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« Reply #325 on: April 03, 2024, 22:38 »
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That said, I do enjoy teaching so when I retire, I would like to teach one or two people about how I did things. Not so much for money etc, just because I like the idea of passing something on.


Its difficult to retire if you enjoy to create. Especially if you are good at it and success comes fairly easy. Part time is a wonderful option to still use your talent. Its so enjoyable to see your work sell.
Thats why I dont upload hundreds of images. Im done with being efficient and streamlined, now I enjoy creative process and little rewards


« Reply #326 on: April 03, 2024, 23:55 »
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Top 100 weekly, top 100 lifetime, less than 10k.

Congratulations on your hard work!!!

No need to share details, I think it is already very helpful to know that such a position can indeed be reached by a single artist.

I always thought the top 100 was for large studio/team producers only. The only person I know in that level started out as a single artist but had progressed to working more as an art director and has people working for him, some full time, some on work for hire basis.

I do believe in sharing helpful information with peers and it can be done without reveailing best selling content.

Plus the algos make copying sometimes harder than people think. I know many producers who did a ton of seasonal content with ai, but get few sales, while my christmas season was quite good. But I have really, really old files that have probably accumulated in many galeries over the 10 years I didnt upload and these are the ones that started bringing in the money again. The ai stuff also sold, but less than old files revived.

For me I see it with my ai people, while they are slowly starting to sell, if I just do carrots on white background I will have better sales with that.

And if I do that with my camera, the carrots can go everywhere.

However, if I am consistent with my ai people uploads, then I am sure in 3-4 years they will also get good sales, like anything isolated or my greeting cards.

Same for illustrations. It is a new medium for me, there is ZERO algo track record. I have uploaded a lot of seasonal illustrations but sales are very, very slow. And sometimes very unexpected, I am actually having artsy files sell. Done in watercolor or oil painting style.

So my first 3000 illustrations will be test subjects, trying many different niches and many, many different art styles.

Then gradually the customers will tell me what they like and I will make more of that.

But if I ever wanted to got for the top 100, I would certainly need 30k plus files.

I do a lot of research, but wouldnt know how to do that with less than 10k even if I could identify 10k top selling concepts. Gallery uptake by clients is a very slow process. Having instant best sellers is very rare for me.

There is also the time factor, I want to grow my income over the next 2-3 years, not over 20.

Roughly 60% of what i upload is still experimental, with ai even higher, because I am testing a lot of new things.

Thank you to anyone in top levels sharing ranks and port sizes.

For newbies it should help them understand that stock needs a ton of research and is not a slot machine where you throw random files in and money comes out.

The money is related to usefulness for clients not overall random content port size.


« Last Edit: April 04, 2024, 01:13 by cobalt »

« Reply #327 on: April 04, 2024, 02:37 »
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Portfolio size does not necessarily seem to matter... 30k/40k files does not necessarily 'guarantee' one a top spot, especially if say it is 30k pictures of bananas :P

One thing I've noticed is it seems some very (relatively speaking) "small" portfolios for whatever reason - have a few 'best sellers' that take off like wildfire... Lol obviously if I knew what the 'magic formula' was- I just focus on producing those bestsellers :)

And then I suppose there are some that are difficult to recreate... yes, "ai" (its not real "ai", its basically copying and blending) - is getting better at stealing content & rehashing/blending it... but - definitely not "perfect"... There was one video (I think someone posted here, or maybe I saw it while looking at other things) - where I guess a woman was saying she made $8k from a single image... She shared it - and it was a very good picture of a baby under a white blanket... just happened to have the right expression, right lighting, etc and resonated with a lot of people... Now the "ai" could try and steal that - but it wouldn't be the same...

And then also - I think in some ways images sell in "different" ways... I.e., if people see that baby image, they want "that" image for their campaigns, etc... so that probably also helps propel some sales too...

« Reply #328 on: April 04, 2024, 03:23 »
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On my way back down

pos 2240

you go down and I go up  :D but I'm always far from you rank,even though I have more content than you,I've been on Adobe Stock for much less time than you.

I don't believe it is the time factor, which is relevant to be pushed up by Adobe.
I think it is rather a well balanced mix of real photos and AI images that is promoted by Adobe.

A good example is the following portfolio (although he steals a lot of ideas from other contributors)
https://stock.adobe.com/de/contributor/201195540/igor-link

« Reply #329 on: April 04, 2024, 03:37 »
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I have seen a lot of these images on midjourney, but not sure if they were all from the same creator.

That is the thing with ai, if it is easy to find on midjourney, there might be thousands of people doing the exact same thing.

« Reply #330 on: April 04, 2024, 04:49 »
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Top 100 weekly, top 100 lifetime, less than 10k.

