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Author Topic: In terms of revenue is Shutterstock now a bigger agency than Istock?  (Read 11091 times)

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Leo Blanchette

« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2013, 18:52 »
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I always wondered about that!


PZF

« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2013, 02:58 »
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As an Indie (!) on just 16% (!) my RPD for July was just 76cents (!).  Plus they barely sell anything.
Only the dreaded PP (Photos for Peanuts Programme?) gets me any sales so I'm gradually abandoning IS which I am sure is what they want....
P+ served me well during its brief life.....!

shudderstok

« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2013, 03:24 »
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How are those numbers to the right generated anyway?

Shutterstock
74.9 arrow
iStock
  exclusive
29 arrow
  347.5
Fotolia
26.7 arrow
Dreamstime
16.9 arrow

There is a constant of $500, the numbers on the right are a percentage of that.  It is determined by what contributors enter into the poll and divided by the number of people who entered a number for that site.  75 means the average contributor who answered the poll for Shutterstock made about $375 (it's not exact because the numbers we enter into the poll aren't exact numbers).  I think it's also a running average of the last two months but don't quote me on that one.  The exclusive number means 347.5% of $500 or $1737.50.


and me thinks that the exclusive amount for IS is also not accurate as it tops out at $2500+ if it kept going up in increments to a higher point then me thinks the actual rate would be much higher than 347.5%
- for the month of july for example it would have been closer to 675.5% for me and i'd be willing to bet i am not the only one, and that is during the summer slowdown as well, and also does not include the getty sales that report later.


ShadySue

« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2013, 04:57 »
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- for the month of july for example it would have been closer to 675.5% for me and i'd be willing to bet i am not the only one, and that is during the summer slowdown as well, and also does not include the getty sales that report later.
The poll isn't a percentage.

NB, I kept my Alamy figures out this week, even though it was in a higher bracket than the last few months, so that my iS figures would go in the exclusive figures rather than indie.

« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2013, 09:27 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 11:29 by Audi 5000 »

ShadySue

« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2013, 14:20 »
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- for the month of july for example it would have been closer to 675.5% for me and i'd be willing to bet i am not the only one, and that is during the summer slowdown as well, and also does not include the getty sales that report later.
The poll isn't a percentage.

NB, I kept my Alamy figures out this week, even though it was in a higher bracket than the last few months, so that my iS figures would go in the exclusive figures rather than indie.
It is a percentage of $500.
Too bad, then. I'm arithmetically challenged and the total is well over 500.
Also, we don't know any of the other variables. For example, since the figures for Alamy started, I've been counting in the iS indie column, which is wrong. This month to keep me in the exc. column, I didn't post an Alamy sum, which is also wrong.

Here's where it's explained, though I don't pretend to understand it.

Bottom line is, it's just a bit of fun. We don't even know how many people post.


« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2013, 15:25 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 11:28 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2013, 15:34 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 11:28 by Audi 5000 »

ShadySue

« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2013, 15:43 »
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I forgot to put in the reference for anyone who hasn't seen it.
http://www.microstockgroup.com/site-related/why-is-the-shutterstock-ranking-not-100-anymore

« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2013, 17:47 »
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There is no istock, it's just part of Getty.  I think trying to work out what revenue istock makes when its so intertwined with Getty is a waste of time.  Don't think there's any doubt that Getty is bigger than SS but that leaves room for SS to grow.


I agree, they are one in the same.

http://www.stockmarketstudy.org/wordpress/tag/sstk/page/2/

Snip SSTK Questions/Answers

So our strategy is really volume leadership

Ross Sandler Deutsche Bank

Would you talk about that for a sec, the landscape because weve taken a lot of questions about it, as the IPO was happening in the sense, but you guys are now officially that the largest online royalty free inventory business out there. How would you characterize the competitive landscape today versus maybe a year ago, between a few of those bigger guys that you just mentioned and some of the smaller? Which are you more focused on if at all?

Thilo Semmelbauer

So our strategy is really volume leadership and Ross, youre quite right that in volume terms, we delivered more downloads, paid downloads last year than all of Getty combined.

And Getty is certainly continues to be the revenue leader in this space. If Getty is sort of in the $800 million to $1 billion revenue range, we think the market is somewhere in the $4 billion to $6 billion range, just for stock imagery.

And given our size, $170 million last year were really still a very small player in a large and growing market, and we see opportunity for several big players continuing to dominate in the market. So and obviously we want to be one of them.

In terms of changes in competitive dynamics, Id say in the last year, not significant changes. Getty continues to be a big player. Numbers of years ago they bought iStockPhoto. From everything we can tell, Getty is not growing but they continue to generate lot of cash. Its a strong business. There are always new players popping up and disappearing because as Tim mentioned barriers to entry are very low in this space but barriers to scale are high and were not really seeing were not seeing anybody else anywhere close to where we are.

« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2013, 02:02 »
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Interesting how the hedge fund managed to sell Getty for a nice profit when the share price was falling before they bought them and they don't seem to have growth.  What are the Carlyle Group going to do that previous owners haven't already tried?
« Last Edit: August 04, 2013, 02:31 by sharpshot »

« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2013, 09:16 »
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Interesting how the hedge fund managed to sell Getty for a nice profit when the share price was falling before they bought them and they don't seem to have growth.  What are the Carlyle Group going to do that previous owners haven't already tried?

Interesting point
« Last Edit: August 05, 2013, 09:36 by gbalex »


 

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