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« Reply #450 on: April 26, 2024, 15:20 »
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compared to april 23 i am up by 51%, so I should probably not complain. but compared to march 24 I am down by 57%...

and...it is far from enough money, so...I will complain ;)

summer is always very slow for me.

what is good is that many of the illustrations that I uploaded last year, that never got a single sale, are slowly beginning to sell. I simply have no "footsteps" in the algos for illustration.

for now illustrations are perhaps 5% of my sales, although it is over 20% of my port. longterm I hope it will increase and I will learn what I can produce that customers like to buy.

and what about March 2023?70% more? ;)

Cobalt,If I was already earning as much as you,I would probably have a party every day! :D


« Reply #451 on: April 26, 2024, 15:48 »
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Thanks @Cobalt & @InjusticeForAll

It's good to know that you're not alone in the downward trend - of course it would be nicer if things were looking up for everyone :)

I had already flirted a little with the 2,000 position, but now it's heading strongly towards 4,000 ^^

« Reply #452 on: April 26, 2024, 17:41 »
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misery loves company and all that ;)

on the german istock board we used to have a dedicated thread where we could go and complain about low sales. it was great fun.

but there are people moving up now, and it is important to learn what kind of content is in demand now.

lots of sport themes around the olympics, lots of family and people doing summer things, lots of ai related themes etc...

next year I will be better prepared.

« Reply #453 on: April 26, 2024, 18:03 »
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misery loves company and all that ;)
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lots of sport themes around the olympics, lots of family and people doing summer things, lots of ai related themes etc...

I have to admit that after my account block in October '23 I didn't dare to upload pictures on the subject of the Olympics - the Olympics is a subject with many legal problems and I can't afford another account block :-)

This week I have 109 downloads on Friday evening, position 3,450.

« Reply #454 on: April 26, 2024, 22:31 »
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you don't do olympics with olympic rings or anything copyright related

you do people celebrating with gold medals, people doing sports, large stadions around the major olympic summer sports

general sports competition stuff and obviously never any copyright danger keywords

winner loser scenarios, goals, achievement, hard work success can also be used in many other themes outside of sparts as well

same like for content that supports the superbowl time, world football competitions, the oscars etc...there is also something you can do that is free of copyright but works for these events

« Reply #455 on: April 27, 2024, 05:36 »
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Yes,exactly,a good idea is to try to represent something protected by IP in a generic way,so that it doesn't violate copyright.

apart from someone who genuinely makes a mistake,without meaning to,many believe they are smart,they first go through the review and then change the title and maybe keywords,adding brand names,and various IP,trying to increase sales this way.

I often find generic photos on Adobe Stock with brand names and events protected by copyright,these images would never have passed review with that type of indexing,and it is clear that they modify them after the review.

this is a very dangerous game,because sooner or later Adobe obviously finds these contents indexed irregularly and then blocks begin.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2024, 06:11 by Injustice for all »

« Reply #456 on: April 27, 2024, 06:07 »
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you don't do olympics with olympic rings or anything copyright related
The subject of the Olympics has a special aftertaste for me... A long time ago, when I was still working as a game developer, I once received a letter from the Olympic Association with a large number in it and a cease and desist order - since then the subject has been taboo for me :-)

And yes, of course I also have sports pictures without naming brands and without logos.

It always surprises me when you enter Olympic in the search, how many images are listed there - a real powder keg.
You also see a lot of images with three stripes sportswear and Nike logos.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #457 on: April 27, 2024, 11:33 »
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Is weekly rank only Downloads?

Does anyone know for sure, for a fact, what the truth is, and how Weekly Rank - which is actually Position, is calculated?

Was that a really tough question and no one really knows?

I was working on, maybe it changes at Midnight, but the DLs number changes as they occur? So considering that and some from the past, maybe the variable is WHEN is it calculated as well?

« Reply #458 on: April 27, 2024, 16:01 »
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the downloads change regularly with growing sales, the weekly rank resets once a day.

wednesday is also a public holiday in many countries, so many people are having a long weekend or holiday.

hope people get bck to work soon.

pos 5620, i am officially depressed lol!


eta

I am trying to upload a lot more people content. but because i have no "footsteps in the algos" of the people market, it will probably take a year before they really start to sell and customers start bookmarking me as a resource.

also adding more food, that usually does better with me than people.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2024, 04:03 by cobalt »

« Reply #459 on: April 28, 2024, 05:23 »
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@Pete,the key factor is most likely "when" it is calculated,and in my opinion the number of sales is the rank,but the weekly ranking changes a lot,obviously I think that what really matters is the complete ranking,that for me continues to go better,let's say I recover 100 positions every week in the complete ranking.

