Author Topic: What's your weekly ranking and how many images? (Read 17031 times)

cobalt · « **Reply #400 on:** April 10, 2024, 11:53 »

I am in several private groups where people share weekly ranks. So we have a good baseline. But I only know one person in the top 100 and he is no longer a single artists, but has a team.

But here we had several people sharing very high ranks. Of course you have to believe them, but they are all old timers.

Like I said, I don't need totally exact data. Just to know that it is possible.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #401 on:** April 10, 2024, 12:40 »

Quote from: cobalt on April 10, 2024, 11:53

I am in several private groups where people share weekly ranks. So we have a good baseline. But I only know one person in the top 100 and he is no longer a single artists, but has a team.

But here we had several people sharing very high ranks. Of course you have to believe them, but they are all old timers.

Like I said, I don't need totally exact data. Just to know that it is possible.

entering the top 100 as a single artist is possible,take a lot of time,around 10 years minimum,and also luck in various aspects in addition to hard and constant work and skill,but it is also possible as a single artist,although we can safely say that for most contributors it is impossible.

I have updates from contributors with huge portfolios who have been in the microstock for more than 10 years,from what I see in the March results the trend is this:

all agencies are down,from 30% to 50% less,all except Adobe which ranges from stable for some up to 50% more

for me March 2024 was only 10% more than March 2023 on Adobe,while instead January 40% more and February 50% more.

for this month I expect 40-50% more from how it is going so far

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #402 on:** April 11, 2024, 13:56 »

Quote from: cobalt on April 10, 2024, 11:53

I am in several private groups where people share weekly ranks. So we have a good baseline. But I only know one person in the top 100 and he is no longer a single artists, but has a team.

But here we had several people sharing very high ranks. Of course you have to believe them, but they are all old timers.

Like I said, I don't need totally exact data. Just to know that it is possible.

Nice! Just remember to take your notes on the same day, around the same time, or the numbers become less reliable.

I have no doubts about your numbers or what others share. There's no reason for a private group to have people making things up.

I remain irrelevant and so do my numbers. 👍 23,200 right at this moment. Which is a sad not, not for myself, but the many others, who are doing worse than I do.

cobalt · « **Reply #403 on:** April 11, 2024, 15:24 »

"I remain irrelevant and so do my numbers. 👍 23,200 right at this moment. Which is a sad not, not for myself, but the many others, who are doing worse than I do."

You've been doing stock for quite a while now. If it was important to you, you could create more focused content and have better sales

Moving up in rank is not exactly magic, just a lot of very, very hard work.

Having a few friends to work and share results with is very motivating. But you can also do it on your own.

Adobe gives a lot of very helpful suggestions in their discord what customers are looking for and what to record in the current month to have it ready for next year.

They also have monthly challenges based on currently needed content. There is a lot of support in researching trends from all agencies.

And if there is a subject in their newsletters that everyone s asking for, then it must be in high demand...

eta

pos 5580...but I will claw myself back up in a few weeks.

BT1976 · « **Reply #404 on:** April 11, 2024, 16:02 »

Let's say we sold 5 images in the first minute of the weekly ranking. For example, the position was 1750. But we didn't make any other sales that week. The position will continue to appear as 1750 until the last minute of the weekly rankings.

That's why I think the results can be very misleading, except for the first positions.

cobalt · « **Reply #405 on:** April 11, 2024, 17:43 »

no it doesn‘t.

the weekly rank is adjusted once a day. if you have no other sales that week, your rank will be crashing down.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #406 on:** April 12, 2024, 11:15 »

Quote from: cobalt on April 11, 2024, 15:24

"I remain irrelevant and so do my numbers. 👍 23,200 right at this moment. Which is a sad not, not for myself, but the many others, who are doing worse than I do."

You've been doing stock for quite a while now. If it was important to you, you could create more focused content and have better sales

Agreed, anyone can move up with planning, attention to what sells, and a bit of work. Like you say, knowing it's possible is a good thing.

In my case, Adobe doesn't take editorial. Last I checked I was over 80% Editorial images.

