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SpaceStockFootage

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« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2016, 02:53 »
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Also i noticed Envato climbing up. Soon passing dreamstime.

That's probably partly due to me. I filled in the poll for the first time last week, for Feb, and I make a decent chunk of my earnings from Envato.

Thanks for pointing. That sounds like these poll results are not so homogeneous and consistent. If a single big seller participates in poll, it can change the results to any direction.

I'm just guessing here, but I get the impression Envato isn't that popular with contributors here... so if not many people sell there, it's possible for one 'big seller' to tip the scales a bit. I'm assuming that because most of us are all on the big four, then those are going to be a lot more accurate, as there's more of a spread of earnings. Possibly. I could be completely wrong!


Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2016, 02:58 »
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Seems that way, especially lately when there seems to be less of the older contributors about. With smaller portfolios one EL can throw out your results.

authenticcreations

« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2016, 03:21 »
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I think it is the case. Thats why i mentioned before that Agency like Alamy will not get the spot on the Poll that it deserves. It is a Poll for microstock contributors and Alamy has in first place "traditional contributors" where the main money is made. Those traditional contributors are not putting their results on the poll what gives a wrong view about what it is capable off. Next to that not all Microstock contributors are fully participating in Alamy since they system is different and gives other expectations.

The same you can say for other agencies. I am quit sure if everyone would submit everywhere and giving their result on the poll the ranking could look different. Look at Getty Images. It is on the low earners...... why? because Getty contributors are not putting their earnings here. It is not mircostock. The same applies half for Alamy.

It is like you put a Rocker at a Hip Hop competition with hip hop fans. It doesnt matter how good the Rocker performs in his Rock world he will never win the Hip Hop competition.

Mirco

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« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2016, 03:40 »
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It is like you put a Rocker at a Hip Hop competition with hip hop fans. It doesnt matter how good the Rocker performs in his Rock world he will never win the Hip Hop competition.

Mirco

Run DMC and Aerosmith combo might do ok!

authenticcreations

« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2016, 03:43 »
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It is like you put a Rocker at a Hip Hop competition with hip hop fans. It doesnt matter how good the Rocker performs in his Rock world he will never win the Hip Hop competition.

Mirco

 :D :D

Run DMC and Aerosmith combo might do ok!

« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2016, 08:23 »
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In the meantime Alamy ratings keep growing..
How I wish it was because of me (sigh)   :-\

« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2016, 08:45 »
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I had to close my Alamy account since I had 4 small sales from 1 Jan 2015 :| (contributing from 2009 with a portfolio of 6k+ images/illustrations only).
So I'm not sure how accurate are those ratings ... maybe the sales are better for other contributors but for me it was a big fail.

« Reply #57 on: March 10, 2016, 11:23 »
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I had a $250 sale pop up this morning. It's a new photo that I uploaded in October. On Alamy images don't usually get licensed on day one - it was "zoomed" a month ago and that same search term (it's a rare one - there are only 41 images on Alamy - 6 of them mine) was searched for back in September because an image I took in 2007 was zoomed then, which is why when I took a trip to shoot stock I made sure to go back and get newer photos of that obscure travel location. So someone was looking for a very specific image - and they kept looking and found what they wanted several months later. I think the mindset of the average Alamy customer is different - they are more traditional photo researchers/buyers rather than small businesses, bloggers, web news outlets looking for a quick inexpensive image to put online - though there are many of those buyers on Alamy too. I wouldn't put an image like that on the micros since I know someone will pay more for it. (There are 9 of the same subject on SS).

Though my primary photography income is from assignments, I've been with both Alamy and SS since 2009 and while I have small portfolios on each, I get regular sales on both (for the most part 1-4 monthly on Alamy and daily on SS) so I'm very aware of the differences between the two - Alamy requires more patience but the payoff can be much greater.

