Author Topic: What's your weekly ranking and how many images? (Read 78885 times)

HalfFull · « **Reply #925 on:** September 23, 2024, 05:40 »

Cheers

I mainly sell stills <18k images. I've been submitting to Adobe for about 10 years and elsewhere for 14yrs. Around 108k dls from 2020

cobalt · « **Reply #926 on:** September 23, 2024, 06:52 »

Thank you so much for sharing your stats. It is really inspiring to see that this is possible for a single artist.

My rank also moves a lot with the seasons. I hope I start to see a real upswing soon, but I remember that last year I was also desperate in September and thought all my content is wrong.

pos 3140, files 6150

synthetick · « **Reply #927 on:** September 23, 2024, 07:08 »

Interesting that this is the thread that simply will not die despite the stats being pretty meaningless because they are only based on downloads not earnings. I have started out the week with 4 video DL’s earning $33.29 and 1 image DL for $0.34 and my weekly rank is 13,750th.

cobalt · « **Reply #928 on:** September 23, 2024, 07:17 »

a good or rising volume of sales indicates that you are doing well at understanding customers.

for a better comparison it would be useful to separate video and image stats, I agree.

but there are also plenty of people with very large video ports and very few downloads. it is just like with images, some people do market research and try to understand the customer and others just upload their personal hobby projects without paying attention to commercial usability.

so for me someone with a great rank from mostly images is an inspiration, because I always thought this was only possible for teams.

or people with 100k plus ports.

I am sure if his focus was mainly video, he would be equally successful, even if the total rank would not show it, because it does not filter videos out.

eta

There are plenty of people who think I am totally crazy for wanting to revive my stock business. So i am grateful for any real information what is possible.

If the rest of the year goes well, I will probably reach 10-13k this year.

Next year will be really interesting, I doubt I can double my income again.

But will it grow by 20%...or 80%...or will it already stagnate?

My current projection is that by mid/end 2027 I will have a stable business again, especially if I can also increase sales on other agencies and especially video.

We will see.

pires128 · « **Reply #929 on:** September 23, 2024, 08:29 »

hope a good sales week for we all

for me this week i will focus working on 2025 new years concepts, hope i'm not late for this.

cobalt · « **Reply #930 on:** September 23, 2024, 08:55 »

The question is when will it be accepted?

I have some new year concepts in the queue, but this morning I uploaded my first summer content for 2025 and otherwise my focus now is mostly spring.

Still also uploading winter and holiday season, but I think most of it will arrive too late. Not creating any new winter content either, but I have such a huge backlog of files, I can probably cover 3 holiday seasons...

pires128 · « **Reply #931 on:** September 23, 2024, 09:02 »

Quote from: cobalt on September 23, 2024, 08:55

The question is when will it be accepted?

I have some new year concepts in the queue, but this morning I uploaded my first summer content for 2025 and otherwise my focus now is mostly spring.

Still also uploading winter and holiday season, but I think most of it will arrive too late. Not creating any new winter content either, but I have such a huge backlog of files, I can probably cover 3 holiday seasons...

you're right! with the current review time, i think i should upload 2026 concepts

lets goooooo

cobalt · « **Reply #932 on:** September 23, 2024, 09:11 »

I uploaded one 2026 file, just in case...

I have never had new year files with actual year date, curious to see if it is actually worth it.

cobalt · « **Reply #933 on:** September 23, 2024, 14:21 »

Found a copy cat who tried to recreate my image with a German word. Except the word came out wrong

https://stock.adobe.com/de/images/empty-beach-with-the-word-urlaub-written-in-the-sand-under-blue-sky/960915438?prev_url=detail

here is my original

https://stock.adobe.com/de/images/beautiful-beach-with-the-german-word-for-vacation-urlaub/842886276?prev_url=detail

there is quite a lot in that port that was "inspired" by my files.

It is that first time I see that so clearly.

The other images are probably inspired from other producers.

Obviously I have no rights to a German word in the sand, but it is an interesting duplicate case.

I will be watching this port.

eta

here is a file where they used the copyrighted term "montessori" in a description

https://stock.adobe.com/de/images/bright-and-cozy-scandinavian-kindergarten-room-with-montessori-wooden-toys-and-educational-materials/938571353?prev_url=detail

they probably stole the title from a different image

Wilm · « **Reply #934 on:** September 23, 2024, 15:53 »

Quote from: cobalt on September 23, 2024, 14:21

Found a copy cat who tried to recreate my image with a German word. Except the word came out wrong

https://stock.adobe.com/de/images/empty-beach-with-the-word-urlaub-written-in-the-sand-under-blue-sky/960915438?prev_url=detail

here is my original

https://stock.adobe.com/de/images/beautiful-beach-with-the-german-word-for-vacation-urlaub/842886276?prev_url=detail

there is quite a lot in that port that was "inspired" by my files.