@Cobalt I see that you are going down quite a bit  :( , but i think because for the sales system,you have already reached your goal this month,as you have already earned 50% more than April 2023,and is giving more space to others,because in my opinion,Adobe's sales system must give space to everyone,and over time it allows you to increase sales,at least this is my experience.

next month you will go back up again! :)

I don't know about uploading to other agencies,yesterday I was comparing my sales on SS in April with the April sales of another contributor who has a much more varied portfolio than mine,as he is lucky enough to travel a lot and have more money to invest than me in general,but despite this I earned more than him on SS,even though I don't have big sales this month on SS.

in my opinion,as I have already said,uploading to other agencies is no longer of much use,it only serves to increase the race to the bottom.

as far as I'm concerned,working only on Adobe brings me many advantages,I have the opportunity to take care of my portfolio in a better way in many aspects.

I believe that someone want to base the portfolio with AI,need to produce in very large quantities,which is why I prefer to focus on real and hybrid content,because producing large quantities isn't really my style.

However,if anyone is interested in my opinion,I don't think that AI content can have a long life,of course it can be sold,but it is too easy to replicate and in general there is too much competition,working only with AI can result in a huge waste of time in the long term.


« Reply #460 on: April 28, 2024, 17:49 »
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I domt think it makes a big difference because ai can also copy normal photos easily.

Only editorial would be safe from ai.

But the majority of new producvers just make copies of copies of existing content, just like they do with normal photos.

However with ai, the content is now at least well lit and has a professional look.

You still need to build a port and find your niche.

After the gold rush many ai producers will move on to the next thing.

« Reply #461 on: April 28, 2024, 18:09 »
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I domt think it makes a big difference because ai can also copy normal photos easily.

Only editorial would be safe from ai.

But the majority of new producvers just make copies of copies of existing content, just like they do with normal photos.

However with ai, the content is now at least well lit and has a professional look.

You still need to build a port and find your niche.

After the gold rush many ai producers will move on to the next thing.

I don't agree with this  :)

there is a lot of content that AI simply can't do,not just editorial,just as there is content that only AI can do,that's why it's important to try to do everything,if possible.

I definitely still have a lot of work to do,but more than anything it's also a question of time.

I am quite certain that even if I continue to upload only 20 contents per month I will continue to earn more,because I already have thousands of contents and above all it is a question of time.

but obviously I don't want to do this experiment because the quantity certainly has its weight.

better to always continue to give the best.

to change the world you have to be a dreamer! :)

« Reply #462 on: April 28, 2024, 20:50 »
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Im also sliding downwards 4270
« Last Edit: April 28, 2024, 21:14 by Mifornia »

« Reply #463 on: April 29, 2024, 05:12 »
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Exactly same trend for me I was around position 3000 and in a couple of week I'm down to 4690

About how position is calculated, my opinion is that it counts last seven days and is updated continuously day by day, so if you have a great day you go up even if the day after should be very poor. It's not calculated on fixed week monday/sunday (for example) but it's from today plus six days back downloads
« Last Edit: April 29, 2024, 05:58 by derby »

« Reply #464 on: April 29, 2024, 09:03 »
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Well, we might be going down, but Adobe itself is still selling well. Otherwise our ranking would go up even if our sales are slowing down.

So we simply don't have the right content for what buyers are looking for right now.

I did upload quite a bit of summer content, but I think it arrived too late and just like with people I have no footsteps in the summer algos.

Next year will be better.

« Reply #465 on: April 29, 2024, 10:47 »
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Well, we might be going down, but Adobe itself is still selling well. Otherwise our ranking would go up even if our sales are slowing down.

So we simply don't have the right content for what buyers are looking for right now.

I did upload quite a bit of summer content, but I think it arrived too late and just like with people I have no footsteps in the summer algos.

Next year will be better.
I do have spring and summer seasonal content, so I cant use that excuse. This Monday is even worse, I think if portal is on the downward, then its shown less. Whats interesting is that my images that are selling usually well, stopped selling but images that never sold are now selling, but are one hit wonders.

I wonder if algorithms changed?

PS: for example I have older traditional photograph that Ive made to png that use to  sell every day, its timeless, not seasonal - now it stopped. My seasonal best seller also stopped

Its strange that from this thread we are all going downwards. Did I miss anyone? Anyone is selling well?
« Last Edit: April 29, 2024, 10:50 by Mifornia »

« Reply #466 on: April 29, 2024, 10:56 »
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As for Olympics, Im friends with a multiple times Olympian and medalist 🙂 Very humble, nice and now on anxiety meds man. Its mind blowing how nervous he was before his starts. He holds one of the Worlds Records.

