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Agency Based Discussion => Adobe Stock => Topic started by: Dodie on March 15, 2018, 08:05

Title: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Dodie on March 15, 2018, 08:05
Can anyone please tell me what does "Subscription X" mean?
I got these dls today and I don't remember having them before.

On the downloads page there is no size like with other dls but on the detail page I see 3 dls, Subscription X, for 14.85 credits (16.5 - 1.65 tax).

As far as I know, on FT X size means EL-s for 100 credits. Is this some kind of pack of 3 EL-s?

Not that I am complaining,  I just don't understand.
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Stockmaan on March 15, 2018, 08:12
Today I have one.

License type         Subscription X
Download price    3 downloads
Credits earned    15.68

Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Dodie on March 15, 2018, 08:20
Mine were 16.5 before tax deduction (16.5 - 1.65 tax = 14.85).
Today I have one.

License type         Subscription X
Download price    3 downloads
Credits earned    15.68
Did you have these before?
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Stockmaan on March 15, 2018, 08:36
Mine were 16.5 before tax deduction (16.5 - 1.65 tax = 14.85).
Today I have one.

License type         Subscription X
Download price    3 downloads
Credits earned    15.68
Did you have these before?

No.

Here, one contributor have this sales.
https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/have-you-synced-your-fotolia-account-with-adobe-stock/msg508679/?topicseen#new (https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/have-you-synced-your-fotolia-account-with-adobe-stock/msg508679/?topicseen#new)

I send message to Mat too. We'll see.
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Dodie on March 15, 2018, 08:50
No.

Here, one contributor have this sales.
https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/have-you-synced-your-fotolia-account-with-adobe-stock/msg508679/?topicseen#new (https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/have-you-synced-your-fotolia-account-with-adobe-stock/msg508679/?topicseen#new)

I send message to Mat too. We'll see.

Thanks, I see that but Mat's answer was probably private (by email). It would be less time consuming to see the answers to our questions here too.
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Stockmaan on March 15, 2018, 12:19
Mine were 16.5 before tax deduction (16.5 - 1.65 tax = 14.85).
Today I have one.

License type         Subscription X
Download price    3 downloads
Credits earned    15.68
Did you have these before?

No.

Here, one contributor have this sales.
https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/have-you-synced-your-fotolia-account-with-adobe-stock/msg508679/?topicseen#new (https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/have-you-synced-your-fotolia-account-with-adobe-stock/msg508679/?topicseen#new)

I send message to Mat too. We'll see.

I got answer from Mat: "This is a custom sale for an Enterprise customer. Adobe Stock sales pay 33% commission of the price paid per image."


Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: JaenStock on March 15, 2018, 13:24
Is a mini Enchanced license
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Steveball on March 15, 2018, 13:32
2 x 16.50 here too, pleasant surprise for a change.
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Dodie on March 15, 2018, 13:39
Mine were 16.5 before tax deduction (16.5 - 1.65 tax = 14.85).
Today I have one.

License type         Subscription X
Download price    3 downloads
Credits earned    15.68
Did you have these before?

No.

Here, one contributor have this sales.
https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/have-you-synced-your-fotolia-account-with-adobe-stock/msg508679/?topicseen#new (https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/have-you-synced-your-fotolia-account-with-adobe-stock/msg508679/?topicseen#new)

I send message to Mat too. We'll see.

I got answer from Mat: "This is a custom sale for an Enterprise customer. Adobe Stock sales pay 33% commission of the price paid per image."

Thanks for letting me know Stockmann. Nice surprise.
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: obj owl on March 15, 2018, 13:48
Pleasant, nice, exiting news, I guess what you don't know won't hurt you.
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Dodie on March 15, 2018, 15:30
Pleasant, nice, exiting news, I guess what you don't know won't hurt you.
Or accept what you can't change.
Why don't you tell us what you know?
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: obj owl on March 15, 2018, 15:33
Pleasant, nice, exiting news, I guess what you don't know won't hurt you.
Or accept what you can't change.
Why don't you tell us what you know?

I know that when an agency keeps you in the dark it's not in your interest.
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: panicAttack on March 16, 2018, 03:02
question to Mat:

I got 2x 11.55 of those x subscription sales last few days

It's nice to finally see some larger sales but how can I get 11.55 for extended licence on adobe?