It is that first time I see that so clearly.

The other images are probably inspired from other producers.

Obviously I have no rights to a German word in the sand, but it is an interesting duplicate case.

I will be watching this port.

In the AI copy I read "Urlslaub" or "Urislaub". I don't see much danger of anyone buying the copy.

blvdone · « **Reply #935 on:** September 23, 2024, 16:20 »

Quote from: cobalt on September 23, 2024, 14:21

Found a copy cat who tried to recreate my image with a German word. Except the word came out wrong

https://stock.adobe.com/de/images/empty-beach-with-the-word-urlaub-written-in-the-sand-under-blue-sky/960915438?prev_url=detail

here is my original

https://stock.adobe.com/de/images/beautiful-beach-with-the-german-word-for-vacation-urlaub/842886276?prev_url=detail

there is quite a lot in that port that was "inspired" by my files.

It is that first time I see that so clearly.

The other images are probably inspired from other producers.

Obviously I have no rights to a German word in the sand, but it is an interesting duplicate case.

I will be watching this port.

Is it selling well?

cobalt · « **Reply #936 on:** September 23, 2024, 18:32 »

the original file had 2 sales and the copy won‘t make me lose anything.

but they copied quite a lot of individual files, people, xmas, halloween, easter. I think they asked for an image description because sometimes my titles were too short. but it is uncanny to see so many files affected.

thankfully my port has so much experimental stuff, that it is not easy to see what will actually sell.

but it is a weird feeling.

blvdone · « **Reply #937 on:** September 23, 2024, 19:37 »

Quote from: cobalt on September 23, 2024, 18:32

the original file had 2 sales and the copy won‘t make me lose anything.

but they copied quite a lot of individual files, people, xmas, halloween, easter. I think they asked for an image description because sometimes my titles were too short. but it is uncanny to see so many files affected.

thankfully my port has so much experimental stuff, that it is not easy to see what will actually sell.

but it is a weird feeling.

There are thousands of photos with word(s) on beach. So, I wouldn't think of it as somebody stealing an idea. There are thousands of images/videos with the same concepts out there. So, it's up to which image/video buyers like. Market saturation just is a part of this business unfortunately as more and more people create and upload stock images and videos.

https://stock.adobe.com/search/images?filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aphoto%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aimage%5D=1&k=beach+word+sand&order=relevance&price%5B%24%5D=1&safe_search=1&limit=100&search_type=usertyped&search_page=1&acp=&aco=beach+word+sand&get_facets=1

cobalt · « **Reply #938 on:** September 23, 2024, 20:08 »

why would anyone upload an image with a word in german if you have no germany centric port?

the thing with ai is they do manage to copy quite specifically the vibe of many of my images. it is just because they cannot see what actually sells that the damage is not greater.

i have some other bestsellers with copies and i think it is already affecting their sales.

it might be that seasonal images now only have one really successful season.

that would do great damage longterm.

we will see.

cobalt · « **Reply #939 on:** September 24, 2024, 02:45 »

Quote from: blvdone on September 23, 2024, 19:37

Quote from: cobalt on September 23, 2024, 18:32
the original file had 2 sales and the copy won‘t make me lose anything.

but they copied quite a lot of individual files, people, xmas, halloween, easter. I think they asked for an image description because sometimes my titles were too short. but it is uncanny to see so many files affected.

thankfully my port has so much experimental stuff, that it is not easy to see what will actually sell.

but it is a weird feeling.

There are thousands of photos with word(s) on beach. So, I wouldn't think of it as somebody stealing an idea. There are thousands of images/videos with the same concepts out there. So, it's up to which image/video buyers like. Market saturation just is a part of this business unfortunately as more and more people create and upload stock images and videos.

https://stock.adobe.com/search/images?filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aphoto%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aimage%5D=1&k=beach+word+sand&order=relevance&price%5B%24%5D=1&safe_search=1&limit=100&search_type=usertyped&search_page=1&acp=&aco=beach+word+sand&get_facets=1

there are a lot more specific examples in that port that were clearly directly inspired by my files.

it is the largest copy cat volume of my port so far.

But because Adobe promotes fresh content or files with the first sale on the front pages it is thankfully not so easy to see what sells.

the german word thing is just so obvious because the copied word is wrong, so obviously it was not a language native that created the file.

pires128 · « **Reply #940 on:** September 24, 2024, 04:45 »

people want to make money in a creative market, but they are no creative enough to create their own ideas/design so they copy. for these people is just a matter of time to quit/get banned. (also funny to see in the facebook groups, tons of people daily crying bcuz they got banned).

we have control over 90% of the things we do daily
and 10% are not on our control.

lets focus on working on great stuff and growing our ports

remember that if someone if copying you, he is always one or two steps behind

cobalt · « **Reply #941 on:** September 24, 2024, 04:54 »

"to be copied is the sincerest form of flattery"...

