Author Topic: What's your weekly ranking and how many images? (Read 16370 times)

Injustice for all · « **Reply #275 on:** March 23, 2024, 12:06 »

Quote from: cobalt on March 23, 2024, 11:26

that is quite sneaky, thank you for pointing this out.

you think you are safe in stealth mode, then you still need to unpublish manually every single file.

I think I might start deleting completely

Can we delete completely??

eta: cannot find a delete button...

next question: do the files stay unpublished if I downgrade?

that would open the option of doing one month hardcore midjourney in stealth mode, next month downgrade to 10 dollars, then again one month in stealth mode etc...

as far as I know the only way to delete images from Midjourney is by reacting to the message in Discord with X symbol and images are deleted not even immediately but in 20 min $:-\$

Midjourney is designed to be public so I don't like it very much,you still have to bother a little if you want to make sure your content isn't visible somewhere.

yes Cobalt,once manually unpublished they remain so.

blvdone · « **Reply #276 on:** March 23, 2024, 12:25 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on March 23, 2024, 11:13

Quote from: blvdone on March 23, 2024, 10:40
Quote from: cobalt on March 23, 2024, 09:57
because as soon as you downgrade your content is visible again.

Where did you get that info?

From what I read before starting to use Midjourney,the stealth mode and the private server may be enough to hide your actions with Midjourney,but then some online research,I read that you also need to unpublish on the MIdjourney site,and maybe that's another reason too,that when you downgrade your content is visible again.

in any case I unpublish manually on the Midjourney site after each hour-long session.

I found the publish/unpublish on Midjourney.com archive page a few months ago and have been unpublishing everything. Midjourney.com archive page is much easier to navigate and download photos you generated/upscaled unlike doing that on Discord.

cobalt · « **Reply #277 on:** March 23, 2024, 12:43 »

thank you both, really very useful info!!!

will certainly always unpublish and drop my costs by doing a monthly switch in plans.

I am now mostly using the archive page instead of discord.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #278 on:** March 23, 2024, 13:39 »

now with the new Midjourney Alpha interface is possible to easily reuse prompts of other users too,so better unpublish manually everything!

yes the archive page simplifies life.

I think Midjourney is too expensive,I had the pro plan for a while.

in my opinion Firefly is better,for many reasons,more practical,faster,private,and offers you more interesting variations,and it has other advantages too.

Midjourney has more attractive graphics,for some types of content,but it's quite cumbersome and public.

but this just my personal opinion!

cobalt · « **Reply #279 on:** March 23, 2024, 14:08 »

I agree. I just think for people content midjourney has the best.

But doing it for one month, unpublish everything after prompting, should e enough. then a one or two month break.

will try to get better with firefly. at least then we are supporting our own files.

cobalt · « **Reply #280 on:** March 26, 2024, 14:41 »

Currently pos 2780

Thank you for explaining how unpublishing works. Now I do it every day.

Will probably also downgrade midjourney to the 30 dollar plan next month and then toggle between intensive use months and relaxed use months.

I still find it very difficult to get what I want from any of the ais I am using. Which perhaps is a good thing, if I struggle so will many customers.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #281 on:** March 26, 2024, 16:22 »

Quote from: cobalt on March 26, 2024, 14:41

Currently pos 2780

Thank you for explaining how unpublishing works. Now I do it every day.

Will probably also downgrade midjourney to the 30 dollar plan next month and then toggle between intensive use months and relaxed use months.

I still find it very difficult to get what I want from any of the ais I am using. Which perhaps is a good thing, if I struggle so will many customers.

I see you're having a good week too,if you had continued these years you could have lived on microstocks by now!

Today,I reached the second best month in terms of sales numbers,my approval rate for AI content also rises to 90%

look like the average earnings for contributors on Adobe Stock is rising too,given that we continue to slowly earn more but more or less remain in the same positions,it means that the general average is rising.

AI outputs are incomplete images,if you look at them in general they may look ok,but if you look at them in detail they won't.

all AI outputs have chromatic aberrations to begin with,then if you see them up to 100% they may not be noticeable,but they are there,and which are obviously just defects in the rendering.

but then it's not just this,they lack details,and often if we waste a little time we can create better images with more details.

in general I believe that trying to create something which if seen at 100% is appreciable is the general rule,there are very few AI outputs that are fine as they are,abstract ones of course can also be fine as they are.