Congratulations on your hard work!!!

No need to share details, I think it is already very helpful to know that such a position can indeed be reached by a single artist.

I always thought the top 100 was for large studio/team producers only. The only person I know in that level started out as a single artist but had progressed to working more as an art director and has people working for him, some full time, some on work for hire basis.

I do believe in sharing helpful information with peers and it can be done without reveailing best selling content.

Plus the algos make copying sometimes harder than people think. I know many producers who did a ton of seasonal content with ai, but get few sales, while my christmas season was quite good. But I have really, really old files that have probably accumulated in many galeries over the 10 years I didnt upload and these are the ones that started bringing in the money again. The ai stuff also sold, but less than old files revived.

For me I see it with my ai people, while they are slowly starting to sell, if I just do carrots on white background I will have better sales with that.

And if I do that with my camera, the carrots can go everywhere.

However, if I am consistent with my ai people uploads, then I am sure in 3-4 years they will also get good sales, like anything isolated or my greeting cards.

Same for illustrations. It is a new medium for me, there is ZERO algo track record. I have uploaded a lot of seasonal illustrations but sales are very, very slow. And sometimes very unexpected, I am actually having artsy files sell. Done in watercolor or oil painting style.

So my first 3000 illustrations will be test subjects, trying many different niches and many, many different art styles.

Then gradually the customers will tell me what they like and I will make more of that.

But if I ever wanted to got for the top 100, I would certainly need 30k plus files.

I do a lot of research, but wouldnt know how to do that with less than 10k even if I could identify 10k top selling concepts. Gallery uptake by clients is a very slow process. Having instant best sellers is very rare for me.

There is also the time factor, I want to grow my income over the next 2-3 years, not over 20.

Roughly 60% of what i upload is still experimental, with ai even higher, because I am testing a lot of new things.

Thank you to anyone in top levels sharing ranks and port sizes.

For newbies it should help them understand that stock needs a ton of research and is not a slot machine where you throw random files in and money comes out.

The money is related to usefulness for clients not overall random content port size.

I don't think it would be a good idea with your current portfolio.
I rather have the feeling that Adobe penalizes spammer portfolios heavily and lowers the ranking.

I would always test experiments with a new account (multiple are allowed) to avoid your main portfolio crashing.

I would even go so far as to create a separate account for each type of image (interior, fashion,
seasonal content, etc.).

« Reply #331 on: April 04, 2024, 05:16 »
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Never heard of people having multiple accounts for different content types, not sure if that is even allowed on Adobe. I am only aware to open a new account when you are over 1 million files or an account for a special media group - only video, only ai

It would be crazy difficult to reach a good ranking with several portfolios, each has to work itself up by itself?!

I would never be able to create enough content.

I have no intention of spamming Adobe, I usually upload around 50 files a week, trying very hard to increase that.

There is no chance of me having 30k files on Adobe in 2 years.

But for a full time living from ONLY Adobe I would probably need 30k files.

But there are other agencies and other media types.

So to reach a full time income over 3-4 years is certainly possible with the right content.

But not only ai and certainly not only Adobe.

« Reply #332 on: April 04, 2024, 05:29 »
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Never heard of people having multiple accounts for different content types, not sure if that is even allowed on Adobe. I am only aware to open a new account when you are over 1 million files or an account for a special media group - only video, only ai

It would be crazy difficult to reach a good ranking with several portfolios, each has to work itself up by itself?!

I would never be able to create enough content.

I have no intention of spamming Adobe, I usually upload around 50 files a week, trying very hard to increase that.

There is no chance of me having 30k files on Adobe in 2 years.

But for a full time living from ONLY Adobe I would probably need 30k files.

But there are other agencies and other media types.

So to reach a full time income over 3-4 years is certainly possible with the right content.

But not only ai and certainly not only Adobe.

Don't think it's worth having multiple accounts.

Personally now I am on 3k files on Adobe. But planning to have 10k images and 1 k in videos by end of this year.

Will focus more on macro and aerial shots, maybe add some FPV and time-lapses.

« Reply #333 on: April 04, 2024, 05:35 »
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Multiple accounts used to be freely allowed, but when people started using them to bypass upload limits new rules were introduced. You can have multiple accounts if you want to independently track different asset types, for example vectors versus photos, or Gen. AI versus non-Gen. AI, but you cannot have multiple accounts for the purpose of bypassing upload limits. If you have Gen. AI in more than one account that will be considered as trying to bypass upload limits and you risk having your accounts suspended or terminated.

« Reply #334 on: April 04, 2024, 05:45 »
+1
On my way back down

pos 2240

you go down and I go up  :D but I'm always far from you rank,even though I have more content than you,I've been on Adobe Stock for much less time than you.