I'll also add, I'm not complaining about my rank or what they do give me. I'm just reporting the numbers. I continue to feel sorrow for people who are doing worse than I do, with my limited, only 1,019 files. I finally put my foot down and passed 1,000 this year.

As someone irrelevant I was just adding the number, which is the same today, 23,200th to show the brackets and levels of bottom feeders.

I joined Adobe December 2015. Lifetime is 25,300th. I don't expect that to change much, either way. Maybe down as people are active and work harder. Maybe the same relative rank, as people, stop actively working? Anything I suspect is only a guess. But if 25,300 people are ahead of me, how many are behind? In theory, everyone else. How many contributors are there for Adobe?

If I'm 23,200th, and this week has been pretty low, once again, everyone else is worse off than I am. 100,000 contributors? I'm ahead of 76,800. No brag in that, but wow, I'm terrible, what are they?

cobalt · « **Reply #407 on:** April 12, 2024, 12:32 »

Do you do editorial video as well? I get some really interesting sales on pond5 and have to keep reminding myself to do more editorial.

Some people post editorial sales nearly every day.

https://www.pond5.com/community?thread=8135844

You probably know that Adobe takes illustrative editorial. I have started a tiny collection of German food stuff and get regular sales. Must do more of that, once I get back to real photos again.

I don't think you need to be sad for anyone with smaller ports or lower ranks. For many stock is just a fun hobby, if they make enough to buy a new lens once a year, they consider it a great success.

In one of my groups somebody said that less than 2000 people make more than 1000 dollars a month on Adobe.

I couldn't quite believe it, but by sharing our ranks, I now think there are less people making more than 1k than I thought.

But in all the cases I have seen, it is because producers are simply not listening to what the agencies are asking for. They spend hardly any time on research, if you ask them which customer group they are specifically targeting you get a blank stare...

Too many people think stock is some kind of slot machine, just throw many files in and then the money comes out.

I think editorial is one of the best things you can do in the time of ai.

Just do more of it. And while you are at, think about a few normal stock images you can shoot at the same time.

Or just little videos of "hands doing something", doing dishes, cooking, planting flowers, writing, typing...so many little every day things that are very easy to document.

You can do better than just a 1k port

You already know everything that is needed to have great sales.

pos 5480

Injustice for all · « **Reply #408 on:** April 12, 2024, 19:06 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on April 12, 2024, 11:15

Quote from: cobalt on April 11, 2024, 15:24
"I remain irrelevant and so do my numbers. 👍 23,200 right at this moment. Which is a sad not, not for myself, but the many others, who are doing worse than I do."

You've been doing stock for quite a while now. If it was important to you, you could create more focused content and have better sales

Agreed, anyone can move up with planning, attention to what sells, and a bit of work. Like you say, knowing it's possible is a good thing.

In my case, Adobe doesn't take editorial. Last I checked I was over 80% Editorial images.

I'll also add, I'm not complaining about my rank or what they do give me. I'm just reporting the numbers. I continue to feel sorrow for people who are doing worse than I do, with my limited, only 1,019 files. I finally put my foot down and passed 1,000 this year. As someone irrelevant I was just adding the number, which is the same today, 23,200th to show the brackets and levels of bottom feeders.

I joined Adobe December 2015. Lifetime is 25,300th. I don't expect that to change much, either way. Maybe down as people are active and work harder. Maybe the same relative rank, as people, stop actively working? Anything I suspect is only a guess. But if 25,300 people are ahead of me, how many are behind? In theory, everyone else. How many contributors are there for Adobe?

If I'm 23,200th, and this week has been pretty low, once again, everyone else is worse off than I am. 100,000 contributors? I'm ahead of 76,800. No brag in that, but wow, I'm terrible, what are they?

Pete,you may think you're terrible and you're probably less terrible than you think,but aside from your portfolio you have time on your side

you started in December 2015 so before many other contributors,even before me,and due to the way Adobe's sales system works you have an advantage.

the system show your content longer than others who started in 2020 for example.

the number of sales you make depends mainly on how long you have been a contributor,your level and what you have in your portfolio.

the point is that you could use this advantage.

if we upload the same file at the same time to Adobe Stock you are more likely than me to sell it,because you have the advantage of time,because you started before me.

so in short,my advice is upload more,take advantage of this advantage

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #409 on:** April 13, 2024, 10:12 »

Just to answer, without continuing variations. I shoot News Editorial, which Adobe doesn't take.

