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Title: wondering what's going on at FT ...
Post by: pictureman75 on April 07, 2011, 05:29
Hello,
does somebody know what's going on there? Serach engine problems, no or very low sales for new content, leaving of big players ... and some other of the biggest players have no more uploads sice about 10 days ...
very strange and alarming  >:(
regards,
outdoorfreak
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: rubyroo on April 07, 2011, 06:05
some other of the biggest players have no more uploads sice about 10 days ...

Really?

No wonder my sales have tanked there.  Thanks for the notification.
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: pictureman75 on April 07, 2011, 06:13
yes, really ... you can check this if you go to the portfolios of Yuri, Monkeybusiness, Andres Rodriguez (and some more) - choose date (one week or one month)  and sort by date ... all of them had there last uploads round about march 26th ...
I cannot believe that all of them are on holidays at the same time ;-)
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: franky242 on April 07, 2011, 14:16
I can only say I have decent sales here and got new photos accepted only yesterday. Being far from professional or "big" however...
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: fotografer on April 07, 2011, 14:28
some other of the biggest players have no more uploads sice about 10 days ...

Really?

No wonder my sales have tanked there.  Thanks for the notification.
How would the biggies not uploading make your sales tank?  If anything it should have the opposite affect as your new images wouldn't have to compete with theirs.
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: lisafx on April 07, 2011, 16:05
yes, really ... you can check this if you go to the portfolios of Yuri, Monkeybusiness, Andres Rodriguez (and some more) - choose date (one week or one month)  and sort by date ... all of them had there last uploads round about march 26th ...
I cannot believe that all of them are on holidays at the same time ;-)

Well, I am not in that hallowed company, but I haven't uploaded anything since March 25th.  No conspiracy in my case.  Just spending time getting my portfolio on new sites. 

I would bet that the holdup is in reviews.  Probably those folks uploaded since then, but the images haven't been reviewed yet.  Just a guess.
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: luissantos84 on April 07, 2011, 16:30
on my relative low sales I can say that FT/SS/123RF are the only ones holding sales pretty well
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: rubyroo on April 07, 2011, 18:01
How would the biggies not uploading make your sales tank?  If anything it should have the opposite affect as your new images wouldn't have to compete with theirs.

Don't worry I'm going doolally. 
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: fotografer on April 07, 2011, 18:04
How would the biggies not uploading make your sales tank?  If anything it should have the opposite affect as your new images wouldn't have to compete with theirs.

Don't worry I'm going doolally. 
Lol I think most of us are :D
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: jbarber873 on April 07, 2011, 18:07
How would the biggies not uploading make your sales tank?  If anything it should have the opposite affect as your new images wouldn't have to compete with theirs.

Don't worry I'm going doolally. 

I'm not sure what doolally is, but i think it describes me as well ;D
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: fotografer on April 07, 2011, 18:08
Doolally means slightly crazy. :)
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: jbarber873 on April 07, 2011, 18:10
Doolally means slightly crazy. :)

 Then I was right!
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: Xalanx on April 07, 2011, 18:20
I'm not overly pleased seeing a bucket of XXL and XL sub sales today...  >:(
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: rubyroo on April 07, 2011, 18:31
Don't worry I'm going doolally. 
Lol I think most of us are :D

 :D :D :D

That's a relief!

Welcome to the club, Jbarber  ;D
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: lagereek on April 15, 2011, 05:21
Most unfortunately it seams that FT, is the next one to screw up their search, Oh well, if they wanna go down the IS avenue and generate sales to other sites, be my guest.
No wonder SS and DT, are clever enough not to tweak their searches too much.
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: Mellimage on April 15, 2011, 08:54
views are ok for me, sales stable. :)
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: gostwyck on April 15, 2011, 10:14
Only yesterday I was assessing how well my newest 100 images (uploaded over the last 3 months) had sold so far on FT and others. The results were extraordinary;

FT - 6 sales
Istock - 30 sales
SS - 283 sales

It appears that new images on FT are emerging so far down the best match that they're unlikely ever to be seen by buyers. It's a pity because new images often used to do very well on FT. Right now it hardly seems worth uploading to them.
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: Pixart on April 15, 2011, 11:33
I am trying desperately hard to find a reason to stay at FT.  I don't know how I can have a RPD at a true subscription site of more than double what I get per download at FT.  Every month it gets lower and lower and lower.  46 cents average so far in April.  Not to mention that new photos are languishing.  I'll try to stay till the end of the year, but with all their BS they should at least be competitive.  70% subs and xs dls just doesn't cut it for all the BS you have to endure with them. 
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: Dreamframer on April 15, 2011, 11:57
I sold one XS standard at Fotolia and earned only 16 cents.