30% of 79 is 23.7

23.7 - 30% tax withholding is 16.5

looks like you took tax withholding 2 times because:

16.55 - another 30% tax withhold is about 11.55

how can this be?
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Dumc on March 16, 2018, 08:49
Pleasant, nice, exiting news, I guess what you don't know won't hurt you.
Or accept what you can't change.
Why don't you tell us what you know?

I know that when an agency keeps you in the dark it's not in your interest.

I'd say that getting 94€ for a single sale is in my interest.
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: obj owl on March 16, 2018, 09:18
Pleasant, nice, exiting news, I guess what you don't know won't hurt you.
Or accept what you can't change.
Why don't you tell us what you know?

I know that when an agency keeps you in the dark it's not in your interest.

I'd say that getting 94€ for a single sale is in my interest.

Nice?
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Dodie on March 16, 2018, 10:59
question to Mat:

I got 2x 11.55 of those x subscription sales last few days

It's nice to finally see some larger sales but how can I get 11.55 for extended licence on adobe?

30% of 79 is 23.7

23.7 - 30% tax withholding is 16.5

looks like you took tax withholding 2 times because:

16.55 - another 30% tax withhold is about 11.55

how can this be?
This is not a normal extended license. Check your stat again and you will see that the buyer downloaded the same image 3 times (I don't know why).
My two images were not downloaded before still the stat shows three dls, so these 16.5 (- tax) credits were payed for 3 dls (see my second image).

Either it is some promotional package or something worse.  I don't complain because 16.5: 3= 5.5 is still better than no dl. However I would like to know what is happening.
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Dodie on March 16, 2018, 11:06
I know that when an agency keeps you in the dark it's not in your interest.
I agree with you but name one agency that doesn't keep us in the dark.
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: panicAttack on March 16, 2018, 11:09
question to Mat:

I got 2x 11.55 of those x subscription sales last few days

It's nice to finally see some larger sales but how can I get 11.55 for extended licence on adobe?

30% of 79 is 23.7

23.7 - 30% tax withholding is 16.5

looks like you took tax withholding 2 times because:

16.55 - another 30% tax withhold is about 11.55

how can this be?
This is not a normal extended license. Check your stat again and you will see that the buyer downloaded the same image 3 times (I don't know why).
My two images were not downloaded before still the stat shows three dls, so these 16.5 (- tax) credits were payed for 3 dls (see my second image).

Either it is some promotional package or something worse.  I don't complain because 16.5: 3= 5.5 is still better than no dl. However I would like to know what is happening.

Those 2 sales are from 2 different images (not the same image), I am using fotolia site/interface and one image is sold only once and other it says it was 3 downloads(like you said):

License type Subscription XXL
Download price 1 download
Credits earned 11.55

Problem is that it looks like they are taking 30% tax withhold on adobe, and then again on fotolia site because it is only way for 30% of 79.99 dollars to become 11.55 (I explained in my first post).

Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Dodie on March 16, 2018, 11:14
Problem is that it looks like they are taking 30% tax withhold on adobe, and then again on fotolia site because it is only way for 30% of 79.99 dollars to become 11.55 (I explained in my first post).

If that is true than we have a big problem.

The license type is also strange, either it is a subscription or a XXL credit sale. Neither of these two are EL-s but the "subscription X" could be.
I am just guessing.
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Fairplay on March 16, 2018, 11:39
question to Mat:

I got 2x 11.55 of those x subscription sales last few days

It's nice to finally see some larger sales but how can I get 11.55 for extended licence on adobe?

30% of 79 is 23.7

23.7 - 30% tax withholding is 16.5

looks like you took tax withholding 2 times because:

16.55 - another 30% tax withhold is about 11.55

how can this be?
This is not a normal extended license. Check your stat again and you will see that the buyer downloaded the same image 3 times (I don't know why).
My two images were not downloaded before still the stat shows three dls, so these 16.5 (- tax) credits were payed for 3 dls (see my second image).

Either it is some promotional package or something worse.  I don't complain because 16.5: 3= 5.5 is still better than no dl. However I would like to know what is happening.