Unfortunately there are many very successful copy cat portfolios. This also happens with photos, entire high quality photo teams that "save time" of doing their own research and identifying customer groups, by just scraping bestsellers. And often their production quality is even better than the original file.

I know several cases where absolutely top selling files got killed after it was copied. Sadly in many cases the producer had made the mistake of showing his favorite file in a stock group - look my parrot eating carrots sells every week - and gone where the sales.

I agree that this port is going nowhere, because it is obvious that the real media talent is missing.

The dangerous pros are the ones that are made by pro media people.

I hope all agencies start using ai to identify copycat ports and observing them.

It is very frustrating and financially abusive for the real creators with ideas.

We will see.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #942 on:** September 24, 2024, 06:00 »

Lately I've been creating hybrids that are having some success,and I immediately noticed that the copycats have arrived, they're trying but they can't because they can't reproduce the same content with just a prompt.

hahaha!

it's really funny how they try to copy me but they can't.

to create the AI content I'm making requires experience and you have to dedicate time to it,you can't do it just with a prompt...forget it!

pires128 · « **Reply #943 on:** September 24, 2024, 07:32 »

yes, its like a pro photographer using a 100$ camera and a newbie using 5000$ gear. you who is going to make the best result, the newbie cant recreate the same result the pro guys had.

give AI in the hands of someone doing stock for 10 years, and the same tool to these guys that started now.

lets use the best thing we have.

time and experience.

blvdone · « **Reply #944 on:** September 24, 2024, 07:48 »

I'm not concerned about so called copycats. It's a free competition out there. If somebody is just busy copying somebody else's stuff, they probably aren't doing good and eventually be exhausted, disappointed and go away. It's a waste of time "copying" stuff that are already saturated.

cobalt · « **Reply #945 on:** September 24, 2024, 09:09 »

like I said the "normal" copying doesn't worry me. I also copy when I build up a new field and add my own first red heart on white, green grass background etc...

It is the pro producers that copy that are truly dangerous.

you still have the advantage of timing, how to combine different series and make them work off each other, but bestsellers have a drastic impact on sales.

if they get killed by copy cats, like what mifornia experienced, that is a real drop in income.

a file that makes over 1000 sales in one season, should have a long shelf life, unless it is related to a timed event like the pandemic.

I am hoping that keeping my titles extremly short and generic "pretty easter egg with copy space" will at least make those looking for prompt titles look elsewhere.

but copycats can just take a screenshot of the image and have ai generate something near identical.

the best protection is a very large portfolio.

then it becomes really difficult to see which files is worth copying.

so..back to uploading.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #946 on:** September 24, 2024, 10:13 »

in general it is as you say,with img to img it is possible to replicate the content,but depends what kind of content.

but I agree,today the quantity is starting to weigh heavily on the final income,much more today than in the past,and it will certainly be even more so in the future.

I just read that we have already exceeded one million contributors,from a source that I don't consider 100% reliable,but it's possible,with AI the contributors are increasing a lot.

cobalt · « **Reply #947 on:** September 24, 2024, 10:51 »

agencies like eyeem boast they have 30 million contributors if I remember.

but that doesn't mean they are all active producers.

somewhere on the discord i read that adobe now accepts 500k to 1 million files a day.

agencies used to get around 2 million week.

so it is possible that adobe is getting 3 times more files which matches that they said they are tripling their inspection team.

I keep checking for my personal niches and some have very little new content added every week.

others are swamped with even more duplicates.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #948 on:** September 24, 2024, 12:54 »

I also read,from a more reliable source,that 80% of sales come from 20% of contributors.

Anyway,I've had the exact same number of sales for 4 months in a row,and this will probably be the fifth,and very similar to every month since the beginning of this year.

in fact this week I'm already slowing down because I've been going better than usual this whole month,If I keep going strong this week too,then it's too much!

pires128 · « **Reply #949 on:** September 24, 2024, 14:45 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on September 24, 2024, 12:54

Anyway,I've had the exact same number of sales for 4 months in a row,and this will probably be the fifth,and very similar to every month since the beginning of this year.

this year i see a little increase every month, but i'm working like 12 hours/day on my port since february(when i used to make just around 100 bucks in a month). the last 'bar' is due the contributor payout.

if the competition is working hard, i like to worker smarter xD.i'm using tools like 'metaphoto AI' to auto generate keywords to my photos to speed up the process, so i focus more time on the fun part.. shooting, editing, etc. so i more than doubled my port this year!

if everything works like i planned, next year i'm quitting boring office job (well, maybe i will have to start working 16 hours/day lol)

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