License Type    XS Standard
Credits    1
Credits earned    0.161000

Not to mention 22 and 23 cents sales that I have...
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: Allsa on April 15, 2011, 12:20
I'm getting really discouraged with them, too. Sales are dropping, new uploads just sit there, and with the commission cut on top of that I wonder why I keep uploading. If they used the increased revenue from the commission cut for advertising and promotion - resulting in more sales volume - I wouldn't resent it nearly as much. As it is, it just looks like yet another greedy money grab. I'd like to see the bad karma catch up with Fotolia and iStock, so that the agencies that pay a fair commission, like DT and SS, can surge ahead and take over the top slots. That would be poetic justice.
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: stockmarketer on April 15, 2011, 12:56
Afraid I'm going to be a lone dissenting voice on Fotolia again.  I just had my BDE yesterday, and overall sales have been on a pretty quick climb for the past several months.  Steadily uploading everyday... no stopping here.
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: lagereek on April 15, 2011, 13:17
Sales are dropping because theyve screwed around with the best match (search) thats why. Apart from that Im doing very well with FT, have always done, I think its a great agency.
Thats why im a bit pissed off when they start messing with the search and for no reason.
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: RT on April 15, 2011, 18:02
Only yesterday I was assessing how well my newest 100 images (uploaded over the last 3 months) had sold so far on Fotolia and others. The results were extraordinary;

Fotolia - 6 sales
Istock - 30 sales
Shutterstock - 283 sales

It appears that new images on Fotolia are emerging so far down the best match that they're unlikely ever to be seen by buyers. It's a pity because new images often used to do very well on Fotolia. Right now it hardly seems worth uploading to them.

That pretty much echoes my recent experience on Fotolia, out of my last 200 uploads only 30 have sold.

I don't know what's happened there but speaking to a few of the top sellers in microstock we are all experiencing more or less the same thing.
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: lisafx on April 15, 2011, 18:38
Just checked my last two hundred uploads, dating back to January 27th.  21 sales, so around 10% of them have sold.  

My sales are down too, and my weekly rank has been dropping like a rock. 
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: Mantis on April 15, 2011, 18:44
Only yesterday I was assessing how well my newest 100 images (uploaded over the last 3 months) had sold so far on Fotolia and others. The results were extraordinary;

Fotolia - 6 sales
Istock - 30 sales
Shutterstock - 283 sales

It appears that new images on Fotolia are emerging so far down the best match that they're unlikely ever to be seen by buyers. It's a pity because new images often used to do very well on Fotolia. Right now it hardly seems worth uploading to them.

That pretty much echoes my recent experience on Fotolia, out of my last 200 uploads only 30 have sold.

I don't know what's happened there but speaking to a few of the top sellers in microstock we are all experiencing more or less the same thing.

Same here.  Sales basically went away...I am 75% down in usual sales based on a 12 month average.  Sure looks like they are trying a bastardized version of the IS debacle.  Between the two I am down hundreds per month.
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on April 15, 2011, 18:58
Just checked my last two hundred uploads, dating back to January 27th.  21 sales, so around 10% of them have sold. 

I know it's hard to make comparisons, but is that less than, about the same as or more than you would have expected? To me it sounds low, especially for an emerald with a proven track record.

I looked at what you uploaded to IS and if I counted right, for the first page (sorted by age which goes back to Jan 28th) you had 93 sales.
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: lisafx on April 15, 2011, 19:18
Just checked my last two hundred uploads, dating back to January 27th.  21 sales, so around 10% of them have sold. 

I know it's hard to make comparisons, but is that less than, about the same as or more than you would have expected? To me it sounds low, especially for an emerald with a proven track record.

I looked at what you uploaded to IS and if I counted right, for the first page (sorted by age which goes back to Jan 28th) you had 93 sales.

It seems very low.  I was actually quite surprised more of them hadn't sold on FT.  But my sales there overall have taken a hit lately.  Not long ago they were the fastest growing site for me. 

I think their prior default search had emeralds and above heavily weighted toward the front, but maybe it's not like that anymore. 

I don't keep up with the best match changes at all the sites.  Only reason I notice the ones at IS is because the drops are so severe from day to day and week to week.  If it was gradual I wouldn't notice there either. 
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: lagereek on April 16, 2011, 00:16
I do!  I always monitor the best match changes at the major sites, you have to, the search is the heart of the business. An agency stand or fall with their best match, simple as that.

best.
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: fotografer on April 16, 2011, 03:22
I'm seeing similar results to the rest of you.  March this year was about 40% of March last year and new uploads don't get a look in.  Fotolia had consistently been my highest earner for the last couple of years but now it has dropped to 4th position!!
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: fatalsweets on April 17, 2011, 22:00
New to fotolia, start early this year. Hardly make any sales. I put the same keywords as other sites, but no body view them. don't know why? same as dreamstime? But other site was doing ok.  ???
Why is that? What does Dreamstime and Fotolia sale best? Am I put the wrong images? ???
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: leaf on April 18, 2011, 01:25
New to fotolia, start early this year. Hardly make any sales. I put the same keywords as other sites, but no body view them. don't know why? same as dreamstime? But other site was doing ok.  ???
Why is that? What does Dreamstime and Fotolia sale best? Am I put the wrong images? ???

it's not you, it's them.  New images just have a really hard time selling at Fotolia.
Title: Re: wondering what's going on at Fotolia ...
Post by: fatalsweets on April 18, 2011, 05:23
New to fotolia, start early this year. Hardly make any sales. I put the same keywords as other sites, but no body view them. don't know why? same as dreamstime? But other site was doing ok.  ???
Why is that? What does Dreamstime and Fotolia sale best? Am I put the wrong images? ???

it's not you, it's them.  New images just have a really hard time selling at Fotolia.

Thank you. Good to know there is not some thing wrong with my images.
Do they know that? They should fix it.