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« Reply #1025 on: October 23, 2024, 06:14 »
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You have a very nice rank...well done!

Let us see if I can catch up with you at some point...;)

I think you are right, we can now confirm that the weekly rank is updated once a day and is indeed calculated based on total sales volume of the last 7 days.

My week end was very low, a lot less than the week ends before. Glad to see that the workdays are fine, 40-50 downloads at the moment.

But what I enjoy most is the wide spread of sales.

My dream port would have maybe 5000 files that each sell 10 times a year, maybe 20 bestsellers that sell more and another 10k files that sell a few times a year, or pick up during an algo rotation.

Of course this means I have to keep uploading content of good quality and relevance to a large buyer group. Not easy to do.


« Reply #1026 on: October 23, 2024, 17:06 »
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today was a slow day, especially in the us. about 40% less than yesterday or monday.

yes, it could be a normal fluctuation, but I guess i need to upload much more for the us market.

« Reply #1027 on: October 25, 2024, 08:15 »
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today was a slow day, especially in the us. about 40% less than yesterday or monday.

yes, it could be a normal fluctuation, but I guess i need to upload much more for the us market.

things also slowed down here.. but ranking not changing much. maybe everybody is going slower?

this week download (until friday morning): 194

« Reply #1028 on: October 25, 2024, 09:45 »
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similar sales here, 200 by friday afternoon

pos 2080

It has been a strange week. I have quite a few first time sales, even files that sell 3 or 5 times on their first sales day ever and then they go quiet again.

I think Adobe is doing a lot more algo rotations.

But longterm I think this is very good if more of y port gets a chance to see direct sunlight, it will bring more stability.

And again the effect on the day many people images go live I have more sales, even if the people images themselves are not yelling (yet).

People seem to be an eyeball magnet.

Hope you have a great week-end.



« Reply #1029 on: October 26, 2024, 19:20 »
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are you people also filling in your earnings in the forum poll?  is there any way to see how many people actually answer it?  judging by the wild swings i don't think its very many people and not every month but i've been trying to remember to do it when the istock figures arrive every month.

wds

« Reply #1030 on: October 26, 2024, 21:40 »
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are you people also filling in your earnings in the forum poll?  is there any way to see how many people actually answer it?  judging by the wild swings i don't think its very many people and not every month but i've been trying to remember to do it when the istock figures arrive every month.

If you hover your cursor over entry (e.g. "Adobestock") it shows how many people responded and the rating number.

« Reply #1031 on: October 27, 2024, 05:06 »
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I should start adding my numbers to the poll again. You are right, haven't done that in a long time.

« Reply #1032 on: October 28, 2024, 12:09 »
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I just wanted to confirm a sudden drop in sales for long term high ranked contributors. In last two weeks I fell from about 150th place weekly to around 250th. Sales down from 200 a day to 140 a day.
Constant uploads, mix of real and AI. I have been at Adobe (Fotolia) since about 2008.

Very discouraging, must have been some change in algorithm.


« Reply #1033 on: October 28, 2024, 12:23 »
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I just wanted to confirm a sudden drop in sales for long term high ranked contributors ...mix of real and AI
Very discouraging, must have been some change in algorithm.

Oooooooh, it's sooooo sad for AI indigestible mixture !!!!!!  :'( :'( :'(
« Last Edit: October 28, 2024, 12:49 by DiscreetDuck »

« Reply #1034 on: October 28, 2024, 12:52 »
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I just wanted to confirm a sudden drop in sales for long term high ranked contributors ...mix of real and AI
Very discouraging, must have been some change in algorithm.

Oooooooh, it's sooooo sad for AI indigestible mixture !!!!!!  :'( :'( :'(

AI is still only 20% of my port and these are not main sellers.

« Reply #1035 on: October 28, 2024, 14:03 »
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are you people also filling in your earnings in the forum poll?  is there any way to see how many people actually answer it?  judging by the wild swings i don't think its very many people and not every month but i've been trying to remember to do it when the istock figures arrive every month.