I don't believe it is the time factor, which is relevant to be pushed up by Adobe.
I think it is rather a well balanced mix of real photos and AI images that is promoted by Adobe.

A good example is the following portfolio (although he steals a lot of ideas from other contributors)
https://stock.adobe.com/de/contributor/201195540/igor-link

but regardless of whether your portfolio is promoted or not,over time sales increase,so time remains the most important factor,as it should be.

a portfolio of 5000 contents active since 2010 earns more than a portfolio of 20,000 contents active since 2020,assuming that neither portfolio is promoted by Adobe.

« Reply #335 on: April 04, 2024, 05:59 »
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Being "active" is an important factor in visibility on most sites.

« Reply #336 on: April 04, 2024, 06:00 »
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Multiple accounts used to be freely allowed, but when people started using them to bypass upload limits new rules were introduced. You can have multiple accounts if you want to independently track different asset types, for example vectors versus photos, or Gen. AI versus non-Gen. AI, but you cannot have multiple accounts for the purpose of bypassing upload limits. If you have Gen. AI in more than one account that will be considered as trying to bypass upload limits and you risk having your accounts suspended or terminated.

Is that still allowed nowadays? Interesting how practical it is.

« Reply #337 on: April 04, 2024, 06:41 »
+1
On my way back down

pos 2240

you go down and I go up  :D but I'm always far from you rank,even though I have more content than you,I've been on Adobe Stock for much less time than you.

I don't believe it is the time factor, which is relevant to be pushed up by Adobe.
I think it is rather a well balanced mix of real photos and AI images that is promoted by Adobe.

A good example is the following portfolio (although he steals a lot of ideas from other contributors)
https://stock.adobe.com/de/contributor/201195540/igor-link

but regardless of whether your portfolio is promoted or not,over time sales increase,so time remains the most important factor,as it should be.

a portfolio of 5000 contents active since 2010 earns more than a portfolio of 20,000 contents active since 2020,assuming that neither portfolio is promoted by Adobe.

I would say this is more an image ranking subject.
There are long-established contributors who are still living off their old bestsellers, which have climbed a good ranking over the years because there was less competition back then.

If one had crap back then 15 years ago it won't help you with new AI stuff.

Several accounts are allowed and I'm currently testing with a new one for other various content.
But there is a review limit of 50 images at the beginning.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2024, 06:43 by Andrej.S. »

« Reply #338 on: April 04, 2024, 07:06 »
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Well, it will be interesting to hear how you fare with several ports.

You have to overcome the upload limits, then gradually rise in rank to over 10 000 again.

I cannot produce enough content for that, but luck with. your project.

« Reply #339 on: April 04, 2024, 11:31 »
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That said, I do enjoy teaching so when I retire, I would like to teach one or two people about how I did things. Not so much for money etc, just because I like the idea of passing something on.


Its difficult to retire if you enjoy to create. Especially if you are good at it and success comes fairly easy. Part time is a wonderful option to still use your talent. Its so enjoyable to see your work sell.
Thats why I dont upload hundreds of images. Im done with being efficient and streamlined, now I enjoy creative process and little rewards

Very true. I do the same now. For me, retiring wouldnt be a complete stop, just focus on areas I enjoy the most when I have time. Another 10years of gradual wind down!

« Reply #340 on: April 04, 2024, 15:16 »
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I had several digitaly-drawn bestsellers that sold like wildfire , but each of them died just as suddenly. Plus, I only had 2 bestsellers at a time that sell great

Im starting to doubt that one can rely on bestsellers long term post 2021?

« Reply #341 on: April 04, 2024, 16:14 »
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I have read several times here about "bestsellers". Now I'm curious as to what a "bestseller" at AS actually is.
500 downloads? 1,000 downloads? 2,500 downloads? 5,000 downloads? Or even more?

« Reply #342 on: April 04, 2024, 18:55 »
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I always thought the top 100 was for large studio/team producers only. The only person I know in that level started out as a single artist but had progressed to working more as an art director and has people working for him, some full time, some on work for hire basis.

No, I was among the top 100 in around 2017/2018. But then I kinda moved on from stock and uploaded very rarely. Now I'm around 600 (both weekly and lifetime) and I have a feeling I could crack the top 500 if I made a bit more images. But I don't.

Anyway, it's doable. Good luck to you all!

« Reply #343 on: April 04, 2024, 20:08 »
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Top 100 weekly, top 100 lifetime, less than 10k.

wow this is great! :)  How long have you been an Adobe Stock contributor,if I may ask?

