Thats true......

Thats why i said not only "non microstock" photos. Off course those you have on micro you could put also on Alamy. But it is good to have next to that a special portfolio. This will also attract costumers that wants a more "exclusive" photo that is not spreaded all over the internet. 80% percent of my sales are from not micro photos.

If I ever get a sale there, then it might pass FT. 

I've just got my first sale...
Compared to several hundred monthly sales on SS and FT.

I've started uploading to Alamy a few months ago.
Many stated here that sales will start very slowly, but they will be regular. So, I keep uploading.

Quote from: MircoV on March 24, 2016, 03:53

Thats true......

Thats why i said not only "non microstock" photos. Off course those you have on micro you could put also on Alamy. But it is good to have next to that a special portfolio. This will also attract costumers that wants a more "exclusive" photo that is not spreaded all over the internet. 80% percent of my sales are from not micro photos.

Can I ask you a few things? So 80% coming from exclusive content or just RM that you submit to several macro sites? What's the approximate ratio of RF/RM files you have with Alamy?

And, if you have an image that is exclusive with Alamy do you set the license as RM exclusive or just RM? I remember you or someone else said that editorial can not go as RM exclusive but now I mean the non editorial content..


Thank you, just trying to figure out a better strategy with Alamy now.

Hey Lana,

No, they are just coming from RM photos without being exclusive. RM means that the photos are not on Micro by nature. So for many customers it is a advantage. They dont need to share the photo with hundred others plus the possibility to buy a exclusive license. Also a RM license is less restricted in therms of print runs comparing to RF. So it suits the publishing world much better.

No idea what partner (?) site it is but it appears every 29th of the month.
March
2 sales at 2.70.
Woohooooo.
The only sales on Alamy this month which has simply DIED since last autumn for me.

This month, Alamy poll numbers look over-inflated again.
I have the feeling that most people do not post their true royalties, but the gross amount.
Even so, the numbers are too good to be true in my opinion  Someone is playing games here.

Like everything in the poll, we don't know enough to be able to deduce anything. I do know that an msg member was over there persuading people to poll their Alamy scores here. I wouldn't be surprised if people are posting their gross sales figures, as that's what generally happens on Alamy. Also we have no idea what size their ports are. Some, but not all, of those who have already reported good months there have ports of over 10k or over 20K.
I'll just say that with a 4:3 port size of different images on iS and Alamy, iS, even with the huge fall from previous years, made me almost 3.5x more than Alamy in March, credit sales alone, with subs etc still to come in.
I'm torn between polling my iS or my Alamy amount, as I can't poll both.

Like everything in the poll, we don't know enough to be able to deduce anything. I do know that an msg member was over there persuading people to poll their Alamy scores here. I wouldn't be surprised if people are posting their gross sales figures, as that's what generally happens on Alamy. Also we have no idea what size their ports are. Some, but not all, of those who have already reported good months there have ports of over 10k or over 20K.
I'll just say that with a 4:3 port size of different images on iS and Alamy, iS, even with the huge fall from previous years, made me almost 3.5x more than Alamy in March, credit sales alone, with subs etc still to come in.
I'm torn between polling my iS or my Alamy amount, as I can't poll both.

I have roughly similar results as you do - but bear in mind your Alamy images are all RM, as are mine (at least, I assume they are); those with RF images may be doing better.

That said, I too find it hard to credit the figures shown in the poll results as being a realistic comparison.

I feel Alamy is a bit of a different game than the typical microstock sites and I think people have a  pretty wide range of results.  I'm certain there are a lot of people making good money with Alamy, I'm not one of them unfortunately.  If you shoot lots of RM or other content that sells well on Alamy I don't think it is surprising to have sales above $2500/month. 

Quote from: pkphotos on April 01, 2016, 13:34

Those Alamy results are totally false. I am with several agencies and know the capabilities of Alamy. Compared to most agencies they severely under perform. Someone is entering false data on Alamy for whatever reason.

Alamy has currently 110 votes in this poll (Shutterstock 169, Istock 132 to put it into perspective).
Must be a lot of "someones" working together to skew the results.

Changed already. SS 174, Alamy 114, IS 137, ft 160. Maybe it was the campaign for Alamy forum to come vote. I used to make much more there then any Micro, but in two years SS has passed Alamy for me, while Alamy has dropped. I'll look forward to the new keyword box and start uploading more.

Quote from: dirkr on April 01, 2016, 13:51

Quote from: pkphotos on April 01, 2016, 13:34

Those Alamy results are totally false. I am with several agencies and know the capabilities of Alamy. Compared to most agencies they severely under perform. Someone is entering false data on Alamy for whatever reason.

Alamy has currently 110 votes in this poll (Shutterstock 169, Istock 132 to put it into perspective).
Must be a lot of "someones" working together to skew the results.

Good point, however knowing the performance of my own Alamy account over several years, as well as observing the contributor monthly reported earnings string on the Alamy forum (over a long period of time), I still find these results barely credible. They were for so long middle tier and within the last couple of months they're suddenly near the top. I'm sure many people are as dubious as I am.

Not really! Last month I had a large $3.8k private sale and I assigned it to self-hosted. I could see the rank of self-hosted jumping, immediately, from the  bottom section to just under the low tier. Therefore, a couple of self promoting, fake accounts could really alter this poll.

I also have to add that i can not believe that Alamy is a low performer by nature. There are 40.000 contributors and over 70 million images, Why so many contributors would submit that many images to an Agency if no decent money can be made? Again i think it is just a question of knowing how to keyword and not give up on uploading because the system is different.

I also have to add that i can not believe that Alamy is a low performer by nature. There are 40.000 contributors and over 70 million images, Why so many contributors would submit that many images to an Agency if no decent money can be made? Again i think it is just a question of knowing how to keyword and not give up on uploading because the system is different.

Alamy is a well known poor performer. Here's a link to the Alamy forum where people report on their monthly earnings.

http://discussion.alamy.com/index.php?/topic/5592-march-wow/

My Getty account outperforms my Alamy by about 1500%. My micro outperforms Alamy by about 1000% I have a decent well rounded Alamy portfolio of 7000 images.

Also, can I put something as RM on Alamy if it was previously RF in other agencies (but was removed from everywhere else except Alamy since then)?

Yes, but if it sold previously as RF, you need to make notes of that, in case the very unlikely event happens that someone wants exclusive rights and you'd need to reveal that fact. From what I've read, that's relatively very rare on Alamy, but happens sometimes.