If you hover your cursor over entry (e.g. "Adobestock") it shows how many people responded and the rating number.

this is all i see when i hover, not the number of votes but just the position in the graph

wds

« Reply #1036 on: October 28, 2024, 15:59 »
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are you people also filling in your earnings in the forum poll?  is there any way to see how many people actually answer it?  judging by the wild swings i don't think its very many people and not every month but i've been trying to remember to do it when the istock figures arrive every month.

If you hover your cursor over entry (e.g. "Adobestock") it shows how many people responded and the rating number.

this is all i see when i hover, not the number of votes but just the position in the graph

I meant hovering over the column at the right of this webpage

« Reply #1037 on: October 28, 2024, 18:04 »
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are you people also filling in your earnings in the forum poll?  is there any way to see how many people actually answer it?  judging by the wild swings i don't think its very many people and not every month but i've been trying to remember to do it when the istock figures arrive every month.

If you hover your cursor over entry (e.g. "Adobestock") it shows how many people responded and the rating number.

ahh, sweet, thanks, i didn't notice that.  i'm assuming the rating and votes represent just the current month?
this is all i see when i hover, not the number of votes but just the position in the graph

I meant hovering over the column at the right of this webpage

« Reply #1038 on: October 29, 2024, 03:36 »
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I just wanted to confirm a sudden drop in sales for long term high ranked contributors. In last two weeks I fell from about 150th place weekly to around 250th. Sales down from 200 a day to 140 a day.
Constant uploads, mix of real and AI. I have been at Adobe (Fotolia) since about 2008.

Very discouraging, must have been some change in algorithm.

I hope you climb back up.

There was defintely a larger algo change, around 70% of the images I usually see in my standard searches have changed.

Also I do not always have 5 images on the front page, but sometimes just 2 or 3 and they are different file, often newer files, than those usually visible that are reliable sellers.

In some searches I am now back to 5 again but still with mostly newer images.

I don't mind algo rotations, but I prefer if they are done gently and more often to slowly move things around.

At the moment my rank is stable around 2040. I was hoping to be higher at this time of year but for 6700 files it is probably ok.

October is the first month that is 30% below my expectations for Adobe, even if it is still around 50% more than last year October.

« Reply #1039 on: October 29, 2024, 06:24 »
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No words...

 :-\ :-[ :( :-\

« Reply #1040 on: October 29, 2024, 06:50 »
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No words...

 :-\ :-[ :( :-\

funny, 6 downloads this week, 3,34 USD and position 18.400....

« Reply #1041 on: October 29, 2024, 11:39 »
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No words...

 :-\ :-[ :( :-\

I don't understand enough about the food market to give any suggestions.

But how are your sales on other agencies, Shutterstock, istock, pond5 for video?

Are your sales there steady or climbing this year?

Is this drop only on Adobe?

Or are you experiencing a similar drop everywhere?

If it is everywhere in a similar manner, then the clue would probably be more in the content you upload. Maybe it is not attracting enough new buyers. maybe you are missing an important trend.

But if your sales are doing well elsewhere, then I would think the issue is more related to something with Adobe algo changes.

Are ai and normal photos dropping at the same rate? Or is there a difference?

Do you have a lot of basics like objects/ meals isolated as a png or at least on white to get a good base level income?

In my port these are always very reliable sellers, often over years and at all agencies.

There must be a solution.

« Reply #1042 on: October 29, 2024, 12:31 »
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No words...

 :-\ :-[ :( :-\

Hmmm,

two things could be the problem, Sebastian.

Firstly, the proportion of AI images on the subject of food is increasing dramatically. For the search term pizza alone, one third is now AI-generated. At least, because I can imagine that some providers are uploading AI images but not labelling them as such. And some of the results are really not bad.

Secondly - I hope I'm allowed to write this - from my subjective point of view, you could optimize the copy space for your images.