I try to see the AI outputs as a basis for the final image,a starting point,the combination of Photoshop generative fill and expand,plus photo editing and more can certainly lead to results in which the purchase of the image becomes extremely convenient for the customer who will never be able to generate anything similar just with a prompt.

Firefly is better at interpreting prompts,even with simple prompts you can often create what you want.

yes,maybe I will use Midjourney again in the future,but not for now,I already have thousands of contents to work on in post production,for the moment I think it's enough!

cobalt · « **Reply #282 on:** March 28, 2024, 16:04 »

my last rise before the steep fall, next week I will be back down to 4200

pos 2340, 4280 files

but I like that the adobe system is so dynamic. if you have what clients want there is no barrier to moving up.

zeljkok · « **Reply #283 on:** March 28, 2024, 19:04 »

My AS port is less than 2000 landscape/travel stills & can't compete with some of people here, but today was a nice surprise. This is most likely same customer, interesting 2 downloads of same image within few seconds, first normal sub then probably something enhanced.

Anyone interested, this is quite famous Mt. Robson and Berg Lake, one of most iconic back-country areas in Canadian Rockies

cobalt · « **Reply #284 on:** March 28, 2024, 19:31 »

Those are both lovely images and very good sales. Congratulations!

Not everyone wants to rebuild a full time stock income. In a different life I would probably enjoy the journey a lot more if I was doing stock more as a hobby.

I am sharing my results because I know many people are considering doing stock again more seriously and wondering if it is still possible to rise in ranks with the current flood of incoming content.

So I think it is encouraging that the Adobe system is very dynamic. Frustrating when it all drops back down of course, but once I have a port with 12k files it will be more stable.

blvdone · « **Reply #285 on:** March 28, 2024, 22:33 »

Just fell off the cliff. Fall from grace. I was at 1,030-1,080th till yesterday, but 50% down in a day. My haters must be celebrating. They are definitely entitled to it.

cobalt · « **Reply #286 on:** March 29, 2024, 01:50 »

That is just the holiday/spring break

You will move back up when they are back at work, I will fall down because the holiday is over.

But again, it shows how dynamic the system is.

There are people with 60 000 fies who have never seen anything near your current rank. You are doing exceptionally well.

blvdone · « **Reply #287 on:** March 29, 2024, 07:32 »

Quote from: cobalt on March 29, 2024, 01:50

That is just the holiday/spring break

You will move back up when they are back at work, I will fall down because the holiday is over.

But again, it shows how dynamic the system is.

There are people with 60 000 fies who have never seen anything near your current rank. You are doing exceptionally well.

Thank you!!

Injustice for all · « **Reply #288 on:** March 29, 2024, 11:30 »

after a strong Monday the rest of the week was pretty bad,not even an Easter sale

I don't know if you noticed but there are 1,076,612 results for "Easter" AI only,already a million AI contents for Easter.

this is why I am not particularly convinced that investing a lot of time in AI content is a good idea in the long term,for now yes,but I think in a year at most I don't think I will produce any more AI content,then clearly I will see,it depends on the results,but with this mass production so fast,I believe that the real difference can only be made with real contents at the end of the day.

cobalt · « **Reply #289 on:** March 29, 2024, 12:15 »

the numbers don't tell you anything about how much money you can make with a theme.

there are millions of files of everything - people, flowers, food, business, landscapes, tech, with or without ai.

and yet there are people who make reliable money every year.

the majority of content is just duplicates of duplicates, the number of people who actually make the effort to drill down into themes is tiny. they just sort any search by downloads and copy the first 3 pages.

i have seen people make reliable money just taking images of their garden and gardening work. but they do it reliably, add latin names to everything, their videos are very nicely done, the postprocessing is professional.

and while it is not a full time living, it is enough to pay the running costs of gardening equipment, seeds, earth...

others do that with their pet. first they create enough content so the pet literally feeds itself, then they expand what they do, also add family interacting, get pets from friends and suddenly they make a reliable add on income for the household.

etc...

the goal is to learn what customers like to buy from you, what you can reliably produce and then to just keep doing it until you have a few thousand good, very diverse files.

then your port will get bookmarked as a resource.

if you don't understand fashion, there is no real point to create fashion content just because a youtuber recommends it. or business people and high end teams if you don't understand the latest trends.

what sells best and very reliably, is authentic content.

either because it was taken with a camera on a specific location by someone who actually works in that field or it is ai but done by someone who understands the subject well.

for instance i spent many years working in traffic technology, so one of my ai projects will be to create useful content for that highly specialized market.

i also love good warm soups, so there is a recipe book ready and i am looking to team up with friends for small cooking shootings

etc...

the flood of ai is just like the flood of normal photos that comes in anyway.

it doesn't worry me.