Yes I have some IEd, they do fine, when they are useful for buyers or the current events.

When I feel sad, it's not all broken up pity, and that. I just mean, if someone is trying, and working at this and they are doing worse than me, they might look for something else. I like the money, I use it, I appreciate what I get. Yes, I work for the money or why bother uploading? But it's not important for my life, I don't depend on the Microstock income, which is different than the serious people.

I'm not that serious, what I upload is not that well researched, or targeted, I'm just having fun. Of course, the money makes it more fun.

This has been a terrible week, even by my usual numbers: 25,300th I've had more sales in a day, than I had all this week. I watched for a while last year and was up to 7,740 in November. Considering I was in the 7-8,000 a bunch of weeks, and currently I'm 25,000, I don't see much useful information from watching my rank. I can see the sales, downloads and money, without wondering "how am I doing" compared to someone else.

How many active artists are there? And I know active is a vague term. AS says 20 uploads and 100 DLS a year. That's a pretty low requirement, but with that in mind, how many artists are there?

One more small thing about numbers and ranks. When people here were more active and volunteered data for the MSG poll, and when IS had artists data that we could see, I figured people from this group were the top 5% of Microstock artists, in the world. That's pretty good!

Injustice for all · « **Reply #410 on:** April 13, 2024, 14:12 »

this was my best rank ever,when my portfolio is highlighted I sell quite well,my goal is to have at least more than 1000 usd per month from Adobe Stock.

I think it will still take 2-3 years at least to reach this goal,regardless of what I upload,because it is mainly a question of time.

if I stop uploading today and come back in 5 years and start uploading again,in my opinion,I will soon start traveling between 2000 and 3000 ranks every week,because in the meantime 5 years have passed anyway even if I haven't uploaded anything else.

However,this is not convenient to do,because if instead I take advantage of the next 5 years and continue to upload,I will most likely be among the first 1000 at least.

TIME This is one of the most important factor on Adobe Stock,it takes a lot of patience,my portfolio is still young,6 years is not enough!

pancaketom · « **Reply #411 on:** April 13, 2024, 14:33 »

I would say time is the biggest factor against making a lot of money at microstock. I have no idea of the actual half life of images, but in general with the same port you will make less money every year from a combination of more competition (both from other artists and thieves and now AI) plus the sites taking a bigger cut either by changing the terms, selling their own material, or through backdoor accounting shenanigans or just lower costs - although inflation seems to make everything more expensive, it doesn't seem to be the case for microstock which keeps getting cheaper either in terms of actual cost or better license deals or more subs for the same amount or all you can eat buffets.

So, if you want to make $ at this you are more likely to do that by working now rather than waiting a while when looking back these will be the good old days. It is sort of like planting a tree, the best time to do it is 10 years ago (or for microstock 15 years ago), but the next best time is now.

Wilm · « **Reply #412 on:** April 13, 2024, 16:19 »

Quote from: pancaketom on April 13, 2024, 14:33

I would say time is the biggest factor against making a lot of money at microstock. I have no idea of the actual half life of images, but in general with the same port you will make less money every year from a combination of more competition (both from other artists and thieves and now AI) plus the sites taking a bigger cut either by changing the terms, selling their own material, or through backdoor accounting shenanigans or just lower costs - although inflation seems to make everything more expensive, it doesn't seem to be the case for microstock which keeps getting cheaper either in terms of actual cost or better license deals or more subs for the same amount or all you can eat buffets.

So, if you want to make $ at this you are more likely to do that by working now rather than waiting a while when looking back these will be the good old days. It is sort of like planting a tree, the best time to do it is 10 years ago (or for microstock 15 years ago), but the next best time is now.

I am aware of that.

But: in general, there is hardly a development anywhere else where someone says they want to work more and more and more to get the same money as they did 10 years ago.

Everyone has to decide for themselves whether they are prepared to figuratively compensate for a lower hourly wage by working twice as much.