« Reply #1043 on: October 29, 2024, 13:30 »
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Thank you so much Cobalt and Wilm.
I think I will try in the first phase to make a new base of white isolated objects.
When I started last year with AI, everything was going well. But now sales have dropped drastically.
Anyway, my sales are down on pretty much all my sites. Lately I've been concentrating more on AI.

Thanks again for your suggestions!!!

 :) :) :)

« Reply #1044 on: October 29, 2024, 13:52 »
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Good luck to you.

If your sales are dropping on all sites, then you know it has nothing to do with ai or ai competition. So that is a valuable information.

It is probably also nothing related to the Adobe algos, so again valuable information.

May I suggest to also add a steady stream of videos, especially video basics in food and cooking that food bloggers can easily cut into their own production?

Perhaps have a look at some very popular food bloggers and the style of clips they produce or video elements they use.

Then analyze how much of that is available on agencies and what is missing.

Like I said I dont specialize in food, but a large volume of basic files with dishes and ingredients and cooking stages on white should be a useful resource.

Maybe one subject sells better than others - vietnamese food or better italian or better chinese?

If the problem is not rooted in ai or adobe but in your port then it should be much easier to improve sales.

Happy shooting!
« Last Edit: October 29, 2024, 22:27 by cobalt »

« Reply #1045 on: October 29, 2024, 13:53 »
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Thank you so much Cobalt and Wilm.
I think I will try in the first phase to make a new base of white isolated objects.
When I started last year with AI, everything was going well. But now sales have dropped drastically.
Anyway, my sales are down on pretty much all my sites. Lately I've been concentrating more on AI.

Thanks again for your suggestions!!!

 :) :) :)

Youre welcome! I wish you much success and better business.
By the way, things are looking bad everywhere for me too.

« Reply #1046 on: October 30, 2024, 03:36 »
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I just wanted to confirm a sudden drop in sales for long term high ranked contributors. In last two weeks I fell from about 150th place weekly to around 250th. Sales down from 200 a day to 140 a day.
Constant uploads, mix of real and AI. I have been at Adobe (Fotolia) since about 2008.

Very discouraging, must have been some change in algorithm.

Is it already confirmed that Adobe has changed the algorithm? There was perhaps some larger discussion about this on the Adobe Stock discord? Since the end of August I've been seeing declines in my weekly earnings and weekly position, and the last 2 weeks have been downright dramatic! Since September 2023, my weekly position has regularly fluctuated between 200 and 400 and my earnings have oscillated between $500 and $700, averaging $560 per week during that period.

The last 2 weeks have seen a drop to almost 800 position and earnings of only 350 and 325. I can already see this week ain't gonna be any better.  I completely don't understand this, because until now I have never had such large swings, and Adobe Stock is a full-time job for me. I will mention that the daily amount of stock I upload has been constant for a long time :(

« Reply #1047 on: October 30, 2024, 04:15 »
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What are the positions of your files in your test searches? And what do the surrounding files look like?

I do these searches every day, it helps to understand and actually see files moving up and down.

Many of my files have changed, but at least now I am back to having 3-5 files in a good position in a given search word combo.

But a lot of the other files have changed as well, so I think this is a larger algo change.

Maybe they are testing something.

We know they will keep changing the algos again, so you just have to wait.

But if you do daily or weekly test searches you can always see which of your files are moving up and down.

eta

I have moved up a bit. This is the position I had hoped to have two weeks ago. My winter holiday images are beginning to wake up.

« Last Edit: October 30, 2024, 04:21 by cobalt »

« Reply #1048 on: October 30, 2024, 06:21 »
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I doubt that they have made specific changes to the algo. My observations have been that their algo includes a degree of randomisation.

« Reply #1049 on: October 30, 2024, 06:42 »
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The decline in sales is likely a result of a substantial increase in competition.

If the number of buyers remains relatively stable while the number of sellers increases significantly, the available market share must be distributed among more producers. This leads to lower income for each seller.

In the short term, one way to maintain the same income is to increase production compared to previous levels.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2024, 06:46 by DanielVisuals »


 

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