« Reply #467 on: April 29, 2024, 10:58 »
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There is someone here who,despite being an active contributor,that upload at least 30-40 content per month on average,did earn less than April 2023?

I earned already 50% more than in April 2023,so the ranking doesn't matter,for the moment everything is fine! :)

we are all in the hands of the sales system.

fortunately Adobe's sales system is the best among all agencies,because it allows everyone to grow and earn more over time,unless you are a terrible contributor who only has photos of stones indexed in a generic way,well,in this case I don't think the sales system can help you much! :D

« Reply #468 on: April 29, 2024, 12:43 »
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you don't do olympics with olympic rings or anything copyright related
...

same like for content that supports the superbowl time, world football competitions, the oscars etc...there is also something you can do that is free of copyright but works for these events

at one point the Olympic committee sued the Olympic national Park here in Washington  (capital Olympia) for trademark violation. my company name CAScadeOLYmpics (2 mtn rages seen from seattle)has been safe so far

« Reply #469 on: April 29, 2024, 15:30 »
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Well, we might be going down, but Adobe itself is still selling well. Otherwise our ranking would go up even if our sales are slowing down.

So we simply don't have the right content for what buyers are looking for right now.

I did upload quite a bit of summer content, but I think it arrived too late and just like with people I have no footsteps in the summer algos.

Next year will be better.
I do have spring and summer seasonal content, so I cant use that excuse. This Monday is even worse, I think if portal is on the downward, then its shown less. Whats interesting is that my images that are selling usually well, stopped selling but images that never sold are now selling, but are one hit wonders.

I wonder if algorithms changed?

PS: for example I have older traditional photograph that Ive made to png that use to  sell every day, its timeless, not seasonal - now it stopped. My seasonal best seller also stopped

Its strange that from this thread we are all going downwards. Did I miss anyone? Anyone is selling well?

There seems to be a shake up in the algos, all my test searches look different. But I still have content in roughly the same positions, but it is different content, often newer.

It does not seem to affect sales, but perhaps some files will get some fresh love.

This is the May first week with public holidays in many countries. Many people taking the whole week off.

Next week will be interesting.

Actually a good time for Adobe to reset algos, it will creep in gradually.

eta

over all agencies compared to April 23 I am up by 60%, but down 54% compared to March 24.

But the overall trend is encouraging, so we will see.

Illustrations are still 5-10% of my total sales, even though now nearly half my uploads are illustrations. I hope it will pay off next year.

Must do more video and normal photos...
« Last Edit: April 29, 2024, 15:33 by cobalt »

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #470 on: April 30, 2024, 10:30 »
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Exactly same trend for me I was around position 3000 and in a couple of week I'm down to 4690

About how position is calculated, my opinion is that it counts last seven days and is updated continuously day by day, so if you have a great day you go up even if the day after should be very poor. It's not calculated on fixed week monday/sunday (for example) but it's from today plus six days back downloads

Odd, my weekly position, resets on Sunday every week.

bpawesome

  • 3D artist & Full Stack Developer

« Reply #471 on: April 30, 2024, 10:51 »
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Weekly and Lifetime positions are simply cached and are updated every hour

« Reply #472 on: May 01, 2024, 05:38 »
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In my case, even though I kept uploading new images (mostly AI) the rank went down dramatically. What's more interesting is that new images (uploaded more than two months ago) are not selling at all.
I see this as Adobe going on a downward trend.

 :-\

« Reply #473 on: May 01, 2024, 07:15 »
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my rank improved a little bit to 5380

also selling some files that never had a sales

my test searches find my images in decent positions, but it is often different content from the same genre. looks like they are mixing things up a bit, which is probably a good thing.

« Reply #474 on: May 01, 2024, 09:10 »
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I just checked my position stats for the last 4 weeks:
- lost 1.160 places in the last 22 days since 10. April (down to 4.100 from 2.940)
- lost 870 places in the last 8 days since 23. April (down to 4.100 from 3.230)

And the account is anything but inactive - since January 01, 2024 I have 4,130 accepted files, of which about 15% are photos, 5% videos, 80% AI images (acceptance rate in April was 92.7%)

But at the moment it's only going in one direction and it's pointing massively downwards - no idea what's going on at AdobeStock, it's pretty bad for me anyway.

Actually it feels a little like this ;-)
-> https://stock.adobe.com/de/images/down-the-drain-created-with-generative-ai-technology/620715012
« Last Edit: May 01, 2024, 11:23 by JustAnImage »


 

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