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Title: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: Carl on August 02, 2011, 07:21
This photo was rejected at SS ("Poor Lighting--Poor or uneven lighting, or shadows. White balance may be incorrect."):

(http://static6.depositphotos.com/1032122/624/i/110/depositphotos_6243922-Beautiful-Blonde-with-Marker-3.jpg)

But I add a simple graphic to the same photo, without any additional modification whatsoever, and it gets approved (submitted in the same batch):

(http://thumb9.shutterstock.com/thumb_large/130012/130012,1312064304,1/stock-photo-a-lovely-young-blonde-with-a-large-marker-isolated-on-white-background-drawing-a-spoke-like-81932830.jpg)

It sold within hours.  On DT, however, both are rejected, with the usual list of possible reasons (pick a reason, any reason...).  I had to chuckle...   :P
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: ShadySue on August 02, 2011, 07:33
You've gotta keep your sense of humour - congrats.
This 'inconsistency' has been going on for far longer than microl.
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: Druid on August 02, 2011, 07:46
You do have to laugh....I can understand when they tell you they don't want your image because it does not have a commercial value to them, but when they tell you it has technical issues when its already accepted and sold elsewhere....... its a joke.
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on August 02, 2011, 07:49
Borderline images always can go either way.  People aren't robots.
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: TheSmilingAssassin on August 02, 2011, 08:25
@csproductions, that's hilarious!


Borderline images always can go either way.  People aren't robots.

They were in the same batch so unless this reviewer has a serious case of dimentia, it has nothing to do with being 'borderline'.  Either both images have poor lighting or both don't.
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: Microstock Posts on August 02, 2011, 10:31
@csproductions, that's hilarious!


Borderline images always can go either way.  People aren't robots.

They were in the same batch so unless this reviewer has a serious case of dimentia, it has nothing to do with being 'borderline'.  Either both images have poor lighting or both don't.

One reviewer thinks it has poor lighting, the other doesn't. It's so often just luck of the draw and not just with ss.
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: lisafx on August 02, 2011, 11:26
Considering they were in the same batch, it's hard to make the case it was separate reviewers. 

Most likely the reviewer hit the wrong rejection reason button.  Maybe they thought it was not commercial enough without the graphic??
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: heywoody on August 02, 2011, 11:32
Considering they were in the same batch, it's hard to make the case it was separate reviewers. 

Most likely the reviewer hit the wrong rejection reason button.  Maybe they thought it was not commercial enough without the graphic??

Either that or decided why have 2 of the same thing and the one with the graphic is more marketable.  I think the wrong button is often pressed and usually the lighting button.  I had the same thing, involving an isolated version version of a rejected picture - the truth is the background on the non-isolated version was pure crap.
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on August 02, 2011, 13:36
I don't know how other sites work or what 'same batch' means there, but I could upload 20 in a row, and they could be picked up by different people.
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: lisafx on August 02, 2011, 13:55
I don't know how other sites work or what 'same batch' means there, but I could upload 20 in a row, and they could be picked up by different people.

At Shutterstock images are uploaded in batches or groups, rather than piecemeal, and submitted all together.  Each batch is reviewed at the same time, by presumably the same person.  Doesn't work the same as it does on Istock. 
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on August 02, 2011, 14:30
Okey dokey.
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: Freedom on August 02, 2011, 14:35
I have the same experience at iStock. I submitted two photos which were shot within a few seconds in the same setting, except the model was laughing in one and serious in another. One was rejected for lighting and the other accepted.
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: Microstock Posts on August 02, 2011, 14:44
Okey dokey.

Okey dokey? Do they use that across the pond?
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: RacePhoto on August 18, 2011, 23:06
Borderline images always can go either way.  People aren't robots.

Here's an IS rejection. Borderline which way?  :D I always laugh at the either or rejections or some with multiple reasons that contradict themselves.

The execution of isolation contains stray areas that are either too feathered or rough.

Or maybe both?
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: YadaYadaYada on August 26, 2011, 20:29
I have the same experience at iStock. I submitted two photos which were shot within a few seconds in the same setting, except the model was laughing in one and serious in another. One was rejected for lighting and the other accepted.

Which one? Is laughing more acceptable lighting because it's making light instead of dark frowning.
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: ShadySue on August 27, 2011, 12:09
Yesterday I had twelve acceptances and four rejections. The four rejections were all for "date must be in the correct format - month date year" (ONLY), yet all 16 had the format date month, year, as all my others have, and as Sirimo said in the opening Caption thread: "Date data might be 'month date year" or "date month year" or in rare circumstances where the specific date isn't known just "month year" - so that shouldn't even be a choosable rejection reason. I haven't had any unfair caption rejections for a while, so I don't know if that means I've somehow avoided the rogue inspector for ages or if there are new editorial inspectors coming on board (and not before time, but they need to read the stickies).
And for those who care: this is more than a whine, it's a SCREAM.
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: flotsom on January 02, 2013, 16:42
I had one rejected for just about every reason possible, it was an object isolated on white. Accepted in the same batch was the exact same photo that I'd flipped into portrait orientation  ;D
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: gillian vann on January 02, 2013, 17:11
why can't they just say, "look, we hate it and frankly, you can do better"
or maybe a bit softer " we're just not that into it"
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: Poncke on January 02, 2013, 18:18
I had one rejected for just about every reason possible, it was an object isolated on white. Accepted in the same batch was the exact same photo that I'd flipped into portrait orientation  ;D
So why would they accept two if its an isolation? If they have one, they have all they need since the image can be lifted out. And anyone can rotate in image.
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: Poncke on January 02, 2013, 18:19
why can't they just say, "look, we hate it and frankly, you can do better"
or maybe a bit softer " we're just not that into it"
FT does that.
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: gillian vann on January 02, 2013, 18:37
why can't they just say, "look, we hate it and frankly, you can do better"
or maybe a bit softer " we're just not that into it"
FT does that.

they say something about aesthetics, which is a bit insulting when their site is not up there in user-friendliness.

Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: Poncke on January 02, 2013, 18:49
why can't they just say, "look, we hate it and frankly, you can do better"
or maybe a bit softer " we're just not that into it"
FT does that.

they say something about aesthetics, which is a bit insulting when their site is not up there is user-friendliness.
No, they say something like, while your photo is great, we dont need it. Its not the aesthetic thing I am talking about.
Title: Re: Rejection Inconsistency - A Good Laugh
Post by: luissantos84 on January 02, 2013, 20:15
FT is really the worst in terms of explaining the rejection (DT too), pretty much they are making fun of us saying to look for the problem ourself, only prove their lack of respect for our work, yep I know there are millions of files and contributors, they will never care...