ahaha....connect by getty is the last nail own the coffin...i told in another thread..connect actually is killing any other company giving for free any content used for web.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: lazy_ella on June 03, 2019, 17:04
I actually just had my third extended license sale for a whopping 65 € within three days (among some smaller ones). This never happened before - I normally see one of these every 6 months, if that.

I'm now getting paranoid that Adobe is having another glitch and they're going to deduct the money right back off again and leave me with maybe 0,66 € per sale. Has anyone else sold a suspicious number of extended licenses in the past few days?
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: 08stock08 on June 03, 2019, 23:00
No, the dry season continues. Something weird this time. No sale since 20th May.  With Fotolia, we could see the views to ascertain that something is happening.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Stockmaan on June 04, 2019, 08:03
Sad, no more my first agency. Adobe is going down more than other agencies. Weird because on Adobe I upload all my stock material. This fluctuations last too long :/
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: HalfFull on June 04, 2019, 12:17
May finished very strongly, well up on previous year/month. June started off steady, more of the same would be nice  ;D
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: 08stock08 on June 04, 2019, 12:55
May finished very strongly, well up on previous year/month. June started off steady, more of the same would be nice  ;D

You seem to defy the common trends and swim against the tide. Not sure whether you are refuting the realities or inventing something unique. anyways, congratulations !!!!
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Stockmaan on June 04, 2019, 13:52
my daily comparison of sales for 2018 and 2019 (from 1 January to 4 June). Orange yellow is year 2018 and green is 2019.
About 9k files. Active uploader.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Asthebelltolls on June 04, 2019, 18:01
Who knows "what's wrong with May sales"? I still haven't received them. Still stuck with April stats. :o
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: cathyslife on June 04, 2019, 19:54
my daily comparison of sales for 2018 and 2019 (from 1 January to 4 June). Orange yellow is year 2018 and green is 2019.
About 9k files. Active uploader.


Wow, that’s depressing. You took a big hit this year.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Stockmaan on June 05, 2019, 06:03
my daily comparison of sales for 2018 and 2019 (from 1 January to 4 June). Orange yellow is year 2018 and green is 2019.
About 9k files. Active uploader.


Wow, that’s depressing. You took a big hit this year.

Yes, it is not even funny anymore. Just thinking what to do next. Diversity of uploaded images and videos, more and more uploads does not help me.
Best of luck to all!
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: 08stock08 on June 05, 2019, 13:45
Finally today on 15th day since my last sale, I got a sale. Adobe can show us the views  data as fotolia used to show. It enables us to see that things are moving.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Stockmaan on June 06, 2019, 13:20
Finally today on 15th day since my last sale, I got a sale. Adobe can show us the views  data as fotolia used to show. It enables us to see that things are moving.

How big is your portfolio, how many sales you have  previous year compared to this year?
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: jonbull on June 06, 2019, 13:31
and what about ss? last two days appalling...today 5 sales yesterday 8.. they changed algorithm again? i'm down like 80 per cent in the last two days.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Stockmaan on June 06, 2019, 14:39
and what about ss? last two days appalling...today 5 sales yesterday 8.. they changed algorithm again? i'm down like 80 per cent in the last two days.

On SS I noticed some drop in video sales in May 2019 compared to May 2018. Sales there are ok!

Adobe is almost DEAD here. I was always good ranked at Adobe. Last year and previously years my selling was great! Now nothing more. I got only few views after weeks I uploaded new stuff. There must be something. No reasen for such a drop for 6 months in row now! Emerald, yes, but few sales a day?! Last year I was gold and I have 30-40 sales at day. Now, as emerald??!, I only make 10 sales a day if I have good day (subs mostly), maybe some day o have few more. This game is obviously over.

Thank you for amazing algorithms Adobe! Appreciated
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: 08stock08 on June 07, 2019, 11:31
Finally today on 15th day since my last sale, I got a sale. Adobe can show us the views  data as fotolia used to show. It enables us to see that things are moving.

How big is your portfolio, how many sales you have  previous year compared to this year?

2500+ images. This year was good untill May.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: Jens G on June 13, 2019, 09:17
My may sales were within the normal for me, but june is very bad so far.

I'm only at about 1/4 of what I usually have this time of the month, and since I have only dropped 50 places on the rank, I guess I'm not the only one with  poor sales.
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: angelawaye on June 15, 2019, 17:00
Adobe is going so bad for me. How is 123 doing better?
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: PaceyH on June 18, 2019, 14:12
Sales have drop a lot for me since may 1th. I used to have 10 minimum sales a day and now I have three days with 0 sales ! The end of fotolia maybe ? Anyone experiencing the same drop ?

Couldn't find your Adobe Stock portfolio but I saw your work on Shutterstock which are pretty cool! I wish you a LOT of sales!  8)

Just happened to check out your portfolio as well, incredible stuff!
Title: Re: What's wrong with adobe may sales ?
Post by: 08stock08 on June 18, 2019, 22:55
This week, numbers have improved and seeing the action again. It is moving well now.