Andrej.S. · « **Reply #290 on:** March 29, 2024, 14:40 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on March 29, 2024, 11:30

after a strong Monday the rest of the week was pretty bad,not even an Easter sale

I don't know if you noticed but there are 1,076,612 results for "Easter" AI only,already a million AI contents for Easter.

this is why I am not particularly convinced that investing a lot of time in AI content is a good idea in the long term,for now yes,but I think in a year at most I don't think I will produce any more AI content,then clearly I will see,it depends on the results,but with this mass production so fast,I believe that the real difference can only be made with real contents at the end of the day.

Well, it's not as if the competition is getting smaller.

Yes, the majority of AI images are currently still garbage because it takes a lot of time to find good generators and diffusion models.
But the bar is definitely getting higher. Many former classic photo bestsellers from 5 to 10 years ago have been overtaken by exceptionally good AI images.

My strategy is looking for niches right from the start. Popular subjects are pure luck or one have to create extremely creative concepts, which would have little competition.

Easter, for example, is brutal.
You won't stand a chance with standard motifs. You have to combine Easter with other themes. Vacations, online shopping, promotional offers for workshops, fashion, lifestyle, etc.

In other words, what a creative director would have photoshopped manually from standard stock material in the past.

And you have to build up a very balanced portfolio with many themes.
Otherwise one have no chance nowdays.

cobalt · « **Reply #291 on:** March 29, 2024, 14:51 »

"In other words, what a creative director would have photoshopped manually from standard stock material in the past"

Exactly this.

eta

just a brief moment in time, hopefully one day a normal value, maybe when I have 12 000 files on Adobe

Injustice for all · « **Reply #292 on:** March 30, 2024, 06:38 »

Quote from: cobalt on March 29, 2024, 12:15

the numbers don't tell you anything about how much money you can make with a theme.

there are millions of files of everything - people, flowers, food, business, landscapes, tech, with or without ai.

and yet there are people who make reliable money every year.

the majority of content is just duplicates of duplicates, the number of people who actually make the effort to drill down into themes is tiny. they just sort any search by downloads and copy the first 3 pages.

i have seen people make reliable money just taking images of their garden and gardening work. but they do it reliably, add latin names to everything, their videos are very nicely done, the postprocessing is professional.

and while it is not a full time living, it is enough to pay the running costs of gardening equipment, seeds, earth...

others do that with their pet. first they create enough content so the pet literally feeds itself, then they expand what they do, also add family interacting, get pets from friends and suddenly they make a reliable add on income for the household.

etc...

the goal is to learn what customers like to buy from you, what you can reliably produce and then to just keep doing it until you have a few thousand good, very diverse files.

then your port will get bookmarked as a resource.

if you don't understand fashion, there is no real point to create fashion content just because a youtuber recommends it. or business people and high end teams if you don't understand the latest trends.

what sells best and very reliably, is authentic content.

either because it was taken with a camera on a specific location by someone who actually works in that field or it is ai but done by someone who understands the subject well.

for instance i spent many years working in traffic technology, so one of my ai projects will be to create useful content for that highly specialized market.

i also love good warm soups, so there is a recipe book ready and i am looking to team up with friends for small cooking shootings

etc...

the flood of ai is just like the flood of normal photos that comes in anyway.

it doesn't worry me.

yes and no

I agree with almost everything but not quite everything,AI content is different,technology advances,today's content will probably be obsolete in a couple of years,for example.

going back to Easter as an example,there are 3,188,923 traditional contentsand already one million AI,how long did it take to reach 3 million Easter contents?decades,how much for a million AI?a year?that's a big difference!

I agree that specializing in a type of content,for example food,or gardens is certainly a winning strategy,I have a type of content in which I started specializing in February 2023,given that there aren't many on Adobe,and I will always continue to make this content the basis of my portfolio, while trying to do everything else as well.