Being there also means not uploading some images which might do quite well on the micros to them, and instead putting them on places like Alamy and 500px, hoping the better prices will make it worth the choice. That's sometimes been a tough decision for me - will an image be downloaded hundreds of times on the micros so I should put it there rather than wait for one license on Alamy to make me as much? I've seen zooms of images I have RF on both get licensed from micros so it is a risk. Since I license RM and RF images directly to magazines and calendars and others, for me, putting them on Alamy rather than the micros also has other benefits, since I can charge traditional licensing fees. Selling direct at micro prices seems impossible to me.

Both types of agencies - midstock/traditional and micro - have their similarities and differences and their pros and cons. Just don't expect your experience on Alamy to be the same as your experience at FT or SS. I'd give it two years before deciding if it is worth the effort. That's when most people I know there (me included) started seeing regular sales rather than just the occasional one.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2016, 11:27 by wordplanet »

« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2016, 11:35 »
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For me Alamy sales are increasing more and more and I'm happy about it, because I feel that my work is valued there, besides not having images denied, for illogical reasons, like on the Shutterstock and iStock.  ;D

« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2016, 11:52 »
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I had to close my Alamy account since I had 4 small sales from 1 Jan 2015 :| (contributing from 2009 with a portfolio of 6k+ images/illustrations only).
So I'm not sure how accurate are those ratings ... maybe the sales are better for other contributors but for me it was a big fail.
You must of been doing something wrong with the keywords to sell that little.  I don't think they are great with illustrations but I only have around 100 and get regular sales with them.

authenticcreations

« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2016, 14:18 »
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I have to add that there are things happening that matches this climb in the ranks. For example in the same speed Alamy is climbing the Alexa ranking. Few months ago it was position 14000 in the USA and it shows now 7500.

Then in the Alamy forum under the results thread the reportings of 240$, 330$ are going like a train. Even a 1000k and 2000k between them. All in the last two months.

Something is for sure happening..... what exactly i can not tell. I only know that they are doing thing right.


« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2016, 15:31 »
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Or is it just fake? Someone tries to boost the number?

Yes, same for Envato.

« Reply #62 on: March 10, 2016, 15:33 »
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I had to close my Alamy account since I had 4 small sales from 1 Jan 2015 :| (contributing from 2009 with a portfolio of 6k+ images/illustrations only).
So I'm not sure how accurate are those ratings ... maybe the sales are better for other contributors but for me it was a big fail.
You must of been doing something wrong with the keywords to sell that little.  I don't think they are great with illustrations but I only have around 100 and get regular sales with them.

I was wondering about that. I have mass uploaded my images so I didn't pay attention to the whole "essential"/"main"/"comprehensive" keywords thing. Would that make a difference or is it a waste of time?

« Reply #63 on: March 10, 2016, 17:14 »
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I had to close my Alamy account since I had 4 small sales from 1 Jan 2015 :| (contributing from 2009 with a portfolio of 6k+ images/illustrations only).
So I'm not sure how accurate are those ratings ... maybe the sales are better for other contributors but for me it was a big fail.
You must of been doing something wrong with the keywords to sell that little.  I don't think they are great with illustrations but I only have around 100 and get regular sales with them.

I was wondering about that. I have mass uploaded my images so I didn't pay attention to the whole "essential"/"main"/"comprehensive" keywords thing. Would that make a difference or is it a waste of time?
I think it makes a big difference, at least get the most relevant keywords in the Essential keywords box.

authenticcreations

« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2016, 00:28 »
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Lets say it even better... It makes all the difference. It is almost like not having any image online then. If you have a flower in the background and you put it to main a client that looks for flower doesnt want it in the background. He will not choose yours and you go down in ranking. The same for your other 5999 images and welcome to the sea bottom. Mirco

« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2016, 09:39 »
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I had a $250 sale pop up this morning. It's a new photo that I uploaded in October. On Alamy images don't usually get licensed on day one - it was "zoomed" a month ago and that same search term (it's a rare one - there are only 41 images on Alamy - 6 of them mine) was searched for back in September because an image I took in 2007 was zoomed then, which is why when I took a trip to shoot stock I made sure to go back and get newer photos of that obscure travel location. So someone was looking for a very specific image - and they kept looking and found what they wanted several months later. I think the mindset of the average Alamy customer is different - they are more traditional photo researchers/buyers rather than small businesses, bloggers, web news outlets looking for a quick inexpensive image to put online - though there are many of those buyers on Alamy too. I wouldn't put an image like that on the micros since I know someone will pay more for it. (There are 9 of the same subject on SS).

Your efforts to reshoot the place paid off in a nice way, well done! :D
But where can you check whether the image was "zoomed"? I checked my Alamy port but still don't get if it shows the "views" of my photos..

« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2016, 09:43 »
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Alamy/Alamy measures/Your images

« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2016, 09:57 »
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Alamy/Alamy measures/Your images

thanks!

« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2016, 14:37 »
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Your efforts to reshoot the place paid off in a nice way, well done! :D
But where can you check whether the image was "zoomed"? I checked my Alamy port but still don't get if it shows the "views" of my photos..

Thanks. I was happy to see it pay off.
When you go into Alamy Measures/Your Images you'll see numbers highlighted under the "Zooms" column and when you click on that number it shows you the photos that have been zoomed. You can also change the date parameters to see those you've missed. And when you click on each  pseudonym you can see the keywords that your images showed up for for all your views. Keep in mind that Alamy only tracks views and zooms for a certain set of customers, so you are probably getting more views and more zooms than are shown.
I often get sales on photos that weren't zoomed but it's helpful to see how your photos are doing in searches.

« Reply #69 on: March 11, 2016, 16:32 »
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Your efforts to reshoot the place paid off in a nice way, well done! :D
But where can you check whether the image was "zoomed"? I checked my Alamy port but still don't get if it shows the "views" of my photos..

Thanks. I was happy to see it pay off.
When you go into Alamy Measures/Your Images you'll see numbers highlighted under the "Zooms" column and when you click on that number it shows you the photos that have been zoomed. You can also change the date parameters to see those you've missed. And when you click on each  pseudonym you can see the keywords that your images showed up for for all your views. Keep in mind that Alamy only tracks views and zooms for a certain set of customers, so you are probably getting more views and more zooms than are shown.
I often get sales on photos that weren't zoomed but it's helpful to see how your photos are doing in searches.


Thank you! By the way my only sale wasn't zoomed either ;)

PZF

« Reply #70 on: March 12, 2016, 15:16 »
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For me Al has collapsed this year.
Used to tick over......

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #71 on: March 13, 2016, 06:30 »
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My sales on Alamy are going up, but the rpi is nowadays very low, e.g. a sale to a German website this month earned me $1.28.So even if you're out of Novel Use and the UK newspaper scheme, you can still get very low sales. Still, the pic could have got 75c on iS.  :(

But as always, I can't submit my Alamy figures, as it would push my iS figures, which are still higher than Alamy, into indie iS out of exc. iS.
Is there any way that can be changed in the poll backend?

« Reply #72 on: March 13, 2016, 13:31 »
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I was under the impression that the poll kept IS as Exclusive if Alamy was the only other entry.

ShadySue

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« Reply #73 on: March 13, 2016, 13:40 »
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I was under the impression that the poll kept IS as Exclusive if Alamy was the only other entry.
At one point it wasn't (I'm pretty sure) but maybe it's been changed and I missed the announcement (?).
Is Leaf around to clarify?

Rinderart

« Reply #74 on: March 13, 2016, 14:07 »
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I all of a sudden Love these guys. Been there a Very Long Time and I gave up going through the upload process and had 500 or so I just didn't do..... well, A few weeks ago someone? did it for me and everything is in. Ya gotta love that.


 

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