Personally, I don't want to do that because I would rather invest the time in work that pays better. I don't want to sound arrogant, but I simply don't want to feed a beast that is getting greedier and greedier at my expense.

When the time comes in this industry when you have to work 100 hours a week and continue to be active in the hamster wheel in order to earn what you got 10 years earlier with 10 hours of work, that is simply the wrong way for me personally.

However, I'm happy to admit that this is easy to say, because microstock has always been just a hobby for me and I've never been forced to make a living from it. And I would like to add: It really was a nice hobby that somehow made the work worthwhile. I wouldn't want to miss that time. I had a lot of fun!

And it is precisely this fun and the resulting motivation that I personally have unfortunately lost. I think that's a great pity, but I accept it.

I also have the problem that I'm running out of ideas. My creativity is waning - possibly also due to my age. And when images are copied almost unchanged and the agencies don't give a crap, that's another motivation killer!

Nevertheless, money still comes in - albeit much less than before - without me having to do anything for it. That's the beauty of it!

And: I hope every contributor who is hard-working and can therefore show a positive development, unlike me right now, is rewarded for their hard work! And I hope that every one of them will be able to say in a few years' time that their work has been worthwhile.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #413 on:** April 14, 2024, 03:02 »

Quote from: pancaketom on April 13, 2024, 14:33

I would say time is the biggest factor against making a lot of money at microstock. I have no idea of the actual half life of images, but in general with the same port you will make less money every year from a combination of more competition (both from other artists and thieves and now AI) plus the sites taking a bigger cut either by changing the terms, selling their own material, or through backdoor accounting shenanigans or just lower costs - although inflation seems to make everything more expensive, it doesn't seem to be the case for microstock which keeps getting cheaper either in terms of actual cost or better license deals or more subs for the same amount or all you can eat buffets.

So, if you want to make $ at this you are more likely to do that by working now rather than waiting a while when looking back these will be the good old days. It is sort of like planting a tree, the best time to do it is 10 years ago (or for microstock 15 years ago), but the next best time is now.

in my opinion this is true for all agencies except Adobe Stock.

I advise everyone to forget about agencies like Istock or SS.

first of all why would I ever sell content for 10c? or video at 0.25c? Why?
just because I can sometimes sell an image on SS for $50 doesn't mean I have to give away my content like that.

on Istock our entire portfolios are given away for nothing...low resolution,refund... but what . is that supposed to mean?but our contents are downloaded anyway and little or nothing ends up in our pockets,not even vectors are paid all 20% as promised,many are at 15%

enough is enough,we simply need to stop giving our content to these agencies if we want to hope that things will start to change.

the only agency accessible to all that has always shown us that it can improve the current condition of microstock is Adobe Stock.

we must try to support this agency,all the others were fine before in the past,today not anymore,now they are just using us.

I wouldn't worry about AI especially if you're a photographer,if you're an illustrator it's a little different,but equally you don't need to worry about AI.

I was talking to photographer friends who have been running photographic contests since 20 years and are earning more since AI has become accessible,the demand for real content is increasing from what I know.

the problem here is us,who see 300usd on Istock and we say"I have wow good month on Istock!" then let's go and see and we have sold 700 licenses very probably for this amount,but we still think it was a good month because we only see the $300

prices continue to fall because we continue to settle for the crumbs they throw at us.

I still have my active port on SS but by the end of the year I will probably deactivate it,so then if someone wants to download my content they have to do it on Adobe Stock because they won't find it anywhere else.

I firmly believe that if we all do this,things will start to change,but obviously I am also aware that it is a rather unlikely scenario,especially in the immediate future,because those who still earn enough on SS or Istock will continue to want to do it and will continue to look at the $300 instead of the 700 licenses sold to make those $300

the discussion of time on Adobe is important,then however I omitted a detail which is a professional secret,obviously I cannot tell the whole world everything in detail about my work or how I intend to manage my work in the future,
but yes,we definitely agree the best time is now,It's always better to keep working than to stop and start again in the future.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #414 on:** April 14, 2024, 13:05 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 14, 2024, 03:02

I still have my active port on SS but by the end of the year I will probably deactivate it,so then if someone wants to download my content they have to do it on Adobe Stock because they won't find it anywhere else.

