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« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2023, 10:54 »
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Is this title even grammatically correct?

OK, I just got about 100 AI generated photos accepted in the last few days.  3 of those AI photos have been sold once.  This is cool.  What a cool Adobe Stock and Midjourney!!  Maybe I'll sell all my cameras and lenses soon.

How would you characterize your "learning curve" in terms of time/effort to be able to generate "quality" stock imagery for your portfolio?


« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2023, 11:56 »
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So far it's difficult, because artists have a hard time proving that their specific image was used to train Midjourney's AI.

But there is talk about an EU law that will require developers of AI to make all material that was used to train an AI public. It's unclear if this will pass, so far it's just a draft. But if it happens, artists will have a better chance with lawsuits, because then at least they will be able to prove that their images/text/music/voice/etc. was even used.

 not practical for anyone w 100+ imag es on multiple sites, having to do individual searches & recording - all for .00001c per image

Not sure what you are talking about. I am talking about potential lawsuits of copyright violations. Winning a lawsuit against a big company for copyright violation should give you way more than .00001c.
>>> EU law that will require developers of AI to make all material that was used to train an AI public.

so a company makes hundreds of millions of images available - how do you find yours w/o searching for each of your images? for 100 image portffolio that's reasonable - for 10,000+? unlikely

additionally who is responsible when an AI developer buys their trained dataset from someone else (ie, never actually touched any image)

« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2023, 12:29 »
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So far it's difficult, because artists have a hard time proving that their specific image was used to train Midjourney's AI.

But there is talk about an EU law that will require developers of AI to make all material that was used to train an AI public. It's unclear if this will pass, so far it's just a draft. But if it happens, artists will have a better chance with lawsuits, because then at least they will be able to prove that their images/text/music/voice/etc. was even used.

 not practical for anyone w 100+ imag es on multiple sites, having to do individual searches & recording - all for .00001c per image

Not sure what you are talking about. I am talking about potential lawsuits of copyright violations. Winning a lawsuit against a big company for copyright violation should give you way more than .00001c.
>>> EU law that will require developers of AI to make all material that was used to train an AI public.

so a company makes hundreds of millions of images available - how do you find yours w/o searching for each of your images? for 100 image portffolio that's reasonable - for 10,000+? unlikely


How would I know, I do not know any specifics of how the EU plans to make this possible. I do not even think it will even ever happen. ChatGPT has already said they would rather withdraw from the European market than have to make the info public - Because they know very well that, since they used the WHOLE INTERNET making a list is hardly posisble and even if they did it would just make them extremely vulnerable to lawsuits. The same will go for the AI image creators that just let their AI crawl the whole internet for image training. How would you even make a list with ALL images of the internet? That's hardly possible. But the point of this law and why I would welcome it is that it would show these companies that they screwed up and used copyrighted material they had no right to use. If they just had bought licenses from for example microstock agencies they could make a complete list with image IDs and artists' names. But they did not do that, so they can't.

« Last Edit: October 07, 2023, 12:36 by Her Ugliness »

« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2023, 15:24 »
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... The same will go for the AI image creators that just let their AI crawl the whole internet for image training. How would you even make a list with ALL images of the internet? That's hardly possible. But the point of this law and why I would welcome it is that it would show these companies that they screwed up and used copyrighted material they had no right to use. If they just had bought licenses from for example microstock agencies they could make a complete list with image IDs and artists' names. But they did not do that, so they can't.

yes, the EU proposal would be interesting, but it also shows why the continual demand for payments for images used can't/won't happen - the deed is done. and most images don't have an artist's real name attached. and if they do, there's no way to contact them (slightly different when agencies use only their own collections to train)
 


 

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