Those 2 sales are from 2 different images (not the same image), I am using fotolia site/interface and one image is sold only once and other it says it was 3 downloads(like you said):

License type Subscription XXL
Download price 1 download
Credits earned 11.55

Problem is that it looks like they are taking 30% tax withhold on adobe, and then again on fotolia site because it is only way for 30% of 79.99 dollars to become 11.55 (I explained in my first post).

EL on Adobe is 50 credits no matter what price you put on FT. You get 33% of 50 = 16.5 - 30% tax = 11.55.
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Dodie on March 16, 2018, 11:48
EL on Adobe is 50 credits no matter what price you put on FT. You get 33% of 50 = 16.5 - 30% tax = 11.55.

Are you sure? Mat said at this other thread that EL-s are 79.99, so which one is it now?
http://www.microstockgroup.com/31290/31290/msg508528/#msg508528 (http://www.microstockgroup.com/31290/31290/msg508528/#msg508528)
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: panicAttack on March 16, 2018, 11:55
EL on Adobe is 50 credits no matter what price you put on FT. You get 33% of 50 = 16.5 - 30% tax = 11.55.

Are you sure? Mat said at this other thread that EL-s are 79.99, so which one is it now?
[url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/31290/31290/msg508528/#msg508528[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/31290/31290/msg508528/#msg508528[/url])


Mat said it's 33% of 79.99$

Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Fairplay on March 16, 2018, 12:21
EL on Adobe is 50 credits no matter what price you put on FT. You get 33% of 50 = 16.5 - 30% tax = 11.55.

Are you sure? Mat said at this other thread that EL-s are 79.99, so which one is it now?
[url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/31290/31290/msg508528/#msg508528[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/31290/31290/msg508528/#msg508528[/url])


Hmm, I just checked and the EL price really is 79.99. I'm pretty sure there was some info about the 50 credits EL price but can't find it right now.
The price of these sales is obviously 50 credits. Last week I had 3 of those sales 16.5 - 5% tax = 15.68
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: panicAttack on March 19, 2018, 07:38
question to Mat:

I got 2x 11.55 of those x subscription sales last few days

It's nice to finally see some larger sales but how can I get 11.55 for extended licence on adobe?

30% of 79 is 23.7

23.7 - 30% tax withholding is 16.5

looks like you took tax withholding 2 times because:

16.55 - another 30% tax withhold is about 11.55

how can this be?

need to quote myself. hope I will see some answers from Mat.
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: derek on March 20, 2018, 10:26
Just amazing that Adobe lends itself to keeping contributors in the dark!!  I thought somehow they stood above that being the industries standards in programs!  but Nope!
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: MatHayward on March 20, 2018, 12:21
Hi All,

The sales that are currently labeled "Subscription X" in Fotolia and "Extended" in Adobe Stock are from Enterprise sales. Enterprise deals have custom plans and you receive 33% of the purchase price. The sale information on your account page will be changed to “Custom” in the near future.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: Desintegrator on March 20, 2018, 15:54
Hi All,

The sales that are currently labeled "Subscription X" in Fotolia and "Extended" in Adobe Stock are from Enterprise sales. Enterprise deals have custom plans and you receive 33% of the purchase price. The sale information on your account page will be changed to “Custom” in the near future.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

Is it possible to know under what kind of conditions are those sold?  What kind of license do they get? Is it just standard? Shutterstock also has mysterious enterprise sales, but many times we get $75 - $125 for those, so we tend to accept the shadyness a bit more
Title: Re: what are "Subscription X" downloads?
Post by: panicAttack on March 21, 2018, 08:29
Hi All,

The sales that are currently labeled "Subscription X" in Fotolia and "Extended" in Adobe Stock are from Enterprise sales. Enterprise deals have custom plans and you receive 33% of the purchase price. The sale information on your account page will be changed to “Custom” in the near future.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

Mat, can you please answer this?

I got 2x 11.55 of those x subscription sales last few days

It's nice to finally see some larger sales but how can I get 11.55 for extended licence on adobe?

30% of 79 is 23.7

23.7 - 30% tax withholding is 16.5

looks like you took tax withholding 2 times because:

16.55 - another 30% tax withhold is about 11.55

how can this be?

Thanks