I firmly believe that if we all do this,things will start to change...

When a mouse runs across my kitchen, at night, and eats a grain of rice, my cabinets and cupboards don't change. If I throw a rock into the ocean, the water level doesn't change.

If you or I, and most of the rest of us, remove all of our images from everywhere except Adobe, I don't see one buyer anywhere in the world, who will notice, or care. We have seen that hundreds or possibly thousands have removed their images from SS and IS, and nothing has changed.

Sorry to disagree, but, nothing will change, and things will not recover and SS won't suddenly relent their stupid resets and lower commissions, because of anything we do.

Quote from: pancaketom on April 13, 2024, 14:33

I would say time is the biggest factor against making a lot of money at microstock. I have no idea of the actual half life of images, but in general with the same port you will make less money every year from a combination of more competition (both from other artists and thieves and now AI) plus the sites taking a bigger cut either by changing the terms, selling their own material, or through backdoor accounting shenanigans or just lower costs - although inflation seems to make everything more expensive, it doesn't seem to be the case for microstock which keeps getting cheaper either in terms of actual cost or better license deals or more subs for the same amount or all you can eat buffets.

So, if you want to make $ at this you are more likely to do that by working now rather than waiting a while when looking back these will be the good old days. It is sort of like planting a tree, the best time to do it is 10 years ago (or for microstock 15 years ago), but the next best time is now.

Do images actually have a half-life or has the decline always been caused by competition?

If someone knows, that would be interesting data, vs theories and stock mythology based on what people hypothesize. Not a disagreement, just looking at the same truth, images don't keep earning as well, once they get older.

That covers it, the bold you wrote.

Yes, who knew that 2012 would be the "good old days" that we would never see again?

If things keep going downhill at the same rate as they are now, Microstock will be a historical note in 2032, instead of a way to make some side income. Someone remind me that I said that, if I'm still alive. We'll have an old-timers forum for, remember when we made money from Microstock. It will be named MSG = Microstock Geezers.

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #415 on:** April 15, 2024, 00:21 »

1. re: cobalt stating "2,000 ppl making $1k or less from adobe" - how did the ppl in the forum arrive @ that number? seems like pulling #'s out of their butt unless they have some direct inside knowledge. of course - I am not sure what the # would be - just curious how they arrived @ those conclusions?

2. re: rankings - looking, I think my "best" rank was around 200th or so - but just looking @ my numbers, in some ways that is rather irrelevant, because
a) "income" is not really related to rank... looking @ some of my stats, my (weekly) income was actually higher one week @ rank 1000 than when I was @ rank ~200...
b) "income" also depends on a whole bunch of factors... do you luck out and get people purchasing full one-time non sub licenses (i.e., so you get a $30 sale), or is it a whole bunch of $0.33 subs... (i.e., you could get "500" downloads, but @ $0.33/a pop = $165 usd. conversely, if they were all $30 net sales to you, that is 500 @ $30 each = $1500 usd).
c) in some cases it is very seasonal, i.e., say Easter, when "everyone" is downloading Easter bunnies & Jesus pictures, versus say mother's day where it is all about flowers, etc... so you get "lucky" because YOUR picture of Jesus with an Easter bunny is more popular than the other 5,000,000 people with pictures of Jesus & an Easter bunny...
d) There is some degree of "luck" involved. While there are certain principles that are important (good subject, good lighting, trending, good keywords, etc) - sometimes you just have a picture that due to the mysterious nature of adobe's algorithms takes off, while others don't... if I knew the "magic formula" - obviously lol I'd only produce consistent "best sellers"...

There are certain topics which I know are being pushed by the blackrock/vanguard/WEF/UN/etc (the 'pyschotic' board of people) agenda, which "could" make extra $$$, but just choose not to participate in (i.e., the gay/trans/miscegnation crap designed to try & break up families/etc to make ppl easier to control)... others though - don't care - and they just want $$$ and keep pumping out some weird gay/trans/miscegnation crap... simply because some of the weirder, more perverted crap is really being pushed hard... some profiles seem to be pure perverted trans/gay crap... but - I guess they have to live with that - "that" is their "legacy"...

