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« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2015, 12:10 »
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$150 an hour would be money well spent I reckon. :)


The OP wanders in here, and asks for opinions on a PF which is from "A team of professional photographers and graphic designers" according to the blurb on the site where the PF is. Also states that he / she / they intend to upload 500 images a month to all agencies.


Now this isn't some newbie trying to make a few dollars, and willing to learn about the game. This is a professional team, who, let's admit it, should understand the business and (particularly in the case of graphic designers) know what sells at the moment.


In short the competition doing their market research.

You are 100% right  ;) but we have been doing freelancing from last 5 years with clients from USA, UK & Canda, this is first time we are trying to dive into the world of stock photos so wanted your opinion about the initial few photos we uploaded.
Fair enough. It's not as if you are trying to hide who you are. :)
I reckon you already have the answer above, and what to do about it. Use what you have that is unique to you locally.



« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2015, 12:52 »
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Now this isn't some newbie trying to make a few dollars, and willing to learn about the game. This is a professional team, who, let's admit it, should understand the business and (particularly in the case of graphic designers) know what sells at the moment.

Looking at the cheap quality and copycat images (can I say plagiarism?), I wouldn't say they're professional. More like a team of amateurs trying to make a quick buck, but who have no genuine creativity to come up with something truly original.

« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2015, 13:01 »
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Anticipate the sales...

If I could do that, I'd already be a stock photo millionaire.  I am consistently amazed at what sells in this business.  What I consider to be one of the worst medical stock photos ever....poor lighting, bad composition, and one of the first med photos I ever attempted....is also my number 1 seller.  Go figure.

« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2015, 16:06 »
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Thank you for all for feedback but really not sure how you found it copy of anything. I can show you more than 1000 same composition images but that really not mean copy.....

Here is the latest batch on fotolia: https://us.fotolia.com/p/205687351

« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2015, 16:39 »
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dated and gimmicky

Shelma1

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« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2015, 16:47 »
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Anticipate the sales...

If I could do that, I'd already be a stock photo millionaire.  I am consistently amazed at what sells in this business.  What I consider to be one of the worst medical stock photos ever....poor lighting, bad composition, and one of the first med photos I ever attempted....is also my number 1 seller.  Go figure.

Same here. I have an image I almost didn't bother uploading that's by far my best seller, and even now after being on the site for years it sells every day, sometimes 5 or 6 times a day. I would think everyone who was going to download it would have downloaded it by now, but I guess not.

« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2015, 21:36 »
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I agree with the comments from Jo An Snover.....  but as far as others saying your photos being copycats of millions of others already for sale I'd say no more copycats than the crap that people keep posting on wood backgrounds and such.  And they never stop; you'll find Halloween, Christmas, Mardi Gras, lights, candles and the list goes on and on.... all on various wooden backgrounds of different shades and colors... You can get some of the fake wood (wallpaper samples) from Home Depot online in the wallpaper section and get free shipping to get you started.  Just saying you may as well get your share of that pie too, just like the other 30 million contributors.

« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2015, 22:51 »
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K, that's not very nice ;) .

« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2015, 17:46 »
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.....  but as far as others saying your photos being copycats of millions of others already for sale I'd say no more copycats than the crap that people keep posting on wood backgrounds and such.  And they never stop; you'll find Halloween, Christmas, Mardi Gras, lights, candles and the list goes on and on.... all on various wooden backgrounds of different shades and colors... You can get some of the fake wood (wallpaper samples) from Home Depot online in the wallpaper section and get free shipping to get you started.  Just saying you may as well get your share of that pie too, just like the other 30 million contributors.

the point is you're not going to make $ by copying for what's already an oversaturated market -- yet another reason why it's hopeless to predict what a given few hundred images will earn

Hongover

« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2015, 19:22 »
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Don't let some of these guys bring you down. It's a tough market and you need to find your identity. There's no better way to find out than to start uploading.

You'll learn your lessons and you'll become better at it. You find out what sells and what doesn't. I can see a few of your images selling decently with the right keywords.

If I ask people about my own portfolio, I may get some similar responses, but I'm probably doing better than many contributors. Just start uploading and understand your market.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2015, 19:24 by Hongover »

« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2015, 22:41 »
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Sean,  just frustrated that I don't seem to find a way to make it worth my while money wise to do any stock photography.  You can't hire models these days to produce a decent shoot because it takes too darn long to get the money back to cover the cost of the shoot, and that's IF you are lucky enough to make it all back.  On a better note though, I was finally able to get total control of the language learning company, and looking to go ahead with versions for Iphone, Ipad, Android and Windows, as well as possibly a web based version all done in XOJO.... and a youtube channel with some free video lessons as well, so I may be approaching you for a package deal for a whole bunch of photos.  Figured you'd do a lot better that way than getting the sub sale price on the site where I sell my photos.  Glad you got your several thousand stock shoots with models back in the day when it paid off.  At least newcomers with any brains won't try going after that piece of the pie, unless they feel like losing money :)

« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2015, 23:20 »
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Heck, anybody with young kids (aged 6 to 14 or so)  can ask who PewDiePie on youtube is if you like money.  He produces free videos on yt targeted at kids and his royalties from youtube last year were just over 4 million dollars.  I've got a buddy in STL that has about 125k subscribers and he makes a nice check every month too, but more like 1-3k per month...  maybe we're in the wrong business, but I imagine it is just a matter of time until Google (owner of yt) decides that video contributors will take much less for payouts rather than removing their videos and getting zero.

« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2015, 09:11 »
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500 images is very ambitious

« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2015, 13:35 »
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To update you all!
One of my photo is sold twice on fotolia today. I've earned 2.1 credits. Somebody please explain how much money I have actually earned?

Thank you all!
Tan

« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2015, 13:50 »
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I think for fotolia that's 2.1 dollars only.

« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2015, 14:19 »
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Isn't the fun of this uploading different types of things at first and seeing what sells and expanding upon those ideas, styles, etc>?

Rinderart

« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2015, 15:35 »
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To the OP...Yes your port is dated, so is mine and so is just about everyone here. In My time of selling and doing Images professionally Looooog before microstock I learned one thing.  NO ONE knows what will sell. NO ONE.At least no one i've ever met from the stock world to the fineart world. Your work is very reminiscent of 2003/2004/05 kinda stuff. Hell, Maybe that will come around again but in My honest view your in a uphill Battle.


"Being Unique" Being Unique is quite simple really all it means is try and forget what you think will sell "No one has that answer" concentrate on what turns you on as a artist or creative person, that is what will separate you from the pack and trust me, The buyers will find YOU.


I know for a fact there are 25 things that no one has shot 50 ft from where you are right now. Your job as an Image maker is to see them. anyone can do whats been done. The true talent is being original and unique and trying to escape that "BOX" we got ourselves into and one of the reasons I Paint, ....To escape and do something for me.

Give it a try.Loose the business guys shaking Hands or holding laptops type of work. It's not retro enough yet.
But, Hold on to it....LOL
I search and look at work constantly. I haven't seen anything fresh in a long time. thank goodness the Instagram,Faded Polaroid,Back Lit,bleached out Blurry Look is coming to an End.
Good Luck.

« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2015, 16:21 »
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I know for a fact there are 25 things that no one has shot 50 ft from where you are right now.

how true  ;D no not joking. a colleague has the best sales after giving up on food, people, animals..on white background. she got drunk one day and took shots of her toes, pimples, cankers, bald spot,etc..
even toiletry and specimen her doctor wanted for prostate cancer checkup.

she got more earnings from shooting herself literally.  hubby said she would have taken a shot of her post natal incision marks from having babies, but she is too discreet for that. i am sure that is a rare shot too which could get EL from medical book usage

« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2015, 16:24 »
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furthermore, take a look at the most seen ads on social medias.  floppy tummy, celulite, wrinkle,.. before and after.  need we say more. most of these i am sure came from microstock.

Hongover

« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2015, 16:57 »
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Sometimes people mistaken artistic value for commercial value. His portfolio has little artistic value, but has more commercial value than a portfolio filled with landscapes.

We have to think more about what kind of companies have subscriber accounts. Design/advertising firms, healthcare/medical companies, software development firms out of India with American clients, supply companies, International trading, food processing companies, financial firms, technology/software companies, news outlets etc.

That's why landscape/nature photography isn't as profitable as they used to be. They aim to be everything yet, not specific enough to fit into any category well and there's are simple too much of it out there. Sometimes, non-artistic images are best sellers.

« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2015, 17:07 »
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hey, you must take all these not to nice comments with a grain of salt.
just go to ss forum and look at those "my latest download" threads and you will see that all those
whoopy yea sales images are even more crappy and same old same old.

fact is, there are lots of ppl uploading the same old same old stuff even after having 6 digit numbers to their portfolio . unfortunately, boring is what keep microstock alive.

then again what do you expect for pennies per download.
just don't pay too much for a model or rent a studio, because you will never recover that outlay
unless you also have tons of same old same old. it's all a numbers game, nothing to do with
good photography, these days.

get a chimp , set the PNS to high multiple frame shooting mode,
and then submit them . you probably get past the robot-reviewer.
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  ... but seriously... you never can tell with microstock

KB

« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2015, 17:14 »
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even toiletry and specimen her doctor wanted for prostate cancer checkup.
Unless she's a transgender, that would be most unusual.  :o  ::)  ;D

ShadySue

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« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2015, 18:42 »
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I know for a fact there are 25 things that no one has shot 50 ft from where you are right now. Your job as an Image maker is to see them. anyone can do whats been done. The true talent is being original and unique and trying to escape that "BOX" we got ourselves into .
You can have any number of unique subjects, but that's no good on the micros unless they attract multiple buyers. The true talent would be to see what is unique and which there is a market for.

« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2015, 21:13 »
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even toiletry and specimen her doctor wanted for prostate cancer checkup.
Unless she's a transgender, that would be most unusual.  :o  ::)  ;D

oops, LMAO, sorry, whatever those things the OBGYN do. you can tell i am no medical genius...
i didn't even laugh when jack nicholson said this city needs an enema.
i thought he meant an enemy... so i said, so what's so funny about that  ;D ;D ;D

« Reply #49 on: August 10, 2015, 15:30 »
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To Update you all,
I've now manged to upload 132 vector, photos on my Port so please go through my work again & give me an estimate of sale per day.

The link: https://www.fotolia.com/p/205687351

Thank you!


 

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