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You're probably overthinking this one.
We see lost sales because the clip isn't 4k, because it's not ProRes or better, because it's not 23.98 or 24 but I've never had anyone ever ask for C4k over UHD or the other way around.
Quote from: PeterChigmaroff on November 17, 2019, 20:10You're probably overthinking this one.I agree.Quote from: PeterChigmaroff on November 17, 2019, 20:10 We see lost sales because the clip isn't 4k, because it's not ProRes or better, because it's not 23.98 or 24 but I've never had anyone ever ask for C4k over UHD or the other way around.Do you mean that buyers have contacted you, asking for ProRes, 4k, and/or 23.98p and you didn't have it, and therefore they didn't buy? Or do you THINK you lost sales?---The last three months I've sold around 50 clips on Pond5.94% were HD.6% 4k.36% of the HD sales had 4k (ProRes) versions available. 64% were HD native.---From this small sample I can just assume that MOST buyers don't care about 4k, at least not enough to spend more $$$. They also MIGHT not care that much about getting ProRes since the h264 downconverted versions worked fine.Of course, very small sample, and I don't have time to go back further right now, but right now it seems HD h264 is still fine for most, with a few "advanced" buyers wanting 4k.The download time alone for, say, 30 ProRes HQ 4k clips would be a couple of hours, which may or may not be too slow for some customers.---Just a bit of guesswork here... Anyone with conflicting data?
I've just realized the HD downsampled versions of 4K clips are offered with very small file sizes Shutterstock.A 10second clip is 8 Megabytes. That's around 6mbit/s bitrate.
Quote from: Desintegrator on November 18, 2019, 13:12I've just realized the HD downsampled versions of 4K clips are offered with very small file sizes Shutterstock.A 10second clip is 8 Megabytes. That's around 6mbit/s bitrate.Where do you see that? I see from around 25-80 mbit/sec depending on the content.100 mbit for HD is good, but in reality, NEAR perfect quality can be obtained with 100 mbit for 4k, which most smaller cameras film with (GH4/GH5 100/150 mbit) and that 4k quality is quite pristine. No, not as good as a ProRes capture of course, but very good.
Quote from: increasingdifficulty on November 18, 2019, 13:36Quote from: Desintegrator on November 18, 2019, 13:12I've just realized the HD downsampled versions of 4K clips are offered with very small file sizes Shutterstock.A 10second clip is 8 Megabytes. That's around 6mbit/s bitrate.Where do you see that? I see from around 25-80 mbit/sec depending on the content.100 mbit for HD is good, but in reality, NEAR perfect quality can be obtained with 100 mbit for 4k, which most smaller cameras film with (GH4/GH5 100/150 mbit) and that 4k quality is quite pristine. No, not as good as a ProRes capture of course, but very good.If i click on my older 4k clips, the HD version file size is around 100-200 MegabytesOn clips uploaded nowadays it's 8-10 Megabytes...I understand the 100 mbit/s is not absolutely necessary for good quality HD, bzt 6 seems way too low