Anyhoo...

Only thing I would take from "rankings" is:
a) if you are ranked "higher" - meaning your downloads are higher relative to everyone else - means specifically with the "adobe" crowd of customers - you are providing the content they want. (Just because it sells @ adobe doesn't mean it would necessarily sell as well elsewhere - the adobe crowd tends to have specific tastes/styles/etc).
b) if you are consistently ranked "high" - it probably means you are consistently doing something correctly that is in demand.
c) bragging rights to make yourself "feel" better if you see you are "doing better" than someone else...

Injustice for all · « **Reply #416 on:** April 15, 2024, 04:38 »

@Pete if you throw a stone into the ocean you add volume to the water so the level rises,in an imperceptible way but it rises,if you do it in a bucket of water you can notice the difference.

even your cabinets and cupboards change,everything changes with time everything is constantly changing,the universe is also continually expanding.

but apart from these physics-related discussions,in my opinion however,if millions of images are removed it changes,and everyone notices it.

but anyway Pete,it's a purely theoretical discussion,because it isn't applied in reality anyway.

as far as I'm concerned I prefer to sell only on Adobe,I think it's the best thing to do.

cobalt · « **Reply #417 on:** April 15, 2024, 04:53 »

@super

like I said, the number of less than 2000 producers making over 1k a month on Adobe was a „trust me bro“ thing, not a published reference or adobe quote.

I didn‘t believe it at the time, because there are so many people doing well on Adobe just in Germany alone with large ports from the Fotolia days.

Then people started sharing weekly positions in several places and I was suprised that not more people with larger ports had a high volume of sales.

Obviously the ranking thing is biased as well. Especially in groups where people have your adobe alias and can look up your port, if you are really doing well, do people share their ranks?

I am only doing it because I am „restarting“ my stock journey and many people keep asking me if it is worth it.

So I am sharing information freely, in the hope of learning something interesting myself.

And I think we have learned a lot by sharing data.

Obviously, don‘t find the idea useful, just don‘t do it

Wilm · « **Reply #418 on:** April 15, 2024, 09:07 »

For countless years downloads weren't below 0,38. This is what came in this afternoon - those 0,34 are becoming more and more...

Injustice for all · « **Reply #419 on:** April 15, 2024, 11:01 »

Quote from: Wilm on April 15, 2024, 09:07

For countless years downloads weren't below 0,38. This is what came in this afternoon - those 0,34 are becoming more and more...

I recently saw videos for 10 USD and images for 1.65 USD,my RPD on Adobe goes up,if you don't upload Wilm this is the result.

if I were you I would take advantage of your advantageous position,go back to uploading at least 30 contents a month,any type of content and you will see how everything goes back uphill,if you no longer upload anything the system starts to put you aside.

I am in a more disadvantaged position than you,I produce much more than you but I collect less than you,because you started before me,but I know that in a couple of years I will start to harvest the fruits of my work,just as I am now reaping the fruits of what I produced a year ago and more.

this in my opinion is one of the things that has changed a lot in recent years,as time passes we need more and more time to see the results of our work.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #420 on:** April 15, 2024, 11:15 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 15, 2024, 04:38

@Pete if you throw a stone into the ocean you add volume to the water so the level rises,in an imperceptible way but it rises,if you do it in a bucket of water you can notice the difference.

even your cabinets and cupboards change,everything changes with time everything is constantly changing,the universe is also continually expanding.

but apart from these physics-related discussions,in my opinion however,if millions of images are removed it changes,and everyone notices it.

but anyway Pete,it's a purely theoretical discussion,because it isn't applied in reality anyway.

as far as I'm concerned I prefer to sell only on Adobe,I think it's the best thing to do.

See above, that's your choice.

👍 We are independent and we make our own choices.

My point was, and you agree with the math and physics, no one will notice, because hundreds of millions of images will not be removed. You may get 100 or 1,000 contributor accounts to agree, but not enough to make SS or IS to take notice or care. So any hypothetical about change or the future, is also what you say, not reality in any way.