I started submitting in 2016.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2024, 20:29 by Minsc »

« Reply #344 on: April 04, 2024, 21:24 »
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I have read several times here about "bestsellers". Now I'm curious as to what a "bestseller" at AS actually is.
500 downloads? 1,000 downloads? 2,500 downloads? 5,000 downloads? Or even more?

I have one file with over 10k lifetime sales.

But I would consider a file that sells at least 2-3 times a week to be a reliable bestseller, or around 100 sales a year.

The ideal bestsellers is something that gets sales nearly every day.

I do have seasonal bestsellers that can sell 5-10 a day in the season, but then die off quickly when the event is over. And that is usually just for 1-2 weeks very close to the holiday event.

But the most important - can the bestseller lead to more sales of the series? Then the file becomes really valuable.

It is the download of a complete series or at least 3 files at the same time that makes a real bestseller for me.

A lead file that can entice customers to look what else I have on the subject.



« Reply #345 on: April 05, 2024, 04:03 »
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I have read several times here about "bestsellers". Now I'm curious as to what a "bestseller" at AS actually is.
500 downloads? 1,000 downloads? 2,500 downloads? 5,000 downloads? Or even more?

I have one file with over 10k lifetime sales.

But I would consider a file that sells at least 2-3 times a week to be a reliable bestseller, or around 100 sales a year.

The ideal bestsellers is something that gets sales nearly every day.

I do have seasonal bestsellers that can sell 5-10 a day in the season, but then die off quickly when the event is over. And that is usually just for 1-2 weeks very close to the holiday event.

But the most important - can the bestseller lead to more sales of the series? Then the file becomes really valuable.

It is the download of a complete series or at least 3 files at the same time that makes a real bestseller for me.

A lead file that can entice customers to look what else I have on the subject.

10k sales with one image is dam* good.
But on the other hand one is quite fragile if the bestseller drys out.

Ideally the portfolio should be (like a financial portfolio) as well balanced as possible.
And as you said even more ideally the buyers would buy more images from a series when they see the leading bestseller.

Currently you can't produce accurate image series with AI.
But probably with Midjourney v7/v8 or Stable Diffusion XL 4 it will be possible.

« Reply #346 on: April 05, 2024, 04:12 »
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I am still in the early stages of learning about midjourney. While you cannot get a series with a specific model you can get a theme of files with similar vibe, colors, lighting.

Midjourney people files still need a lot processing, I get a lot of great looking files, then on close up discover all kinds of issues with broken teeth, weird fingers growing out of a neck, strange details on clothes. The experssions are better than on stable, but far from perfect.

But the biggest challenge is to get faces that not everybody has. It feels like Mj just has 10 faces to choose from for a given age and ethnic type.

I am also trying to do more with Adobe and next week I have my first real shooting with a camera again.

But like I said before, the main focus for this year will be ai illustrations and to learn what I can offer that people will then like to buy. Every illustration sale, is a sale I would not have had otherwise.

They are selling very, very slowly, even the holiday files sell slow. But I believe it will pay off eventually, once the initial files have laid their roots across the algos, which will probably take 3 years.

« Reply #347 on: April 05, 2024, 05:33 »
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I have read several times here about "bestsellers". Now I'm curious as to what a "bestseller" at AS actually is.
500 downloads? 1,000 downloads? 2,500 downloads? 5,000 downloads? Or even more?

I have one file with over 10k lifetime sales.

But I would consider a file that sells at least 2-3 times a week to be a reliable bestseller, or around 100 sales a year.

The ideal bestsellers is something that gets sales nearly every day.

I do have seasonal bestsellers that can sell 5-10 a day in the season, but then die off quickly when the event is over. And that is usually just for 1-2 weeks very close to the holiday event.

But the most important - can the bestseller lead to more sales of the series? Then the file becomes really valuable.

It is the download of a complete series or at least 3 files at the same time that makes a real bestseller for me.

A lead file that can entice customers to look what else I have on the subject.

More than 10 k downloads for a single image on AS alone is a highlight. The image must be one of the best files on AS. The top sellers used to be displayed on fotolia. I remember, for example, the images by ioannis kounadeas, some of which had 6 or 7 k downloads over 10 years ago. But then they were copied without end.

Congratulations anyway - that's really great!

« Reply #348 on: April 05, 2024, 05:50 »
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10k over all agencies, sorry. Most of the sales were on istock. It is an old files with now endless copies.

« Reply #349 on: April 05, 2024, 06:56 »
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Top 100 weekly, top 100 lifetime, less than 10k.

wow this is great! :)  How long have you been an Adobe Stock contributor,if I may ask?

I started submitting in 2016.

Thank you,therefore for less than 10 years and already among the top 100 with less than 10k contents,it's incredible! :)

It's also very hard to believe,but ok anything can be! :)


 

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