AI content can certainly be sold but in my opinion it cannot represent the basis of a portfolio,only real content can make the difference.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #293 on:** March 30, 2024, 06:48 »

Quote from: Andrej.S. on March 29, 2024, 14:40

Quote from: Injustice for all on March 29, 2024, 11:30
after a strong Monday the rest of the week was pretty bad,not even an Easter sale

I don't know if you noticed but there are 1,076,612 results for "Easter" AI only,already a million AI contents for Easter.

this is why I am not particularly convinced that investing a lot of time in AI content is a good idea in the long term,for now yes,but I think in a year at most I don't think I will produce any more AI content,then clearly I will see,it depends on the results,but with this mass production so fast,I believe that the real difference can only be made with real contents at the end of the day.

Well, it's not as if the competition is getting smaller.

Yes, the majority of AI images are currently still garbage because it takes a lot of time to find good generators and diffusion models.
But the bar is definitely getting higher. Many former classic photo bestsellers from 5 to 10 years ago have been overtaken by exceptionally good AI images.

My strategy is looking for niches right from the start. Popular subjects are pure luck or one have to create extremely creative concepts, which would have little competition.

Easter, for example, is brutal.
You won't stand a chance with standard motifs. You have to combine Easter with other themes. Vacations, online shopping, promotional offers for workshops, fashion, lifestyle, etc.

In other words, what a creative director would have photoshopped manually from standard stock material in the past.

And you have to build up a very balanced portfolio with many themes.
Otherwise one have no chance nowdays.

yes and no the same

certainly,Easter is like photographing tomatoes,a very busy topic(there are 900,178 AI tomatoes and 4,627,028 real tomatoes)

a balanced portfolio is certainly fine,but it is better to specialize in one thing as a basis,while you can also do something else,if you succeed it is always better.

looking for niches is a winning strategy,we agree on this.

cobalt · « **Reply #294 on:** March 30, 2024, 06:58 »

"AI content can certainly be sold but in my opinion it cannot represent the basis of a portfolio,only real content can make the difference."

What about ai that looks completely real?

Injustice for all · « **Reply #295 on:** March 30, 2024, 07:02 »

Quote from: cobalt on March 29, 2024, 01:50

That is just the holiday/spring break

You will move back up when they are back at work, I will fall down because the holiday is over.

But again, it shows how dynamic the system is.

There are people with 60 000 fies who have never seen anything near your current rank. You are doing exceptionally well.

I also wanted to answer this,if there really is a portfolio with 60,000 contents that can't earn 200 usd a week,the explanation is very simple,either it doesn't have enough different content,it's full of similar and few subjects,that someone else with a 10 times smaller portfolio has 10 times more different subjects and therefore sells more.

or just hasn't had 60,000 pieces of content in a long time,because,from what I've seen,a portfolio with 5,000 contents that has been active for 15 years sells more than a portfolio with 60,000 contents that has been active for 5 years.

From what I understand,on Adobe time is one of the most important factors,a portfolio of 5000 contents that started in 2010 enjoys greater exposure than a portfolio with 60,000 contents active since 2020.

all of this is clearly just my conclusions from what I have seen,because obviously no one knows exactly how the sales system works,but if this is the case,i.e. that senior contributors earn more,I think it is right.

to be more clear,in my opinion it is right that a portfolio with 5000 contents active since 2010 earns more than a portfolio with 50,000 contents active since 2020,it is better that over time you earn more,and it doesn't depend only on how much content you have.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #296 on:** March 30, 2024, 07:06 »

Quote from: cobalt on March 30, 2024, 06:58

"AI content can certainly be sold but in my opinion it cannot represent the basis of a portfolio,only real content can make the difference."

What about ai that looks completely real?

it is always content labeled with AI,it can seem as real as you want but it is always AI

but for now it's fine,we are still in a phase where AI content is new and there are still many empty spaces,but I believe that in a year it will already be different.

in any case it can always be an addition to the real contents,but certainly not the basis.

cobalt · « **Reply #297 on:** March 30, 2024, 18:42 »

sales slowing down drastically, still moving up a bit

pos 1930

PeteStock · « **Reply #298 on:** March 31, 2024, 12:13 »

First time that I see a rank (I upload only videos)

cobalt · « **Reply #299 on:** March 31, 2024, 12:17 »

the rank is based on volume, not money, so you are probably earning a lot more than many others with your 5 sales

still, it is fun to see how it develops.

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