SS "462,572,973 stock photos, vectors, and illustrations are available royalty-free for download." If 5,000 people remove 5,000 images, that's a pebble in the ocean. 25 million images gone, and 437,000,000 images still there.

Meanwhile, trying to go back on topic to AS Rank...

Quote from: SuperPhoto on April 15, 2024, 00:21

Anyhoo...

Only thing I would take from "rankings" is:
a) if you are ranked "higher" - meaning your downloads are higher relative to everyone else - means specifically with the "adobe" crowd of customers - you are providing the content they want. (Just because it sells @ adobe doesn't mean it would necessarily sell as well elsewhere - the adobe crowd tends to have specific tastes/styles/etc).
b) if you are consistently ranked "high" - it probably means you are consistently doing something correctly that is in demand.
c) bragging rights to make yourself "feel" better if you see you are "doing better" than someone else...

Y E S

Is the rank supposed to show how many people are making $1,000 a month or more. I didn't quote the part that said less. But still, that's my question? More people used to make that $1,000 a month on some stock sites.

Rank is relative, and seems to be pretty stable. Yes, it's downloads not income. But for someone to watch their weekly rank, go up and down, they are just seeing the normal fluctuations based on demand and seasonal. The better people, lets just say Cobalt for example, will always be higher and stay in a general range of high and low, because they produce good work and have a large collection and have a diverse portfolio.

I have 1,000 more downloads now than I did months back, and my lifetime rank has made an insignificant change. Less that 200 on the Adobe scale. I'll assume that everyone else, around my range, has also increased 1,000 downloads in the same time and their rank had barely changed. What's to see?

It's Monday, I have no video, I upload when I'm in the mood, which might be one a week, or more when I have a better idea.

I care more about search position and page, than "Hey how am I doing, compared to the next person." My Rank is like views or exposure. There's no pay or benefit.

Wilm · « **Reply #421 on:** April 15, 2024, 12:30 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 15, 2024, 11:01

Quote from: Wilm on April 15, 2024, 09:07
For countless years downloads weren't below 0,38. This is what came in this afternoon - those 0,34 are becoming more and more...

I recently saw videos for 10 USD and images for 1.65 USD,my RPD on Adobe goes up,if you don't upload Wilm this is the result.

if I were you I would take advantage of your advantageous position,go back to uploading at least 30 contents a month,any type of content and you will see how everything goes back uphill,if you no longer upload anything the system starts to put you aside.

I am in a more disadvantaged position than you,I produce much more than you but I collect less than you,because you started before me,but I know that in a couple of years I will start to harvest the fruits of my work,just as I am now reaping the fruits of what I produced a year ago and more.

this in my opinion is one of the things that has changed a lot in recent years,as time passes we need more and more time to see the results of our work.

Why should the RPD go down, if I don't upload? If the number of downloads would go down, I would agree. But the RPD has nothing to do with it.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #422 on:** April 15, 2024, 13:54 »

Quote from: Wilm on April 15, 2024, 12:30

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 15, 2024, 11:01
Quote from: Wilm on April 15, 2024, 09:07
For countless years downloads weren't below 0,38. This is what came in this afternoon - those 0,34 are becoming more and more...

I recently saw videos for 10 USD and images for 1.65 USD,my RPD on Adobe goes up,if you don't upload Wilm this is the result.

if I were you I would take advantage of your advantageous position,go back to uploading at least 30 contents a month,any type of content and you will see how everything goes back uphill,if you no longer upload anything the system starts to put you aside.

I am in a more disadvantaged position than you,I produce much more than you but I collect less than you,because you started before me,but I know that in a couple of years I will start to harvest the fruits of my work,just as I am now reaping the fruits of what I produced a year ago and more.

this in my opinion is one of the things that has changed a lot in recent years,as time passes we need more and more time to see the results of our work.

Why should the RPD go down, if I don't upload? If the number of downloads would go down, I would agree. But the RPD has nothing to do with it.

because maybe you make more sales and most likely you also make higher sales?

but please satisfy my curiosity,are you telling me that even if you don't upload your download numbers remains unchanged?If so,how long has it been since you uploaded?

if I may ask of course.

Wilm · « **Reply #423 on:** April 15, 2024, 15:45 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 15, 2024, 13:54

Quote from: Wilm on April 15, 2024, 12:30
Quote from: Injustice for all on April 15, 2024, 11:01
Quote from: Wilm on April 15, 2024, 09:07
For countless years downloads weren't below 0,38. This is what came in this afternoon - those 0,34 are becoming more and more...

I recently saw videos for 10 USD and images for 1.65 USD,my RPD on Adobe goes up,if you don't upload Wilm this is the result.

if I were you I would take advantage of your advantageous position,go back to uploading at least 30 contents a month,any type of content and you will see how everything goes back uphill,if you no longer upload anything the system starts to put you aside.

I am in a more disadvantaged position than you,I produce much more than you but I collect less than you,because you started before me,but I know that in a couple of years I will start to harvest the fruits of my work,just as I am now reaping the fruits of what I produced a year ago and more.

this in my opinion is one of the things that has changed a lot in recent years,as time passes we need more and more time to see the results of our work.

Why should the RPD go down, if I don't upload? If the number of downloads would go down, I would agree. But the RPD has nothing to do with it.

because maybe you make more sales and most likely you also make higher sales?

but please satisfy my curiosity,are you telling me that even if you don't upload your download numbers remains unchanged?If so,how long has it been since you uploaded?

if I may ask of course.

Of course you may ask.

I've uploaded 13 images in the last six months - so 2 images a month on average. I now have a total of 1567 on Adobe Stock. If you like, I have increased my portfolio by 0.8% in this six-month period. These images have generated a total of 11 downloads - an extremely unsatisfactory result. My hit rate used to be much better.

Nevertheless, as I have already written, the download figures are fairly constant.

And because the download figures are constant, but less money is coming in, there is a problem with the RPD.

Of course, I could upload significantly more, perhaps sell a little more and earn the same money at the end of the day. But that doesn't change the deteriorating RPD. If 1,000 sales used to bring in $ 1,200 and now only bring in $ 750, it's clear that the RPD is clearly trending downwards.

Wilm · « **Reply #424 on:** April 15, 2024, 16:12 »

Quote from: Wilm on April 15, 2024, 15:45

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 15, 2024, 13:54
Quote from: Wilm on April 15, 2024, 12:30
Quote from: Injustice for all on April 15, 2024, 11:01
Quote from: Wilm on April 15, 2024, 09:07
For countless years downloads weren't below 0,38. This is what came in this afternoon - those 0,34 are becoming more and more...

I recently saw videos for 10 USD and images for 1.65 USD,my RPD on Adobe goes up,if you don't upload Wilm this is the result.

if I were you I would take advantage of your advantageous position,go back to uploading at least 30 contents a month,any type of content and you will see how everything goes back uphill,if you no longer upload anything the system starts to put you aside.

I am in a more disadvantaged position than you,I produce much more than you but I collect less than you,because you started before me,but I know that in a couple of years I will start to harvest the fruits of my work,just as I am now reaping the fruits of what I produced a year ago and more.

this in my opinion is one of the things that has changed a lot in recent years,as time passes we need more and more time to see the results of our work.

Why should the RPD go down, if I don't upload? If the number of downloads would go down, I would agree. But the RPD has nothing to do with it.

because maybe you make more sales and most likely you also make higher sales?

but please satisfy my curiosity,are you telling me that even if you don't upload your download numbers remains unchanged?If so,how long has it been since you uploaded?

if I may ask of course.

Of course you may ask.

I've uploaded 13 images in the last six months - so 2 images a month on average. I now have a total of 1567 on Adobe Stock. If you like, I have increased my portfolio by 0.8% in this six-month period. These images have generated a total of 11 downloads - an extremely unsatisfactory result. My hit rate used to be much better.

Nevertheless, as I have already written, the download figures are fairly constant.

And because the download figures are constant, but less money is coming in, there is a problem with the RPD.

Of course, I could upload significantly more, perhaps sell a little more and earn the same money at the end of the day. But that doesn't change the deteriorating RPD. If 1,000 sales used to bring in $ 1,200 and now only bring in $ 750, it's clear that the RPD is clearly trending downwards.

Based on today's RPD 1,000 downloads = $560.

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